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Andre Moreau

Can I use both dependent care FSA and Dependent Care Tax Credit for the same child?

Hey tax friends! I just got offered a position at a new company and they have this dependent care FSA benefit that sounds really good. But I'm worried about messing up our taxes since my husband and I have had some issues with the IRS before. We both work full-time (he makes more than I do) and we have one toddler. My new employer allows up to $5000 for the dependent care FSA, but our daycare expenses are closer to $12,000 per year. I'm wondering if we can put the full $5000 into the FSA but also claim the remaining $7000 as a dependent care tax credit when we file? Or can we only use one of these benefits? I don't want to accidentally double-dip if that's not allowed!

You can use both, but not for the same expenses! The Dependent Care FSA and the Dependent Care Tax Credit work together with some limitations. First, the $5,000 you put in the DCFSA is pre-tax money, which is great. For the Dependent Care Tax Credit, you can claim up to $3,000 in expenses for one child (or $6,000 for two or more). But here's the important part - you have to reduce your eligible expenses for the credit by what you put in your FSA. So with $12,000 in total childcare costs, if you use $5,000 in your FSA, you'd have $7,000 remaining. But you can only claim up to $3,000 of that for the credit for one child. The credit is then a percentage of that $3,000 based on your income.

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Wait I'm confused. So if I put $5000 in FSA, does that mean I can only claim $1000 for the tax credit since the max is $6000 total between both? Or am I misunderstanding how this works?

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You're mixing up a couple things. For one child, the maximum expenses you can claim for the tax credit is $3,000. For two or more children, it's $6,000. If you have one child and put $5,000 in your FSA, you won't be able to claim any expenses for the tax credit because you've already used more than the $3,000 limit. If you have two or more children with $6,000 in possible expenses for the credit, then using $5,000 in FSA would leave you with $1,000 in expenses eligible for the credit.

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Mei Chen

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CosmicCadet

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Does it actually explain WHY one option is better than the other? Or does it just tell you what to do? I'm in a similar situation but I like to understand the reasoning behind tax decisions.

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Liam O'Connor

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools... How do you know it's giving accurate advice? Does it account for state taxes too or just federal?

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Mei Chen

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CosmicCadet

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I tried taxr.ai after seeing this thread and wow - it showed me I was leaving almost $800 on the table with how I was handling my dependent care expenses! I've been putting the full $5000 in my FSA for years without realizing that with my income level and two kids, I should've been splitting things differently between the FSA and the tax credit. The analysis broke down exactly why this was happening based on my tax bracket and the credit percentage I qualify for. Just submitted the paperwork to adjust my FSA contribution for next year. Thanks for recommending this!

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Amara Adeyemi

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Liam O'Connor

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Liam O'Connor

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I have to eat crow here. After being totally suspicious about that Claimyr service mentioned above, I actually tried it yesterday out of desperation because I've been trying to reach the IRS for TWO WEEKS about my dependent care credit question. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 22 minutes while I just went about my day. The agent confirmed exactly what I needed to know about coordinating my FSA with the dependent care credit. For what it's worth, she told me that with one child, the $5000 FSA would use up most of my eligible expenses for the $3000 credit limit (leaving me only able to claim a credit on an additional $3000 - $5000 = -$2000, which obviously doesn't work). But if we had two kids, we could use both since the limit would be $6000 for the credit.

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One thing to consider is your income level - the Dependent Care Credit phases out as your income increases. If you and your spouse have a high combined income, you might get more benefit from maxing out the FSA since you'll get less from the credit anyway. My accountant told me that for our income (around $125k), we're better off maxing the FSA first, then taking whatever credit we can get after that.

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Dylan Wright

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Is there a specific income threshold where the credit becomes completely worthless? We make about $180k combined and I'm wondering if we should even bother with the paperwork for the credit.

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There's no hard cutoff where the credit becomes completely worthless. It gradually decreases to a minimum of 20% of your eligible expenses as your income increases above $43,000. At your income level of $180k, you'd get the minimum credit percentage of 20%. So if you had eligible expenses that could be claimed (after accounting for FSA), you'd still get 20% of that amount as a credit. For example, if you had $3,000 in eligible expenses for one child (after FSA), you'd get a $600 credit (20% of $3,000), which is still worth claiming.

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NebulaKnight

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Does anyone know if you can split the expenses? Like could I put $3000 in the FSA and claim $3000 for the tax credit (with my $12000 total daycare cost)? Would that be better than maxing out the FSA first?

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Yes, you can split your expenses that way! Whether it's better depends on your tax bracket. The FSA gives you savings at your marginal tax rate (plus FICA taxes of 7.65%). So if you're in the 22% federal bracket, you save about 29.65% on money put in the FSA. The Dependent Care Credit for one child maxes at $3000 of expenses, and the percentage varies from 20-35% based on income. If your income puts you at the 20% credit rate, you'd be better off putting more in the FSA. If you qualify for a higher percentage, you might be better off with the strategy you suggested.

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Ezra Beard

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@Andre Moreau - I was in almost the exact same situation last year! With one child and $12k in daycare costs, here's what I learned: Since you have one child, the dependent care tax credit is limited to $3,000 in expenses. If you put the full $5,000 in your FSA, you've already exceeded that $3,000 limit, so you won't be able to claim any tax credit. Here's what might work better for you: Put $3,000 in the FSA and keep $3,000 available for the tax credit. Whether this is optimal depends on your income level. The FSA saves you money at your marginal tax rate plus FICA (about 29.65% if you're in the 22% bracket), while the dependent care credit ranges from 20-35% based on income. If you're at higher income levels, the FSA might give you better savings. If you're at lower income levels, the credit percentage could be higher than your tax savings from the FSA. Given that you mentioned your husband makes more than you and you've had IRS issues before, I'd definitely recommend running the numbers both ways or consulting with a tax professional to make sure you're maximizing your benefit without any complications!

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MidnightRider

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This is really helpful breakdown! As someone new to navigating both FSAs and tax credits, I'm wondering - is there an easy way to calculate which split would be most beneficial before making the FSA election? I don't want to lock myself into the wrong contribution amount and then realize I made a mistake when tax time comes around. Also, @Andre Moreau mentioned having had IRS issues before - would using both benefits in the same year potentially trigger any extra scrutiny or audits?

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