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Wesley Hallow

Choosing Between Dependent Care FSA vs Child Care Tax Credit for Preschool Expenses

Hey everyone, I'm currently weighing my options for managing my kids' preschool costs for 2025. I work full-time while my spouse works part-time, and our combined AGI is about $145,000. My employer offers a dependent care FSA for 2025, which seems like a good option. I'll have two children in preschool next year with their combined tuition coming to around $5,800. Initially, I was excited about using the FSA for these expenses. However, after doing some digging online, I discovered that using the dependent care FSA affects eligibility for the Child Care Tax Credit and Dependent Care Credit. Now I'm confused about which option would save us more money. Does anyone have experience with this situation? Which would be more advantageous to take - the dependent care FSA or the tax credits? I want to make sure I'm maximizing our tax benefits for these childcare expenses. Thanks in advance for any guidance!

Justin Chang

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You're asking a really good question! The comparison between Dependent Care FSA and Child Care Tax Credit (which is actually the same as the Dependent Care Credit) comes down to your tax bracket and specific situation. With your AGI of $145,000, you're likely in the 22% or 24% federal tax bracket. The Dependent Care FSA allows you to set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax for two or more children. This means you'd save whatever your marginal tax rate is (22-24%) plus FICA taxes (7.65%) on that amount. The Dependent Care Credit has income-based percentage limits. At your income level, you'd qualify for the minimum 20% credit on up to $6,000 of expenses for two children. So that's potentially a $1,200 credit. Here's the key: You can actually use BOTH, but not for the same expenses. If your total childcare costs will be $5,800, you could put $5,000 in the FSA (saving roughly $1,500 in taxes) and then claim the remaining $800 for the Dependent Care Credit (saving about $160 more). Remember that FSA funds are use-it-or-lose-it, so only contribute what you know you'll spend.

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Wesley Hallow

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Thanks for this detailed breakdown! If I understand correctly, I should max out the FSA first ($5,000) and then apply any remaining expenses toward the tax credit? Also, does this strategy change at all if our actual childcare costs end up being higher or lower than expected? Like if we end up spending $7,000 instead of $5,800?

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Justin Chang

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Yes, that's exactly right - max out the $5,000 FSA first since you'll get both income tax and FICA tax savings, then use the Dependent Care Credit for any remaining eligible expenses. If your costs increase to $7,000, the strategy stays the same - you'd use $5,000 for the FSA and then claim the Dependent Care Credit on the remaining $2,000 (which would give you about a $400 credit at the 20% rate). This maximizes your overall tax benefit.

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Grace Thomas

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Dylan Baskin

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Grace Thomas

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Lauren Wood

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Ellie Lopez

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Lauren Wood

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Paige Cantoni

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One thing to consider that nobody mentioned yet - if you think you might not use all your FSA funds, remember that some employers offer a grace period or a $550 carryover option. Mine allows us to use the funds through March 15 of the following year. With preschool costs, you'll probably use the full $5,000 FSA amount, but it's something to check with your employer just in case. We once missed this detail and scrambled to use up funds in December when we could have had extra time.

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Kylo Ren

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Do you know if summer camps qualify for dependent care expenses? My kids do preschool during the school year but then we have day camps in summer. Trying to figure out if I can use FSA funds for those too.

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Paige Cantoni

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Yes, summer day camps (not overnight camps) typically qualify as dependent care expenses! You can use FSA funds for them as long as they allow you to work or look for work. This actually makes planning your FSA contribution easier because you can include both preschool and summer camp costs when estimating your annual childcare expenses. Just make sure to get receipts that clearly show the care was for your dependent children.

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Has anyone had issues with their employer FSA administrator requiring extremely specific documentation? My FSA administrator keeps rejecting my preschool receipts because they don't separately list the "educational" vs "care" portions. It's been a nightmare!

