Help with SCorp/1120 Filing Issues - S Corp Election Not Recognized by IRS
I'm in a really tricky situation with a small business entity and could use some advice. Back in 2019, I formed a corporation and submitted the election form to be treated as an S Corporation. In early 2020, I filed Form 1120-S for the 2019 tax year and it was electronically accepted by the IRS, which I took as confirmation that our S Corp status was approved. Fast forward to last week when I tried to e-file our 1120-S for 2022, and it was rejected with a message saying the wrong form was being used for this entity. I called the e-file support desk, and was told that we're actually classified as a C Corporation in their system and our S Corp election was never approved. When I explained that we never received any notices about this and our previous 1120-S was accepted, the agent told me something surprising - apparently first-year business returns are generally accepted electronically even if they're the wrong form type! The agent recommended I submit another form requesting S Corp status and ask for it to be backdated to 2019, explaining the situation. She also suggested including paper copies of the 1120-S forms I filed for the past years. I sent all this about 3 weeks ago. Now I'm not sure if I should: 1) Go ahead and file Form 1120-C before the deadline 2) Wait for a response from the IRS (which could take months) 3) File an 1120-C for 2019 (but I'm worried about late filing penalties) 4) Just get a completely new tax ID and start fresh Additional info: - There are two shareholders with 50% ownership each - Both shareholders claimed K-1s from an S Corp on their personal returns - The business reported losses for both years (so failure to file penalty might be around $450 for 2019 if I file 1120-C now) I'm a bookkeeper handling this for clients, not my own business. What would you do in this situation?
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Lucas Turner
This is actually a pretty common issue with S Corporation elections. The IRS doesn't always send confirmation when they approve S Corp status, and the electronic acceptance of a return doesn't necessarily mean they've processed and approved the election. First, don't panic. You've taken good steps already by submitting a new election request with backdating. The IRS is generally understanding with these situations, especially when you've been consistently filing as an S Corp and the shareholders have been reporting accordingly. I wouldn't recommend getting a new tax ID - that creates more problems than it solves and doesn't address the existing issue. Starting fresh doesn't erase past filing obligations. Your best approach is probably to wait a bit longer for the IRS response to your backdating request. However, since you're approaching a deadline, you might want to file Form 1120-C by the due date (with an extension if needed) to avoid any potential late filing penalties, then amend later if your S Corp status is approved retroactively. Also, double-check that the original S Corp election (Form 2553) was properly filed. Sometimes these forms get lost or misprocessed. If you have a copy with proof of mailing/delivery, that will help your case significantly.
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Lucas Turner
This is actually a pretty common issue with S Corporation elections. The IRS doesn't always send confirmation when they approve S Corp status, and the electronic acceptance of a return doesn't necessarily mean they've processed and approved the election. First, don't panic. You
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Kai Rivera
•So if they file the 1120-C now and the S Corp status ends up being backdated, would they need to amend the 1120-C returns later? And what about all the K-1s that were already issued to shareholders? Would they need to amend their personal returns too? This seems like such a mess.
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Lucas Turner
•Yes, if the S Corp election is approved with backdating, they would need to file a statement with the IRS indicating the 1120-C was filed as a protective measure only. The shareholders wouldn't necessarily need to amend their personal returns if the S Corp status is granted retroactively, since they've already reported consistently with S Corp treatment. Remember that the IRS generally wants to help taxpayers comply correctly. They're often reasonable when you've made good-faith efforts to comply, especially when there's no tax avoidance motive since the business reported losses anyway.
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Oliver Alexander
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Lara Woods
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Adrian Hughes
Just wanted to add something important about penalties that nobody's mentioned. If you end up having to file as a C-corp retroactively, make sure to request first-time penalty abatement! The IRS will often waive penalties if you have a clean compliance history (which it sounds like you do). IRS has something called "reasonable cause" relief too. Given that you filed what you thought was the correct form on time, and it was accepted electronically, you have a strong case for reasonable cause to eliminate any potential penalties. Just make sure to document everything, including dates of all your communications with the IRS. Also, consider filing Form 1138 if you need to extend the time to pay any potential tax differences. If your business showed losses either way, there might not be much tax difference between S and C status, but the form types and compliance requirements are different.
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Eleanor Foster
•Thank you for mentioning the first-time penalty abatement option! I wasn't aware of that. The business has been consistently filing and paying all other taxes on time, so hopefully that helps establish a clean compliance history. And yes, the business did show losses both years so the tax difference would be minimal - it's really just about getting compliant with the correct entity classification. Would you recommend I send a separate letter requesting penalty abatement now, or wait to see if they actually assess penalties first?
