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Sasha Ivanov

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my multi-member LLC that owns rental properties. One additional consideration I'd like to add: if your partnership is making the Section 754 election, it can significantly impact how depreciation is calculated and reported on Form 8825, especially when partners change their ownership percentages or when new partners are admitted. The Section 754 election allows the partnership to adjust the basis of partnership property when there are transfers of partnership interests or distributions. This can affect the depreciation amounts that flow through to individual partners on their K-1s. If you're not familiar with this election, it's worth discussing with your tax professional, especially if you anticipate any changes in partnership structure. Also, regarding the multi-state issues mentioned earlier - I found that the Federation of Tax Administrators website has a good state-by-state breakdown of partnership filing requirements. Each state's Department of Revenue website also typically has specific guidance for multi-state partnerships. For those considering the AI tax services or IRS callback services mentioned above, I'd also recommend checking if your state has similar callback services. Some states have implemented their own versions for state tax questions, which can be just as valuable as getting federal guidance. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that's hard to find elsewhere!

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Mateo Perez

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Thank you for bringing up the Section 754 election! That's definitely an advanced consideration that many people overlook. I'm relatively new to partnership taxation and hadn't heard of this election before. Could you explain a bit more about when it would make sense to make this election? Our partnership currently has stable ownership percentages, but we're considering bringing in a new partner next year to help fund additional property acquisitions. Would that be a situation where the Section 754 election might be beneficial? Also really appreciate the tip about the Federation of Tax Administrators website - I'll definitely check that out before we expand to other states. It sounds like there are so many layers to partnership taxation that I'm just starting to discover! As someone new to this community and partnership taxation in general, I have to say this entire thread has been incredibly educational. The level of detailed, practical advice here is amazing. Thank you all for taking the time to share your experiences and knowledge!

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Yuki Tanaka

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Wow, this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation - multi-member LLC with rental properties and I've been going in circles trying to figure out the proper reporting structure. What really helped me understand this was the explanation that Form 8825 is essentially like a "rental property Schedule E" that attaches to the partnership return. That mental framework makes so much sense! Our previous CPA also put property depreciation directly on Form 1065, so it sounds like this is a common mistake. I'm particularly interested in the Section 754 election that @Sasha Ivanov mentioned. Our partnership is stable now, but we're planning to add properties and potentially new partners over the next few years. It sounds like this election could be important for our situation, but I need to research it more. One question I haven't seen addressed: if we're using bonus depreciation on any of our rental properties (like for qualifying improvements), does that also get reported on Form 8825? I assume it would follow the same rule as regular depreciation, but I want to make sure before filing. Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this discussion - the practical advice here is so much better than anything I've found in official publications or general tax guides!

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Mei Chen

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Yes, bonus depreciation for rental property improvements would also be reported on Form 8825, following the same logic as regular depreciation. Since the improvements are directly related to the rental property (not the management business), they belong on the 8825 regardless of whether you're using regular depreciation, bonus depreciation, or Section 179 expensing. Just keep in mind that bonus depreciation rules have changed over the years and are being phased down. For 2023, you can generally take 80% bonus depreciation on qualifying property, and it drops to 60% for 2024. Make sure your tax software or preparer is calculating this correctly based on the placed-in-service dates of your improvements. Also, since you mentioned planning to add properties and partners, I'd definitely recommend researching that Section 754 election sooner rather than later. It's one of those elections that's easier to make proactively rather than trying to figure out retroactively when you need it. A good partnership tax advisor can help you model whether it makes sense for your specific situation. Welcome to the community! It's great to see newcomers asking thoughtful questions and contributing to these discussions.

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Don't forget that if you trade micro e-minis or other small futures contracts, the wash sale rules don't apply like they do with stocks! This is a huge advantage for futures traders. You can take your losses in December to offset income and then jump right back into the same positions in January without triggering wash sale rules.

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Yara Campbell

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Are you sure about that? I thought Section 1256 contracts were totally exempt from wash sale rules regardless of contract size. My tax guy told me this was one of the main benefits of futures over stock trading.

