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Shelby Bauman

Dependent Care FSA vs Child Tax Credit - which saves more for daycare expenses?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out what's the smarter move for our family with daycare costs. My employer just introduced a Dependent Care FSA option where I can set aside up to $5000 pre-tax. We have twin 3-year-olds and definitely spend way more than that on daycare annually (it's ridiculous how expensive childcare is these days). Here's my situation - we're married filing jointly with a household income around $165,000 before taxes. The Dependent Care FSA would lower my taxable income, which sounds good, but I'm concerned about how this might affect the Child Tax Credit we usually receive, which has been really helpful for getting a small refund back each year. I'm just not sure if the FSA paperwork and hassle is worth it? Will we see a noticeable difference in our tax situation if we go with the FSA vs just claiming the Child Tax Credit as we've done before? I don't want to make a mistake that ends up hurting us at tax time. Anyone have experience with both options who can help me understand which route is better for our situation?

Quinn Herbert

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The Dependent Care FSA and Child Tax Credit are actually two separate benefits that can work together - you're not necessarily choosing one over the other. The Dependent Care FSA lets you set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax for childcare expenses. At your income level, this could save you around $1,100-1,500 depending on your tax bracket (that's money you won't pay taxes on). The FSA does require keeping receipts and submitting claims, but most employers now have online systems that make this fairly simple. The Child Tax Credit is currently $2,000 per qualifying child, and with your income, you should still qualify for the full amount regardless of the FSA. This credit directly reduces your tax liability dollar-for-dollar. What you might be thinking of is the Child and Dependent Care Credit, which is different from the Child Tax Credit. There's a coordination rule between the Dependent Care FSA and the Child and Dependent Care Credit - you can't "double-dip" on the same expenses. But you can absolutely use the Dependent Care FSA and still claim the regular Child Tax Credit.

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Shelby Bauman

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Oh, I think I've been confusing the Child Tax Credit with the Child and Dependent Care Credit this whole time! So to clarify - if we use the $5000 FSA for daycare expenses, we can still get the full $2000 per child tax credit ($4000 total for our twins)? But we couldn't also claim those same daycare expenses for the Child and Dependent Care Credit?

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Quinn Herbert

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Yes, that's exactly right! You can use the $5,000 FSA for daycare expenses AND still get the full $2,000 per child for the Child Tax Credit ($4,000 total for your twins). The Child Tax Credit is based solely on having qualifying children and meeting income requirements - it has nothing to do with your childcare expenses. What you can't do is use the same childcare expenses for both the FSA and the Child and Dependent Care Credit. Most families in your income range typically benefit more from maxing out the FSA first, then if you have childcare expenses beyond $5,000, you could potentially claim those additional expenses for the Child and Dependent Care Credit.

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Salim Nasir

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Laila Fury

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Nasira Ibanez

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Just wanted to add some real numbers from our experience last year to help with your decision. Family of 4 (2 kids), income around $155k: Without FSA: - Paid daycare costs with after-tax money - Got Child Tax Credit: $4,000 - Got Child and Dependent Care Credit: about $1,000 With FSA: - Used $5,000 pre-tax for daycare (saved about $1,300 in taxes) - Still got Child Tax Credit: $4,000 - Got smaller Child and Dependent Care Credit for expenses above $5k: about $600 Total benefit from using FSA: about $900 extra in our pockets. The FSA paperwork was minimal - just submitting receipts quarterly through our benefits portal. Definitely worth it in my opinion!

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Khalil Urso

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How complicated was it to submit the daycare receipts? My provider just gives handwritten receipts and I'm worried they won't be accepted.

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Nasira Ibanez

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Our daycare gives pretty basic receipts too, and they were fine! The key information needed is: provider name, provider tax ID or SSN, dates of service, amount paid, and child's name. If your handwritten receipts have that info, they should work. If anything's missing, you can usually ask your provider to fill out a standard form that most FSA administrators provide. I just take pictures of our receipts with my phone and upload them to our benefits portal. The whole process takes maybe 5 minutes per quarter. Much easier than I expected!

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Myles Regis

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Be careful with dependent care FSAs - they're typically "use it or lose it" by the end of the plan year! I set aside $5000 last year and then our childcare situation changed (my mother-in-law retired and started watching the kids 3 days a week). We only spent about $3200 on paid childcare and LOST the remaining $1800 we had contributed! Still kicking myself over that one. Make sure you're very confident about your childcare expenses before committing to the full $5000.

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Brian Downey

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Some plans offer a grace period though! My company's FSA gives until March 15th of the following year to use funds. Worth checking if your plan has this feature.

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Great question! I went through this exact same analysis last year. At your income level ($165k), you're definitely in a tax bracket where the Dependent Care FSA makes financial sense. Here's what I learned: The Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per qualifying child) is completely separate from childcare expenses and won't be affected by using the FSA. You'll still get the full $4,000 for your twins regardless. The FSA saves you taxes on that $5,000 contribution - at your income level, that's probably around $1,200-1,500 in tax savings depending on your state taxes. Since you're spending way more than $5,000 on daycare anyway, you're guaranteed to use the full amount. The "hassle" factor was my biggest concern too, but honestly it's pretty minimal. Most employers have mobile apps now where you just snap photos of receipts and submit them. I probably spend 10 minutes total per quarter on FSA paperwork. One tip: make sure to ask about your plan's grace period or rollover rules. Some plans let you carry over a small amount ($610 this year) or give you extra time to spend the money. Definitely worth maxing it out in your situation!

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CosmicCowboy

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This breakdown is really helpful! I'm curious about one thing though - you mentioned the FSA saves around $1,200-1,500 in taxes at the $165k income level. Is that calculation based on federal taxes only, or does it include state taxes too? We're in a state with income tax, so I'm wondering if the savings would be even higher than that estimate. Also, do you know if the FSA contribution affects your AGI for other tax benefit calculations?

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