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How do FSA/HSA accounts affect my tax refund amount?

Hey tax people, quick question about FSA and HSA accounts and how they impact refunds. This is my first year using these benefits through my work - I signed up for the healthcare FSA ($300) and maxed out the dependent care FSA ($5000) for my kids' daycare expenses. In previous years I've always gotten a decent refund check when I file. Now I'm wondering how these FSA/HSA accounts will change my refund situation? Will I get more back, less back, or what? And between the healthcare FSA and dependent care FSA, which one makes more financial sense in the long run? My company just started their open enrollment period and I need to decide whether to continue with these options for next year. Any insights would be super helpful!

The good news is that both FSA and HSA contributions typically reduce your taxable income, which can increase your refund (or reduce what you owe). But they work a bit differently: For your Healthcare FSA ($300), that amount is deducted from your taxable income. If you're in the 22% tax bracket, that's roughly $66 in tax savings. The Dependent Care FSA ($5000) is usually a bigger deal for most people. That $5000 reduction in taxable income could save you around $1100 in taxes if you're in the 22% bracket. However, there's also a Dependent Care Tax Credit you could claim instead, so which option benefits you more depends on your income level and filing status. As for which is more beneficial long-term - HSAs are generally considered the better option if you qualify (have a high-deductible health plan) because unused funds roll over year after year and can be invested, unlike FSAs which are typically "use it or lose it" each year.

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What about if I only use part of my FSA by the end of the year? For the healthcare one specifically. Does that mean I lose the tax benefit on the unused portion?

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For Healthcare FSAs, it's important to understand that you get the tax benefit regardless of whether you use all the funds or not - the money comes out of your paycheck pre-tax either way. So you'll still see the full tax benefit. The issue is that most FSAs have a "use it or lose it" rule, meaning any unused funds at the end of the plan year are forfeited. Some employers offer either a grace period (usually 2.5 months) to use remaining funds or allow you to carry over a limited amount (typically up to $610 for 2023) to the next year. Check with your HR department to see which option, if any, your plan offers.

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Something to remember about the dependent care FSA: if you and your spouse both have access to one through work, the $5000 limit is per family, not per person. Made that mistake one year and had to deal with excess contributions on our tax return. Not fun!

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Ugh, really? My wife and I both put in $5000 this year... how bad is it to fix this? Do we have to amend or is it something we handle when we file?

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You don't need to amend anything right now, but you'll need to handle it when you file your taxes. The excess $5000 will need to be added back to your taxable income on your tax return. Your W-2s will show the full amounts in Box 10 (for dependent care benefits), and you'll need to report the excess on your Form 2441. Basically, you'll still get pre-tax treatment on the first $5000 combined, but that extra $5000 will be taxed. Check with your payroll department ASAP to see if you can stop or reduce contributions for the rest of this year to minimize the excess.

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For the healthcare side, remember that FSA and HSA are completely different things! FSA = Flexible Spending Account, use-it-or-lose-it each year HSA = Health Savings Account, yours forever, rolls over yearly You mentioned both in your title but then only talked about FSAs. If you actually have access to an HSA (requires being on a high-deductible health plan), that's usually a better long-term financial choice than an FSA because you never lose the money and can invest it for retirement.

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Can you have both an HSA and FSA at the same time? My company offers both but HR wasn't clear if I could do both.

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