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You're absolutely right to start gathering this information early! As someone who went through this same situation last year, here's what I wish I had known: Your tax preparer will definitely need the 1099 from Tradovate, but they'll also need to complete Form 6781 (Gains and Losses From Section 1256 Contracts and Straddles) to properly report your futures trading losses. The good news is that since you're using a professional tax preparer, they should handle all the form preparation - you just need to provide them with the documentation. Make sure to bring not just the 1099, but also any monthly statements from Tradovate showing your trading activity. Sometimes the 1099s can have errors, so having backup documentation is always smart. One advantage you have with futures losses is that they're marked-to-market at year-end, meaning any open positions are treated as if they were closed on December 31st. This can actually be beneficial for tax planning purposes. Since you mentioned you're new to filing with trading activity, I'd suggest having a brief conversation with your tax preparer about futures trading taxes before your appointment. Most good preparers are familiar with Section 1256 contracts, but it's worth confirming they have experience with trading taxes to avoid any surprises.

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NightOwl42

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the mark-to-market treatment you mentioned. Since I'm still pretty new to futures trading, does this mean if I have open positions at the end of December, they'll be taxed as if I closed them even though I didn't actually sell? And if so, would any gains or losses from those phantom closes affect my actual trading when I continue holding the positions into the new year?

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Yara Sabbagh

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Just want to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation last year. You're absolutely right that withdrawing Roth contributions is tax and penalty-free, but the reporting aspect can be tricky if you're not prepared. The key thing I learned is that your IRA custodian will send you Form 1099-R showing the total distribution, but they have no way of knowing whether you withdrew contributions or earnings - that's entirely on you to track and report correctly via Form 8606. My advice: before you make any withdrawal, create a simple record of all your historical contributions. I went through my old tax returns (look for Form 5498 from previous years) and account statements to build a complete picture. This made filing Form 8606 much less stressful when tax time came around. Also, definitely explore that EAP option first! Many people don't realize their employers offer emergency financial assistance. I was able to get a small interest-free loan through my company's program, which let me keep my Roth IRA intact. Your future self will thank you for preserving that tax-free growth space if you can find another solution for the $1500.

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Alana Willis

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find! As someone new to retirement accounts, I had no idea about Form 5498 or that I'd need to be so proactive about tracking my own contribution history. I'm curious - when you say you went through your old tax returns to find Form 5498, is that something that gets filed with your return or just sent to you by the IRA custodian? I want to make sure I'm looking in the right place for my records. Also, did you find any discrepancies between what your custodian reported and what you thought you had contributed? The EAP route sounds like such a smart first step. It's amazing how many workplace benefits people don't even know they have access to. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this process!

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Sydney Torres

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Form 5498 is sent to you by your IRA custodian (usually by May 31st of the following year) and also reported to the IRS, but you don't actually file it with your tax return - it's just for your records. So you'd find it in your tax documents folder or wherever you keep your annual IRA paperwork, not in your actual filed tax return. In my case, I did find one small discrepancy where I had made a contribution in December that I thought counted for the previous tax year, but it actually got allocated to the current year by my custodian. Having Form 5498 from each year helped me reconcile the exact timing and amounts. Pro tip: if you can't find your old Form 5498s, most custodians can provide copies through their website or customer service. Fidelity, Vanguard, etc. usually have these going back several years in your online account. Just log in and look for "Tax Documents" or "Annual Statements." This saved me a lot of time versus trying to dig through old paperwork! The EAP really was a game-changer - I ended up getting a 0% interest loan for 6 months that I could pay back through payroll deduction. Definitely worth a conversation with HR before touching your retirement savings.

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Brielle Johnson

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation where I might need to tap into my Roth IRA for an emergency expense, and I was completely unaware of the Form 8606 requirement. One thing I'm wondering about - if you've made contributions to multiple Roth IRAs (like I have one with Fidelity and another with Vanguard from a previous job), do you need to aggregate all your contributions across all accounts when calculating what you can withdraw tax-free? Or does each account get treated separately? Also, @Diego Mendoza, definitely check out that EAP suggestion! I used my company's emergency assistance program a few years ago and it was a lifesaver. Many people don't even know these programs exist. Sometimes they offer grants (not loans) for certain hardship situations, which would be even better than touching your retirement savings. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice you can't easily find elsewhere!

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Great question about multiple Roth IRAs! You actually need to aggregate contributions across ALL your Roth IRA accounts when determining your contribution basis. The IRS treats all your Roth IRAs as one big account for withdrawal purposes, even if they're held at different custodians. So if you contributed $3,000 to your Fidelity Roth and $2,000 to your Vanguard Roth over the years, your total contribution basis is $5,000 across both accounts. You can withdraw up to that full $5,000 from either account (or split between them) without taxes or penalties. This is why keeping good records across all your accounts is so important! When you fill out Form 8606, you'll need to report your total contributions from all Roth IRAs, not just the one you're withdrawing from. I learned this the hard way when I had to track down contribution histories from three different custodians. Also seconding the EAP advice - it's amazing how many companies offer these programs but don't publicize them well. Definitely worth exploring before touching any retirement savings!

