Urgent help needed: First-time small business owner filing taxes with no income but expenses
I'm in a weird spot and could use some advice. For years, my spouse and I have been strictly W2 employees filing our taxes without any issues. Then in late 2024, a former client from my regular job approached me about doing some consulting work. We were super excited about this opportunity, so I went ahead and formed an S-Corp online, splitting ownership between me (51%) and my spouse (49%). I was so confident this was going to work out that I flew out twice to meet with this client in another state. Racked up quite a few expenses for travel, meals, and some initial business setup costs. Well, long story short - the client kept pushing back the start date and eventually canceled the whole thing. They've been apologetic and keep saying they'll have work for me "soon" but I'm not holding my breath. My problem now is taxes. We started this S-Corp in October 2024, spent a decent chunk of money (probably around $3,200 in total expenses), but literally made $0 in income. Do I still need to file business taxes to claim these losses? How do I even go about that? I've always used TurboTax for our personal returns which are pretty basic, but their business filing options seem really expensive. Is there a more affordable option for filing business taxes? Or can I skip filing altogether since I didn't actually earn any income? Really appreciate any guidance here!
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Olivia Martinez
You absolutely need to file for your S-Corp even with no revenue. Here's why this actually works in your favor: The S-Corp is a pass-through entity, so those business losses can flow through to your personal tax return and potentially offset other income you and your spouse earned from your W2 jobs. This could lower your overall tax bill. For the S-Corp itself, you'll need to file Form 1120-S, which is the S-Corporation tax return. You'll also need to file Schedule K-1 which reports your share of the business income/losses. Since you split ownership with your spouse, you'll each get a K-1 showing your respective portions of the loss. The expenses you described (travel to meet clients, etc.) sound like legitimate business expenses since you had a genuine profit motive. Keep all receipts and documentation of these expenses in case of questions later. As for software, TurboTax's business options are indeed pricey. You might want to check out FreeTaxUSA or TaxAct, which tend to be more affordable for business filings. Another option is to hire a CPA just for this first year - they can set everything up correctly and teach you how to handle it yourself in future years.
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Charlie Yang
•Thanks for the info. Quick question - do you know when the deadline is for filing the S-Corp tax return? Is it the same as personal taxes (April 15) or is it different? Also, am I going to need to file in multiple states since I traveled to another state for the business meetings?
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Olivia Martinez
•The deadline for filing Form 1120-S for S-Corporations is March 15, 2025, which is a month earlier than personal returns. Mark that date on your calendar because the penalties for late filing can be steep - $210 per month per shareholder for each month it's late. You likely don't need to file in multiple states just because you traveled there for meetings. You typically only need to file in states where you have nexus, which usually means having employees, property, or regularly conducting business there. Just traveling for meetings doesn't generally create nexus, but rules vary by state. Since you didn't actually generate any income, it's even less likely you'd need to file in the other state.
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Grace Patel
After reading your situation, I had almost the exact same thing happen to me last year. I started an LLC (not S-Corp, but similar issues) and had about $5k in startup costs before my main client backed out. I was completely lost with taxes. I tried using TurboTax at first but kept getting confused with all the business sections. Then a friend recommended I check out https://taxr.ai which was honestly a game changer for my situation. You can upload your receipts and expenses, and it helps organize everything properly for tax purposes. I was especially confused about which expenses were deductible since I hadn't made any income yet, but their system helped categorize everything correctly. For example, it knew that my travel expenses to meet clients counted as valid business expenses even without revenue.
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ApolloJackson
•Does taxr.ai handle S-Corps specifically? I've used other tax software before but they always seemed confused by S-Corp status and pass-through income. Also, can it help determine if business travel is legitimate without actual income?
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Isabella Russo
•I'm a bit skeptical about these online services. How much does it cost and is it really better than just hiring a local CPA who specializes in small businesses? Especially for someone who's just starting out with a business entity.
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Grace Patel
•Yes, taxr.ai definitely handles S-Corps. That's one of its strengths actually - it's designed to work with all business entities including partnerships, LLCs, and S-Corps. It correctly handles the pass-through nature of these businesses and helps you prepare the proper forms including 1120-S and K-1s. The service is particularly good at helping new business owners determine which expenses are legitimate. For your situation with business travel without income, it asks you questions about the business purpose of the trip to establish that there was a genuine profit motive, which is what the IRS looks for. It's much more affordable than most CPAs, though I don't want to quote an exact price since they have different packages depending on your needs.
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ApolloJackson
I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after our conversation here. I was initially concerned because my situation felt unusual, but I decided to give it a try anyway. It actually worked out great! The system walked me through all my business expenses and helped me properly document them even though I hadn't generated any revenue. I was especially impressed with how it handled the S-Corp pass-through loss situation. The software guided me through how these losses would flow to my personal return and potentially offset other income. The receipt scanning feature saved me tons of time - I just uploaded photos of all my travel receipts and it categorized them automatically. The final forms were ready for filing, including the 1120-S and K-1s for both me and my spouse with our ownership percentages correctly reflected. Definitely using it again next year, hopefully with some actual income to report!
