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Andre Lefebvre

Can I claim Child Care Credit with DCFSA for one child? Tax filing confusion

Hi there tax people! I'm currently doing our taxes with TurboTax and I'm really confused about this whole child care credit situation. My wife and I are filing jointly, and we have a 3-year-old daughter. Through my employer, we've been putting the maximum $5,000 into a Dependent Care FSA (DCFSA) last year. Our total daycare costs for our daughter were around $7,800 for the year (childcare is so expensive these days!). I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that since we're already getting the tax benefit from the DCFSA contributions, and we only have one child, we can't claim any additional child care credit on our taxes. But I want to double check because maybe I can claim the difference between our actual expenses ($7,800) and the DCFSA amount ($5,000)? Can someone confirm if I'm understanding this correctly? Or am I missing something that could get us a bigger refund? We're trying to finish our taxes this weekend. Thanks in advance for any help!

You've got a good understanding of how this works! With your situation, you actually CAN claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit for the expenses that exceed your DCFSA contributions. Here's how it works: The maximum expenses you can use for calculating the credit is $3,000 for one qualifying dependent. Since you've already used $5,000 in your DCFSA (which is pre-tax), you've actually exceeded this $3,000 limit for credit calculation purposes. However, if your expenses were higher - like the $7,800 you mentioned - you would be able to claim the difference between your DCFSA ($5,000) and your actual expenses ($7,800), but only up to the $3,000 limit per child. Since that difference is $2,800, that's what you could potentially use for the credit calculation. The credit percentage depends on your adjusted gross income and could be anywhere from 20% to 35% of your eligible expenses. Just make sure you don't "double-dip" by claiming expenses already covered by your DCFSA.

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This is confusing me - I thought the credit limit was $3,000 for one child but you're saying they've already exceeded it with the $5,000 DCFSA? My tax preparer told me something different last year. Could you explain the $3,000 limit vs the $5,000 DCFSA max a little more clearly?

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You're right to ask for clarification! The two programs have different limits. The DCFSA has a household limit of $5,000 regardless of how many qualifying dependents you have. This is money set aside pre-tax through your employer. The Child and Dependent Care Credit has a limit of $3,000 in qualifying expenses for one dependent (or $6,000 for two or more). When you use both programs, you need to subtract your DCFSA contributions from your total expenses to determine what's left for the credit. Since the OP already used $5,000 in DCFSA funds, and the credit only allows $3,000 for one child, they've already exceeded the credit limit through their DCFSA. If they had two children ($6,000 credit limit) or higher expenses, there might be room to claim additional expenses for the credit.

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This might be a bit of a tangent, but if your employer offers DCFSA, make sure you're maxing it out! My wife and I didn't realize we could be contributing pre-tax dollars to this and we missed out on significant tax savings for 2 years. For those in higher tax brackets, this can save you over $1,500 a year depending on your federal, state, and local tax rates. Also, just a heads up that the 2025 DCFSA limit is increasing to $5,100 per household (up from $5,000), so adjust your elections accordingly if you're still in the daycare phase!

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Does the money in DCFSA roll over year to year? I'm pregnant with my first and trying to plan ahead for next year's childcare expenses.

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No, DCFSA funds generally don't roll over - it's a "use it or lose it" account, unlike HSAs which do roll over. Some plans offer a grace period (usually until March 15 of the following year) or allow you to carry over a small amount (around $550), but that varies by employer. Since you're planning for a new baby, I'd recommend being a bit conservative with your election for the first year since childcare needs can be unpredictable. You can always max it out in future years once you have a better handle on your exact expenses. Congratulations on your upcoming addition to the family!

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Hold up - I think there's still some confusion here. The Child and Dependent Care Credit and DCFSA interaction is more nuanced than some are saying. If you have $7,800 in actual expenses and contributed $5,000 to DCFSA, you CAN claim part of the difference for the credit. The calculation works like this: 1. Maximum expenses considered for one child: $3,000 2. You paid $7,800 total 3. You already got tax benefit on $5,000 via DCFSA 4. Remaining expenses: $2,800 5. Since $2,800 is less than the $3,000 max for one child, you can use the full $2,800 for calculating your credit The credit percentage depends on your income, but even at the minimum 20% rate, that would be a $560 credit!

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But isnt there some kinda income phaseout? My tax guy told me once you make over like 125k you basically get nothing from this credit anymore.

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Late to the party but just wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone who contributed to this thread! I've been filing my taxes wrong for the past 2 years because my tax guy didn't understand how DCFSA and the Child Care Credit interact. We have twins and spend about $14k on childcare annually. We max out our DCFSA at $5k, but I had no idea we could claim the additional expenses (up to $6k total for two kids) for the Care Credit. Just amended my 2023 return and will be getting back over $1,200! This is why I love reddit - learn something new every day that actually saves real money. Checking out that taxr.ai thing too, sounds like it might be useful for some other questions I have.

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Great question Andre! You're mostly right but there's actually a bit more nuance here that could benefit you. With one child, the Child and Dependent Care Credit allows up to $3,000 in qualifying expenses, while your DCFSA maxes out at $5,000. Since you contributed the full $5,000 to your DCFSA, you've actually exceeded the $3,000 credit limit already. However, here's where it gets interesting - if your total childcare expenses were $7,800 and you used $5,000 through DCFSA, you have $2,800 in remaining expenses. Since this is under the $3,000 limit for one child, you could potentially claim a credit on that $2,800! The credit percentage ranges from 20-35% based on your AGI, so even at the minimum rate you'd be looking at a $560 credit ($2,800 × 20%). Not a huge amount but definitely worth claiming if you qualify income-wise. Just make sure when you're entering this into TurboTax that you're not double-counting the expenses you already got the tax benefit from through your DCFSA. The software should guide you through this, but it's good to understand the mechanics behind it!

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