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I've been following this thread and wanted to add my perspective as someone who dealt with a very similar LTR 916C situation. The frustration you're feeling is completely understandable - these notices are poorly written and don't explain the IRS's reasoning clearly. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that sometimes the issue isn't with your Form 8379 at all, but with how your original joint return was processed. I discovered that the IRS had incorrectly entered some of my W-2 information when they processed our return, which threw off the entire injured spouse calculation. They allocated income to my husband that was actually mine, making it look like I deserved a smaller portion of the refund. The key for me was getting a wage and income transcript (different from the account transcript) which shows exactly what W-2 and 1099 information the IRS has on file for both you and your spouse. You can request this online at the same time you get your account transcript. Compare this to your actual tax documents - if there are discrepancies, that could be the source of your problem. Also, don't be afraid to escalate if the first IRS representative you speak with can't help. Ask to speak with a supervisor or someone in the injured spouse unit specifically. The regular customer service reps often don't understand these complex allocation issues as well as the specialists do.
This is such valuable insight that I hadn't considered! The idea that the problem might not be with my Form 8379 but with how the original return was processed is eye-opening. I was so focused on thinking I must have made an error on the injured spouse form itself. The wage and income transcript sounds like a crucial piece of the puzzle - I didn't even know that existed separately from the account transcript. If they incorrectly entered my W-2 information and allocated my income to my husband, that would definitely explain why they think I'm entitled to much less of the refund. Your point about escalating to speak with someone in the injured spouse unit specifically is really helpful too. I was dreading calling the IRS because I figured I'd just get bounced around to different representatives who wouldn't understand the issue. Knowing that there are specialists who deal specifically with these allocation problems gives me more confidence about making that call. I'm adding the wage and income transcript to my list of documents to request. Between that, the account transcript, and comparing everything to my original tax documents, hopefully I can pinpoint exactly where things went wrong. Thank you for sharing this additional perspective - it's given me a whole new angle to investigate!
I've been reading through this entire thread and I'm amazed at how helpful everyone's experiences have been! As someone who's currently dealing with my own LTR 916C nightmare, seeing all these different perspectives and solutions has been incredibly valuable. What strikes me most is how common this issue seems to be with injured spouse claims, yet the IRS notices are so poorly written that they leave you completely in the dark about what went wrong. The two-stage processing system explanation makes so much sense - no wonder we get refunds and then confusing "overpayment" notices weeks later. I'm taking notes on all the suggestions here: requesting both account transcripts AND wage/income transcripts, checking for income allocation errors, verifying dependent claiming issues, and making sure tax credits were split correctly. The tools and services people have mentioned (taxr.ai, Claimyr) also sound worth exploring if I can't get anywhere with the IRS directly. The most encouraging thing is seeing how many people have successfully challenged these calculations and gotten them corrected. It's given me the motivation to fight this instead of just accepting what feels like an unfair determination. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with injured spouse claim issues!
I know everyone's focusing on the 401k withdrawal, but don't forget about that HSA issue! If those were qualified medical expenses for childbirth, you should NOT be taxed on that distribution. Make sure you have documentation for all those medical expenses and include that with your amended return too.
This! My wife and I had a baby in 2020 too and used our HSA. Make sure you have all the EOBs (explanations of benefits) from your insurance company and any receipts. The IRS is pretty strict about HSA documentation.
Benjamin, I feel for you - this situation is stressful but definitely fixable! Everyone's given you great advice about the amended return and Form 8915-E. I went through something similar and here are a few additional tips: 1. When you file your amended return, make sure to clearly mark it as "COVID-related distribution" on Form 8915-E. This is crucial for getting that 10% penalty removed. 2. For the HSA withdrawal, gather EVERYTHING - hospital bills, doctor visits, prescription receipts, even parking receipts if you kept them. The IRS wants to see that every penny was for qualified medical expenses. 3. Consider making estimated tax payments while your amendment is being processed. This shows good faith and can help reduce interest charges. 4. Don't panic about the timeline - you're well within the 3-year window for amending. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable when people come forward to fix honest mistakes like this. The key is acting quickly and being thorough with your documentation. You caught this before it got worse, which is really important. Keep us posted on how it goes!
Check if you have any existing disputes or alerts on your credit report that might be blocking the verification. Also, make sure your name and address in TurboTax exactly match what's on your credit file - even small differences like "St" vs "Street" can cause failures. You might need to call TurboTax support directly since this seems to be affecting multiple people.
This is really helpful advice! I had a similar issue last year and it turned out my middle initial was missing in one system but present in the other. These verification systems are super picky about exact matches. @Diego Fisher is right about calling support - they can usually see what specific error is causing the block on their end.
I went through this exact same thing last month! What finally worked for me was temporarily unfreezing all three credit bureaus (Experian, Equifax, TransUnion) for 24 hours, then trying the Credit Karma account creation again. The verification process needs to ping all of them and if even one is frozen it'll fail. Also double-check that your SSN, DOB, and address in TurboTax match exactly what's on your credit reports - no abbreviations or nicknames. Good luck!