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Rajiv Kumar
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is how frustrating it can be to get actual help from the IRS when you have S-Corp questions. I spent HOURS on hold trying to get answers about my similar situation last year. If you need to speak with an actual IRS representative about your S-Corp issues (which I recommend for first-time business filers), use https://claimyr.com - they'll wait on hold with the IRS for you and call you when an agent is on the line. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I initially had a ton of questions about handling business losses without income that couldn't be answered through basic research, and actually talking to an IRS agent cleared everything up for me. Saved me from making some pretty big mistakes on my first S-Corp filing.
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Aria Washington
•Wait, so this service just sits on hold for you? How does that actually work? I've literally wasted entire days on hold with the IRS trying to figure out business tax stuff.
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Isabella Russo
•This sounds too good to be true. The IRS wait times are legendary - sometimes 3+ hours. Are you seriously saying this service just waits on hold and then calls you when someone answers? I have a hard time believing this would work during peak tax season.
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Rajiv Kumar
•The service works exactly as advertised - they have a system that waits on hold with the IRS for you. When you sign up, you explain what department you need to reach and provide your phone number. Their system then calls the IRS and navigates the phone tree to get to the right department. It absolutely works during peak tax season - that's actually when I used it last year in March. I got a call back about 2.5 hours later when they had an actual IRS agent on the line. It saved me from sitting by my phone all day. When they called, I was already connected to an IRS representative and could immediately start asking my questions about S-Corp loss reporting.
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Isabella Russo
I need to eat my words about being skeptical of Claimyr. After our discussion, I decided to try it yesterday because I had some questions about my S-Corp filing that I couldn't find clear answers to online. I expected it wouldn't work or would take days to get through during this busy season, but I was completely wrong. I submitted my request around 9am, went about my day, and got a call around 11:45am with an actual IRS tax specialist on the line! I was honestly shocked. The agent answered all my questions about handling business expenses without income and confirmed exactly how to report everything on both my 1120-S and personal return. They even explained some nuances about business travel expenses that I wouldn't have understood otherwise. For anyone in a similar situation as the original poster - this service is legitimately worth it during tax season. I'm usually skeptical about these things but had to come back and share my experience.
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Liam O'Reilly
One important thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're keeping track of your basis in the S-Corp. Since you've put money into the business (for travel and other expenses) but haven't taken any out, you're increasing your basis. This matters because your ability to deduct losses on your personal return is limited to your basis in the S-Corp. Sounds like you're well under any limitation issues since it's just some initial expenses, but it's good to track from the beginning. Also, if you plan to continue the S-Corp, remember you'll need to file annual reports with your state to keep the entity active, which usually costs $50-150 depending on your state. Not filing these can cause your S-Corp to be administratively dissolved.
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Lucas Kowalski
•Can you explain more about this "basis" thing? I've never heard of that before. Is that something I need to calculate, or does the tax software handle it? I spent about $3,200 out of pocket for this business that never got off the ground.
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Liam O'Reilly
•Your basis is essentially your investment in the company. When you contributed money to pay for those business expenses, you increased your basis. If the S-Corp takes out a loan that you personally guarantee, that can also increase your basis. The $3,200 you spent becomes part of your basis calculation. Most tax software will help you track this, but you should keep your own records too. Since your losses are around $3,200, and your basis is also around $3,200, you should be able to deduct the full loss on your personal return. What's important is maintaining these records going forward. If you invest more money or if the business eventually becomes profitable, your basis will change. If you try to deduct losses that exceed your basis, that's when you can run into issues with the IRS.
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Chloe Delgado
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that since you never actually conducted business (no income at all), you might be able to deduct these as startup expenses on your personal return instead of dealing with all the S-Corp headaches. IRS Publication 535 covers business startup costs, and you can deduct up to $5,000 in the first year. Might be simpler than filing a whole corporate return for just some travel expenses.
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Ava Harris
•This is incorrect advice. Once they formed the S-Corp, they need to file as an S-Corp. The startup costs would be claimed on the S-Corp return, not their personal return directly. The S-Corp loss then flows through to their personal return via the K-1. If they had incurred the expenses before forming the business entity, your advice might apply, but not in this case.
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Jacob Lee
I just went through this exact situation last year. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. File the 1120-S for your S-Corp (due March 15) 2. Report the expenses as business losses 3. Those losses will flow through to your personal return via K-1 4. For affordable filing, check out TaxHawk - I paid about $45 for my S-Corp return One other thing to consider - since you never actually did business, you might want to formally dissolve the S-Corp to avoid ongoing filing requirements and fees in future years. Otherwise, you'll need to file annual reports with your state and tax returns every year even if the business remains dormant.
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