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I went through this exact same situation last year and it was so confusing! The key thing to understand is that TurboTax is trying to help you optimize your tax situation, not trick you into claiming something wrong. Here's what's happening: When your scholarships/grants (Box 5) exceed your qualified education expenses (Box 1), you have flexibility in how to allocate those funds. By telling TurboTax that some of your scholarship money went to room and board, you're making that portion taxable income BUT you're also freeing up more of your qualified expenses to count toward the American Opportunity Credit. The math usually works out in your favor - you might pay a little tax on the scholarship money used for room and board, but the increased AOTC more than makes up for it. Just make sure you actually did have room and board expenses equal to what you're claiming the scholarship covered. One tip: Keep good records of all your education-related expenses (tuition, fees, books, room, board) so you can confidently answer these allocation questions. The IRS allows you to choose how to allocate scholarship funds as long as you're truthful about your actual expenses.

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Yara Abboud

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This is such a helpful explanation! I'm a first-time filer dealing with this exact situation and was terrified I was doing something wrong. Your point about keeping records is really important - I actually have all my receipts and statements saved, so I feel more confident now about answering those TurboTax questions accurately. It's reassuring to know that the software is trying to help optimize things rather than set traps. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Dylan Wright

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I just went through this exact same situation with my 1098-T! I was so confused at first too, but after reading through all these responses and doing some research, I finally understand what's happening. The key insight is that when Box 5 (scholarships/grants) exceeds Box 1 (qualified education expenses), you get to choose how to allocate those scholarship funds. TurboTax is asking about room and board because if you designate some of your scholarship money as going toward room and board, that portion becomes taxable income - BUT it also means more of your out-of-pocket qualified expenses can count toward the American Opportunity Credit. It's counterintuitive, but paying a little tax on the "room and board scholarship" often results in a much larger tax credit. In my case, I ended up with about $1,200 more in refund even after accounting for the extra taxable income. The most important thing is to make sure you actually had room and board expenses that match what you're telling TurboTax. As long as you're being honest about your actual expenses, you have the flexibility to optimize how you allocate your scholarship funds. Don't be afraid to use this strategy - it's completely legitimate and the IRS expects students to make these kinds of allocation decisions!

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This is exactly the explanation I needed! I'm dealing with the same Box 5 > Box 1 situation and was so worried about making a mistake. Your point about it being counterintuitive but legitimate really helps - I kept thinking there had to be a catch. Did you have to provide any documentation to support your room and board allocation, or does TurboTax just take your word for it when you enter the amounts? I have all my housing receipts and meal plan statements, but I'm not sure if I need to attach them or just keep them for my records.

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So if I'm e-filing do I still need to sign anything physically? This is my first time using tax software instead of paper forms and I'm confused about the whole signature process when it's all online.

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Klaus Schmidt

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For e-filing, you'll create an electronic signature using a Self-Select PIN instead of physically signing. Usually the tax software will ask you to enter a 5-digit number of your choosing plus some identity verification info (like your AGI from last year's return or your date of birth). This PIN acts as your signature.

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Don't feel embarrassed about asking this question! I went through the exact same confusion when I filed my first US tax return a few years ago. Those arrow stickers are just guides - you sign directly on the actual signature line on the form, not on the stickers themselves. Your normal signature that you use for bank documents, contracts, etc. is perfectly fine. The IRS isn't looking for calligraphy - they just need a consistent signature that matches what you'd use on other official documents. One thing that helped me was to practice signing my name a few times on scrap paper first, just to make sure I was comfortable with how it looked. And yes, make sure to date it too! The IRS is pretty reasonable about signature variations - they're mainly concerned that you're acknowledging responsibility for the accuracy of your return. You've got this! First-time filing is always nerve-wracking, but you're being smart by asking questions beforehand.

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Diego Rojas

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This is such great advice! I'm also a first-time filer and was getting really stressed about the signature thing too. It's reassuring to hear that the IRS isn't expecting perfection. I like your idea about practicing on scrap paper first - I might do that just to build my confidence. Did you have any issues with your first return, or did everything go smoothly once you got past the signature anxiety?

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