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Jason Brewer

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I had this exact problem! Ask your preschool to write a letter stating that the primary purpose of the program is for childcare while parents work, and have them estimate what percentage of the day is caregiving vs. educational. My preschool wrote that it was 80% care, 20% educational, and my FSA administrator finally accepted it.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat with two kids starting preschool next year. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - make sure to check if your state has any additional dependent care credits that could stack on top of the federal benefits. In my state, we have a small additional credit for childcare expenses that I almost missed. It's only about $200, but every bit helps when you're dealing with these costs. Also, for documentation purposes, I've found it helpful to set up a dedicated folder (physical or digital) at the beginning of the year for all childcare receipts, provider tax ID numbers, and any correspondence about qualifying expenses. It makes tax time so much easier when everything is organized from day one. The combination strategy that Justin mentioned really does seem to be the sweet spot for most middle-income families. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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Emma Davis

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Great point about state credits! I completely forgot to check for those when I was doing my planning last year. Quick question - do you know if state dependent care credits typically have the same income limits as the federal credit, or do they vary by state? Also, your tip about setting up a dedicated folder is spot on. I learned this the hard way when I was scrambling to find receipts at tax time. Now I take photos of every receipt immediately and store them in a cloud folder organized by month. Makes reimbursement requests so much faster too! @Wesley - this might be another thing to consider as you're planning your strategy for 2025.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed discussion I was hoping for! Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and strategies. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like the consensus is to max out the FSA first ($5,000) and then use the remaining $800 in preschool expenses for the Dependent Care Credit. This should give us the best overall tax benefit at our income level. A few follow-up questions for the group: 1. Do I need to coordinate with my spouse's employer if they also offer a dependent care FSA, or is the $5,000 limit per family regardless of how many employers are involved? 2. For the receipts and documentation, should I be asking my preschool provider for anything specific upfront to avoid the issues Nina mentioned? 3. Emma's point about state credits is interesting - we're in California, so I'll need to research if there are any additional benefits there. I'm definitely going to set up that organized filing system Liam suggested from day one. The last thing I want is to be scrambling for receipts next April! Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge and experiences. This community is incredibly helpful for navigating these complex tax situations.

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Alexis Renard

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Welcome to the community! Great questions - let me help with what I know: 1. The $5,000 FSA limit is per family, not per employer. So if both you and your spouse have access to dependent care FSAs, you'll need to coordinate to make sure your combined contributions don't exceed $5,000 total. Most people find it easier to have just one spouse handle the FSA to avoid complications. 2. For documentation, I'd recommend asking your preschool upfront for: their Tax ID number, a statement that the primary purpose is childcare (not just education), and receipts that clearly show dates of service, your child's name, and the amount paid. Having this from the start will save you headaches later. 3. California doesn't have a state dependent care credit like some other states, but you might qualify for other education-related credits if your preschool expenses overlap with educational programs. The strategy you've outlined sounds solid! Just make sure to double-check your AGI projections since that affects both the FSA tax savings and the credit percentage. Sometimes it's worth running the numbers with slightly higher or lower income estimates to see how sensitive the benefits are to income changes.

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Andre Moreau

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Great discussion everyone! I've been following this thread closely as I'm in a very similar situation with two kids starting daycare next year. One additional tip I wanted to share - if you're using the FSA + tax credit strategy, make sure to keep very detailed records of which expenses you're using for each benefit. I learned this from my accountant last year. For example, if you're putting $5,000 in your FSA and have $5,800 total expenses, clearly document that January-October expenses ($5,000) went through the FSA, and November-December expenses ($800) are being claimed for the tax credit. This prevents any confusion if you're ever audited and ensures you're not accidentally double-dipping. Also, @Wesley - since you mentioned your spouse works part-time, make sure their earnings meet the minimum requirement for the dependent care benefits. The IRS requires that both spouses have earned income (or one spouse is a full-time student/disabled) to qualify for these benefits. Usually not an issue, but worth double-checking the specific dollar thresholds. The strategy outlined here should definitely save you the most money given your income level. Just remember that FSA elections are typically locked in during open enrollment, so make sure you're confident in your childcare expense estimates before committing to the full $5,000.