One trick that worked for me: look at the amounts on those mystery 1099Bs. If they're for small amounts (like under $10), they might be from fractional share dividends or micro-investments. I found that Acorns, Robinhood and some dividend reinvestment plans generate separate 1099s with different TINs than the main investment platform.
Makes sense. I noticed a few tiny 1099Bs on mine that were around $2-5. Could definitely be from those free stock promotions that were popular a few years ago. Totally forgot I had signed up for several of those!
Another angle to consider - if you've done any cryptocurrency trading, those mystery 1099Bs might be from crypto exchanges or their payment processors. Many crypto platforms use third-party companies for fiat transactions, and these often have completely different TINs than the main exchange. I had this exact situation with Coinbase - turns out they use different entities for different types of transactions, and some of my crypto-to-USD conversions showed up as separate 1099Bs with TINs I didn't recognize. Check if any of the amounts or dates align with crypto activity you might have forgotten about. Also, don't overlook employer stock purchase plans or 401k brokerages - these often use specialized clearing firms that report separately from your main retirement account provider.
This is really helpful! I completely forgot about my old Coinbase account from 2021. Looking back at my transcript, there are definitely some small amounts that could match crypto transactions I made. The dates seem to align with when I was experimenting with cryptocurrency before losing interest. Do you know if there's a way to get historical transaction data from Coinbase to match against the IRS transcript? I'm worried I might have deleted the emails with my 1099s from that period since I thought I was done with crypto trading.
Sophia Gabriel
This thread has been absolutely invaluable! As someone new to both this community and the world of S-Corp sales, I'm incredibly grateful for all the real-world experiences shared here. I'm currently in preliminary discussions with a PE firm about selling my logistics S-Corp (valued around $2.7M), and they've also mentioned wanting an F Reorganization structure. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much more confidence in moving forward with this approach. The consistent pattern of substantial tax savings ($180K-$250K+ range) with relatively modest upfront legal costs ($12K-$15K) makes this structure very compelling. What really stands out is hearing from multiple people who've successfully navigated IRS audits - that tells me this is a legitimate, well-established approach rather than some aggressive tax strategy. I'm particularly impressed by how the structure seems to create a true win-win situation: sellers get capital gains treatment while buyers get their desired step-up in basis. The fact that the PE firm's need for the structure satisfies the business purpose requirement also simplifies things significantly. The emphasis on specialized M&A tax counsel versus general CPAs is crystal clear from everyone's feedback. I'm definitely going to prioritize finding an attorney who has extensive experience specifically with F Reorganizations rather than trying to rely on my regular CPA for something this complex. One thing I'm curious about - for those who mentioned the 10-12 week timeline, did this include the time needed to find and onboard the specialized tax counsel, or was that the timeline once you had your legal team in place? Thanks again to everyone for sharing such detailed, practical insights. This discussion has been more helpful than anything I've found through traditional research!
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Javier Torres
ā¢Welcome to the community, Sophia! This thread has been absolutely incredible - I'm so glad you're finding it helpful as you navigate your own S-Corp sale. To answer your question about the timeline: the 10-12 weeks typically refers to the period once you have your specialized tax counsel in place and begin the actual F Reorganization process. Finding and vetting the right attorney can take an additional 2-4 weeks, so I'd budget about 14-16 weeks total from start to finish. The key is starting the attorney search early, ideally as soon as you know the PE firm wants this structure. You want to interview multiple firms and check references rather than rushing into a decision. Given that you're looking at a $2.7M transaction, the potential tax savings make it worth taking the time to find the right expertise. Your logistics business should work really well with this structure - similar to the service-based and manufacturing companies others have mentioned. The fact that the PE firm is proactively suggesting the F Reorg is also a great sign about their sophistication and experience level. One suggestion: when you do start interviewing tax attorneys, ask specifically about their experience with logistics companies or similar asset-light businesses. While the F Reorg mechanics are similar across industries, having someone who understands your specific business model can be helpful for optimizing the overall structure. The win-win aspect you mentioned is exactly right - it's one of the beautiful things about this structure when executed properly. Both parties get their preferred tax treatment, which makes for much smoother negotiations overall. Best of luck with your transaction!
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Skylar Neal
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently considering a similar F Reorganization for my small tech consulting S-Corp (valued around $1.8M) that a PE firm wants to acquire. Reading through everyone's experiences, I'm struck by how consistently beneficial this structure seems to be when executed properly. The tax savings in the $180K-$250K+ range that multiple people have mentioned would be life-changing for a transaction of my size. I'm particularly encouraged by hearing from several people who've been through IRS audits of these structures with no issues. That gives me confidence this is a legitimate, well-established approach rather than some risky tax strategy. The emphasis on specialized M&A tax counsel is crystal clear from everyone's feedback. My regular CPA has been great for routine business taxes, but it's obvious I need someone who specifically handles these complex reorganizations. One question for the group: For those who worked with boutique M&A tax firms versus Big 4 firms, did you find any meaningful differences in expertise or service quality? I'm trying to decide whether to prioritize the specialized boutique route that several people mentioned or go with a larger firm that might have more resources. Also, the 10-12 week timeline mentioned by multiple people actually works perfectly with our proposed closing schedule, which is reassuring. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences - this discussion has provided more practical insight than weeks of research through generic tax resources!
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