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Adrian Hughes
•I'd wait to see if they assess penalties first. No need to raise an issue that might not even come up. If you do get a notice with penalties, then respond promptly with your penalty abatement request. Keep detailed records of all your communications with the IRS, including the name of any agent you spoke with, dates, and what was discussed. This documentation will strengthen your reasonable cause argument if needed. The fact that the electronic system accepted your original filing provides good evidence that you were making a good faith effort to comply, which is what the IRS looks for when considering penalty relief.
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Molly Chambers
Has anyone addressed the shareholders' personal returns in this situation? Since they've been reporting S-Corp income/losses on their personal returns via K-1s for multiple years, what happens if the IRS doesn't approve the retroactive S-Corp status? From my experience, the IRS is more likely to approve the backdated S-Corp election since it would create a bigger mess to unwind all those personal returns. But if they don't, are the shareholders looking at potential penalties for incorrect reporting on their personal returns too?
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Ian Armstrong
•This is a great point. If the S-Corp status isn't granted retroactively, technically the corporation would have been a C-Corp all along, meaning any losses wouldn't have flowed through to the shareholders' personal returns. They would have improperly claimed those losses. I went through something similar years ago, and we had to file amended personal returns removing the losses once the IRS finally ruled. It was a nightmare because it triggered alternative minimum tax issues we hadn't planned for.
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GalacticGuru
This is definitely a challenging situation, but you're handling it well by being proactive. I've seen similar cases where the IRS systems don't properly sync S-Corp elections with tax account records. Given the deadline pressure, I'd recommend filing Form 1120 (C-Corp return) by the due date as a protective measure, clearly marking it as "PROTECTIVE FILING PENDING S-CORP ELECTION APPROVAL" at the top. This protects you from late filing penalties while your backdating request is pending. A few additional considerations: 1) Request a copy of your complete tax account transcript from the IRS - this will show exactly what elections they have on file for your entity. 2) If you have proof of mailing the original Form 2553 (certified mail receipt, etc.), include that with any follow-up correspondence. 3) Consider reaching out to the Taxpayer Advocate Service if your backdating request takes too long - they can help expedite resolution of these administrative issues. The good news is that with consistent S-Corp filings and losses in both years, the IRS generally wants to resolve these situations favorably rather than create a compliance nightmare for everyone involved. Your documentation of accepted 1120-S returns will work in your favor as evidence of good faith compliance efforts. Keep detailed records of all communications and don't stress too much - these issues get resolved, they just take patience!
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Daniel Washington
•This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about requesting the complete tax account transcript - that's a great idea to see exactly what the IRS has on file. The protective filing approach makes a lot of sense too, especially with the clear marking at the top. One question about the Taxpayer Advocate Service - is there a specific timeframe I should wait before reaching out to them? I know they're meant for cases where normal channels aren't working, but I'm not sure what constitutes "too long" for a backdating request like this. It's been 3 weeks since I submitted everything, but I know IRS processing can take months. Also, do you think it's worth sending a follow-up letter now referencing the original submission, or should I wait a bit longer? I don't want to seem impatient, but I also want to make sure nothing got lost in their system.
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Sophia Bennett
•For the Taxpayer Advocate Service, I'd generally wait at least 60-90 days after submitting your backdating request before escalating to them. They typically want to see that you've given the normal process a reasonable chance to work first. However, if you're facing imminent deadlines or financial hardship, they may take cases sooner. At 3 weeks, you're still in the normal processing timeframe. I'd wait another 3-4 weeks before sending a follow-up inquiry. When you do follow up, reference your original submission date and include copies of everything again - sometimes documents do get misplaced in their system. One more tip: if you haven't already, make sure to keep copies of your certified mail receipts or delivery confirmations for everything you've sent. This documentation becomes crucial if you need to prove you submitted requests within required timeframes. The protective 1120 filing really is your best bet right now - it keeps you compliant while the election issue gets sorted out, and you can always amend later if needed.
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Madison Tipne
This is exactly the kind of situation that highlights how frustrating IRS administrative processes can be. I'm dealing with a similar issue right now where my LLC election seems to have gotten lost in their system. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - when you do file that protective Form 1120, make sure to attach a statement explaining the situation. Include details about your pending S-Corp election request, the dates of your original filing, and reference the fact that your previous 1120-S returns were accepted. This creates a paper trail that will be helpful if an IRS examiner ever looks at your file later. Also, consider requesting penalty relief under Revenue Procedure 2013-30 if you haven't already - it specifically addresses late S-Corp elections and provides a framework for reasonable cause relief. The fact that you've been consistently filing as an S-Corp and your returns were electronically accepted gives you a strong reasonable cause argument. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the IRS generally tries to resolve these situations favorably when there's clear evidence of good faith compliance efforts. Your documentation of accepted returns and consistent filing behavior should work in your favor. Hang in there - these administrative tangles do get sorted out eventually!