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Kristin Frank

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This is such valuable advice, Andre! The record-keeping tip about clearly separating which expenses go toward the FSA vs. tax credit is brilliant - I never would have thought about potential audit issues with overlapping claims. Your point about the spouse's earned income requirement is really important too. I've seen people get tripped up by this, especially when one spouse has variable part-time income. The general rule is that your dependent care benefits can't exceed the lower-earning spouse's income, so if your spouse only earns $3,000 for the year, you'd be limited to $3,000 in total benefits (FSA + credit combined) even though the limits are technically higher. @Wesley - you might want to project your spouse's 2025 earnings to make sure this doesn't affect your planning. If their part-time income will be less than your total childcare expenses, it could change the optimal strategy. Also echoing the point about FSA elections being locked in during open enrollment. Some employers allow mid-year changes for qualifying life events (like a new child starting daycare), but it's much easier to get the amount right from the start. Better to be slightly conservative with your FSA contribution if you're unsure about exact costs.

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Tasia Synder

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This has been an incredibly informative thread! I'm in a similar situation with twins starting daycare next year, and this discussion has really helped clarify the FSA vs. tax credit strategy. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - when calculating your potential tax savings, don't forget to factor in state income taxes if you live in a state that has them. The FSA contributions reduce your state taxable income too, which can add another 4-6% in savings depending on your state's tax rate. Also, for those worried about the FSA "use it or lose it" rule, many employers now offer a $610 carryover option (increased from $550 for 2025) or a grace period through March 15th of the following year. This gives you a little buffer if your actual expenses end up being slightly less than projected. @Wesley - given your situation with $5,800 in expected costs, the FSA + credit combination definitely seems optimal. Just make sure to confirm your spouse's part-time income will support the full benefit amount as others mentioned. The math really does work out better than using either option alone at your income level. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with documentation and record-keeping too - those practical tips are just as valuable as the tax strategy advice!

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This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone new to navigating childcare tax benefits, I'm really grateful for all the detailed explanations and real-world experiences everyone has shared. The state tax savings point is particularly helpful - I hadn't considered that the FSA contributions would reduce my state taxable income too. That could add up to meaningful additional savings depending on where you live. I'm curious about the timing aspect that Andre mentioned regarding documentation. When you're splitting expenses between FSA and tax credit, do you need to actually time your payments to align with your documentation strategy? Or is it more about how you categorize them when filing, regardless of when the payments were made throughout the year? Also, for those who have used both benefits successfully - do tax preparation software programs like TurboTax handle this split automatically, or do you need to manually ensure you're not double-counting any expenses? @Wesley - it sounds like you've got a solid plan forming with all this great advice! The community knowledge here is really impressive.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Great question about the timing and tax software handling! From my experience, the timing of payments doesn't matter as much as how you allocate them for tax purposes. You can pay your preschool monthly throughout the year and then decide at tax time which expenses to claim through which benefit. For documentation, I create a simple spreadsheet tracking all childcare payments with columns for date, amount, provider, and then two additional columns marked "FSA" and "Tax Credit" where I allocate each expense. This makes it crystal clear which dollars are going toward which benefit and ensures no overlap. Regarding tax software - most programs like TurboTax will walk you through both the FSA reporting and the dependent care credit, but YOU need to make sure you're not double-counting. The software won't automatically catch if you're claiming the same $1,000 expense in both places. It relies on you to input accurate numbers for each section. One tip: I always total up my FSA reimbursements first (your employer should provide a summary), then subtract that amount from my total childcare expenses before entering anything into the dependent care credit section. This prevents any accidental overlap. @Wesley - this systematic approach will serve you well, especially with $5,800 in expenses to track across two different tax benefits. The key is being methodical about the allocation from day one.

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Miguel Silva

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This spreadsheet approach is exactly what I needed! As someone just starting to navigate this whole FSA vs tax credit situation, the systematic tracking method you described makes so much sense. I was worried about accidentally claiming the same expenses twice, but your tip about totaling FSA reimbursements first and then subtracting from total expenses before entering the dependent care credit section is really helpful. It creates a clear separation that even someone new to this can follow. Quick question - when you say "allocate each expense" in your spreadsheet, do you mean you're deciding in real-time throughout the year which benefit to use for each payment? Or are you just tracking everything and making those allocation decisions at tax time? I'm trying to figure out if I need to be strategic about which months I submit FSA reimbursement requests for. @Wesley - this thread has been incredibly educational! It's clear that the FSA + credit combination is the way to go, and now we have a solid framework for tracking everything properly.

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