Facing $40k+ in tax problems - would fixing retroactive payroll for S corp be cheaper?
I'm trying to get a rough idea of how much it'll cost me to file 3.5 years of retroactive payroll for my S corp. This whole situation is a complete nightmare and I'm stressing hard about it. Here's the mess I'm in: Back in 2020, my CPA recommended I could save money by making an S election for my LLC. We proceeded with that plan - for my 2020 taxes. The 1120S he filed had the S election box checked and listed 1/1/2020 as the effective date. I filed my 2021 and 2022 personal and business taxes without any issues - everything seemed fine. (Haven't filed 2023 yet - got an extension.) Well, after not getting my expected corporate tax refund, I called the IRS to check on it. That's when I discovered: 1. My CPA never actually filed Form 2553 (Election by a Small Business Corporation) 2. The IRS has zero record of my corporation because there was no 2553 filed 3. The IRS apparently has no record of any corporate tax returns being filed - seems like without the 2553 to match them to, they just vanished somewhere?? I had NO CLUE about this problem - every year I'd get confirmation that my taxes were e-filed successfully. I have copies of all the filings. Never got any letters or notices from the IRS. Nothing indicated there was an issue. Now I'm looking at two options: Option 1: Amend my taxes to reflect my business as the single-member LLC (Schedule C) that I apparently still am according to the IRS, despite thinking I was an S corp for the last 3.5 years. Option 2: Try to fix the S corp election issue and file retroactive payroll...
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Nadia Zaldivar
This is definitely a stressful situation, but there are ways to address it. Let me break this down for you. First, the IRS does have procedures for late S corporation elections under Revenue Procedure 2013-30. You might be able to file a late 2553 with a reasonable cause statement explaining why it wasn't filed timely. They're often understanding when the issue was due to CPA error and you reasonably believed everything was properly filed. As for your options, amending to Schedule C returns would likely result in higher self-employment taxes for those years. The retroactive payroll approach would involve filing all missing 941s quarterly payroll reports, W-2s, possibly 940s, and paying the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes, plus potential penalties and interest. Before deciding, I'd recommend getting quotes from a few payroll companies about handling the retroactive filings. Make sure they can help with abatement requests for penalties too. The reasonable compensation amount you'd need to report would significantly impact the total cost.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•Thanks for the detailed response. What kind of penalties am I looking at for the late payroll filings? And do you think I have any case against the CPA for messing this up? It's their error that got me into this mess.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•For late payroll tax penalties, you're typically looking at a failure-to-file penalty of 5% per month up to 25% of the unpaid tax amount, plus failure-to-pay penalties of 0.5% per month up to 25%, and interest on the unpaid amounts. However, the IRS often grants penalty abatement under their First Time Abatement policy if you have a clean compliance history, especially when there's reasonable cause like relying on a professional's advice. Regarding the CPA, you absolutely have grounds for a complaint. The CPA failed to perform a fundamental task after advising the S corporation election. Consider filing a complaint with your state's board of accountancy and possibly consulting with an attorney about recovering any damages you incur from fixing this situation. Many CPAs carry professional liability insurance for exactly these scenarios, and a formal letter from an attorney often motivates them to cover the costs of rectifying their error.
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Ev Luca
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Avery Davis
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Ev Luca
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Avery Davis
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Marcelle Drum
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Tate Jensen
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Adaline Wong
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Gabriel Ruiz
Don't forget about state tax implications too! I went through something similar in California and while I was fixing the federal issues, I completely missed that I also needed to address the state filings. Ended up with a whole second headache. Make sure whatever solution you choose, you're addressing both federal AND state requirements. Each state has different rules about conforming to federal S-corp elections.
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Rajan Walker
•Oh man, I hadn't even thought about the state implications. I'm in Illinois - do you know if they automatically recognize the federal S-corp election or do I need to file something separate with them too?
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Illinois does generally conform to federal S-corp elections, but they still require their own notification. You need to file Form IL-1120-ST with the Illinois Department of Revenue, and they technically want you to submit this within 60 days of your federal election. Since your federal election is going to be retroactive, you should contact the Illinois Department of Revenue specifically about your situation. They may require you to file a separate late election acceptance for state purposes. Unlike some states that automatically accept the federal election, Illinois wants to be formally notified, even though they typically follow the federal tax treatment.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
Make sure to get a new CPA! I had a similar situation where my accountant messed up my S-corp election. I went through 3 different accountants before finding someone who actually knew how to handle the correction properly. Look for someone who specifically has experience with entity election corrections and IRS abatement requests. A good CPA will know exactly what documentation to prepare and what procedures to follow for your specific situation.
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Peyton Clarke
•Any recommendations for finding a CPA who specializes in fixing these kinds of messes? I've been looking but everyone I talk to seems to have a different opinion on how to handle it.
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