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Aiden O'Connor
•This is such valuable advice about attaching a detailed statement to the protective Form 1120! I hadn't thought about creating that kind of paper trail, but it makes total sense for future reference. The Revenue Procedure 2013-30 reference is particularly helpful - I'll definitely look into that framework for reasonable cause relief. It sounds like it's specifically designed for situations like this where there's been consistent good faith effort to comply. One follow-up question - when you mention attaching a statement to the Form 1120, should this be a formal letter or just a brief explanation? And would you recommend sending a copy of that statement separately to whoever is handling the backdating request, or just keep it with the protective filing for now? The waiting really is the hardest part, especially when you're trying to do right by your clients and ensure everything stays compliant. Thanks for the encouragement - it helps to know others have navigated these waters successfully!
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Ali Anderson
As someone who's dealt with similar IRS entity classification issues, I want to emphasize that you're absolutely on the right track with your approach. The fact that your 2020 1120-S was electronically accepted does create a reasonable expectation that your S-Corp status was valid, even though we now know the IRS systems don't always sync properly. One critical point I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you're documenting the business purpose and timing of your original S-Corp election. The IRS looks favorably on elections made for legitimate business reasons (like pass-through taxation for losses) rather than tax avoidance motives. Since your business had losses, this actually strengthens your case for backdating approval. I'd also recommend checking if your state has any corresponding S-Corp elections that need to be aligned. Sometimes state and federal elections get out of sync, which can create additional complications down the road. The protective 1120 filing is definitely the smart move here - it shows good faith compliance while protecting against penalties. Just make sure to clearly mark it and include that explanatory statement others have mentioned. One last thought: if this gets resolved favorably (which seems likely given your circumstances), consider setting up a reminder system to verify your entity status annually going forward. These IRS system glitches aren't uncommon, and catching them early makes resolution much easier.
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GalaxyGlider
•This is such a comprehensive overview - thank you for highlighting the business purpose angle! You're absolutely right that the legitimate business reasons (pass-through losses) actually work in favor of the backdating request rather than against it. That's a really important distinction I hadn't fully considered. The point about state elections is particularly valuable too. I should definitely verify that the state S-Corp election is properly aligned with whatever gets resolved at the federal level. The last thing we'd want is to fix the federal issue only to discover there's a mismatch at the state level. Your suggestion about annual verification is spot on. This whole experience has really shown me how these administrative oversights can create major headaches down the road. Setting up a system to periodically confirm entity status with the IRS would definitely be worth the effort to avoid future surprises. I feel much more confident about the protective filing approach after reading everyone's advice here. The combination of clear marking, explanatory statements, and documentation of the business purpose should create a solid foundation for resolving this favorably. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - it's incredibly helpful to know others have successfully navigated similar situations!
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Jasmine Quinn
This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences and advice! As someone new to dealing with IRS entity classification issues, I'm amazed at how common these S-Corp election problems seem to be. I'm particularly grateful for the detailed explanations about protective filing with Form 1120 and the importance of creating a clear paper trail. The Revenue Procedure 2013-30 reference and first-time penalty abatement options are things I never would have known to look into on my own. One question that occurred to me while reading through all this - for those who successfully resolved similar situations, how long did the entire process typically take from start to finish? I know everyone's case is different, but it would be helpful to have some realistic expectations about timeframes, especially for planning purposes with other business compliance matters. Also, has anyone dealt with this type of issue where there were multiple years involved? I'm wondering if having filed 1120-S returns for both 2019 and 2020 before the problem was discovered makes the case stronger or more complicated for backdating approval. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complex tax situations. The practical, real-world advice here is worth its weight in gold compared to trying to decipher IRS publications on your own!
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Justin Trejo
•Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right that these S-Corp election issues are surprisingly common - I think many of us were shocked to discover how frequently the IRS systems fail to properly sync elections with tax accounts. Regarding timeframes, from my experience and what I've seen others report, the backdating approval process typically takes anywhere from 2-6 months once you've submitted a complete request. The key is making sure your initial submission includes everything they need - incomplete requests just get sent back and restart the clock. Having multiple years of consistent 1120-S filings actually works strongly in your favor! It demonstrates a clear pattern of good faith compliance and makes it much harder for the IRS to argue that you weren't entitled to S-Corp treatment. The fact that you filed consistently for both 2019 and 2020 before discovering the issue shows you weren't trying to game the system - you genuinely believed you had valid S-Corp status. One tip I'd add based on others' experiences here: keep detailed logs of every interaction with the IRS, including dates, times, and representative names. If you need to escalate to the Taxpayer Advocate Service later, having that documentation trail makes a huge difference in how quickly they can help resolve your case. You're taking all the right steps, and this community really is invaluable for navigating these bureaucratic mazes!
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