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Zara Ahmed

Can I use Dependent Care FSA if my spouse is self-employed with a new business?

My spouse started a small business this year, and I'm trying to figure out our tax situation. I work full-time for a company that offers Dependent Care FSA as one of our benefits. We're planning to send our youngest to preschool next year, while our older kids will all be attending school full-time. I've been searching for clear tax guidance on this situation, but it's surprisingly difficult to find specific information. The main question I have is: Does my spouse need to earn some minimum revenue or profit from their self-employment for us to qualify for the Dependent Care FSA? I'm concerned because in this first year of business (2023), my spouse will likely show a loss since they're reinvesting most of the income back into growing the business. I'm worried the IRS might view this as my spouse "not really being in business" and disqualify us from using the Dependent Care FSA. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation or know the rules around Dependent Care FSA with a self-employed spouse who's just starting out? Any input would be really helpful.

StarStrider

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The Dependent Care FSA rules can be tricky with a self-employed spouse! To qualify for the Dependent Care FSA, both spouses must have "earned income" unless an exception applies. Self-employment income definitely counts as earned income, even if the business is new. Here's the good news: Your spouse doesn't need to earn a minimum amount for you to qualify. However, your Dependent Care FSA contributions cannot exceed the lower of either spouse's earned income. So if your spouse has a net loss for the year (after deducting business expenses), their earned income would be considered $0, which would limit your FSA contributions. The IRS doesn't have a specific "minimum" requirement for a legitimate business - they look at factors like whether the activity is conducted in a businesslike manner, time and effort invested, profit motive, etc. As long as your spouse is genuinely trying to make a profit (even if not successful initially), they're considered "in business." Since your spouse is reinvesting in the business, document everything carefully to show this is a legitimate business activity with profit intent, not just a hobby.

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Luca Esposito

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Thanks for the detailed response! One follow-up question: if my spouse shows a loss on Schedule C for 2023 but then starts making a profit in 2024 (when we'd actually be using the Dependent Care FSA), would we still have an issue? Also, does the IRS look at our tax returns together when determining this, or just at each individual's income?

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StarStrider

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They'll look at each tax year separately, so if your spouse shows a loss in 2023 but has positive earned income in 2024, you'd be fine for the 2024 Dependent Care FSA. The IRS evaluates each spouse's earned income individually for this purpose, not your joint income. If you're planning to use the Dependent Care FSA in 2024, what matters is your spouse's earned income during that specific tax year. Even a small amount of net profit from self-employment in 2024 would qualify as earned income and allow you to contribute to the FSA (up to that amount).

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Nia Thompson

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Nia Thompson

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Ethan Wilson

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Yuki Tanaka

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Carmen Diaz

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My CPA explained this to me last year. For Dependent Care FSA qualification, your spouse needs to be "gainfully employed" which includes self-employment even if initially not profitable. The IRS uses factors like: - Regular activity/effort in the business - Maintaining proper records - Having a separate business bank account - Marketing efforts - Business plan showing intent to profit For the first few years, losses due to startup costs are expected and won't disqualify you. But if losses continue for many years, the IRS might reclassify it as a hobby. Also remember that your FSA contribution limit is capped at the LOWER of either spouse's earned income. So if your spouse has zero or negative net income, you technically couldn't contribute that year.

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Andre Laurent

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Thanks for sharing this! Do you know if there's a specific IRS publication that covers this scenario? I've been looking but can't find clear guidance specific to Dependent Care FSA with a self-employed spouse showing initial losses.

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Carmen Diaz

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IRS Publication 503 (Child and Dependent Care Expenses) covers most of this information. While it doesn't specifically address the scenario of a spouse with initial business losses in great detail, it does explain the earned income requirements for the Dependent Care Credit, which follow the same rules as the Dependent Care FSA. The IRS also has Publication 535 (Business Expenses) that discusses the factors they use to determine if an activity is a business versus a hobby. Together, these two publications should give you the information you need. If your spouse is legitimately in business with the intention of making a profit, even with initial losses, they should qualify as "gainfully employed" for FSA purposes.

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Emily Jackson

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My tax advisor gave me conflicting information on this last year! She said my spouse needed to show at least some profit from self-employment for us to use my Dependent Care FSA. We ended up not using the FSA and just took the tax credit instead, which worked out better for us anyway since we have 2 kids and high childcare costs. Have you compared whether the FSA or the tax credit would be better in your situation? Sometimes the tax credit can be more beneficial, especially if your spouse might have little/no income.

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Liam Mendez

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This is a great point! My family did the math both ways and found the tax credit was better for us than the FSA when my wife was getting her business off the ground. The credit allowed us to claim up to $3,000 of expenses for one child or $6,000 for two or more, while her low initial income would have limited our FSA contributions.

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Ella Harper

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I went through this exact situation when my husband started his consulting business in 2022. The key thing I learned is that the IRS doesn't require a minimum profit amount for your spouse to be considered "gainfully employed" for Dependent Care FSA purposes. What matters is that they have a legitimate business with profit intent. Even if your spouse shows a loss in 2023 due to startup costs, as long as they're genuinely operating a business (keeping records, spending time on it, marketing, etc.), they qualify as self-employed. However, your FSA contribution limit will be capped at their net earnings for the year. One thing to consider: if your spouse expects to have minimal or negative income in the year you want to use the FSA, you might want to compare the FSA benefit against taking the Child and Dependent Care Credit instead. The credit doesn't have the same earned income limitation and might be more beneficial in your situation. Also, make sure your spouse keeps detailed business records - receipts, time logs, business plan, etc. This documentation will be crucial if the IRS ever questions whether it's a legitimate business versus a hobby. Good luck with the new business venture!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to this community and dealing with almost the exact same situation. My partner just started a freelance graphic design business this year, and I've been so confused about whether we can use my employer's Dependent Care FSA. The part about keeping detailed records is especially useful - I hadn't thought about time logs as documentation. Do you know if there's a specific format the IRS prefers for business records, or is it more about just being thorough and consistent? We want to make sure we're doing everything right from the start.

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