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Ava Kim

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Does anyone know if tuition reimbursement for a master's degree would also show up in Box 14? My company pays for my MBA classes but I don't see anything on my W-2 about it...should I be worried they're not reporting it correctly?

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It should definitely be reported somewhere if they're paying for your MBA. Check if they included it in Box 1 wages (making it fully taxable), or maybe they're reporting it on a 1098-T form instead. I'd ask your payroll department ASAP because if they paid over $5,250 for the year, the excess should be taxable.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations about Box 14! I've been dealing with something similar and this thread has been incredibly helpful. Just to add another perspective - I work in payroll for a mid-size company and we do put educational assistance in Box 14 with various codes (sometimes "EDU", sometimes "EDUC" or "TUITION"). We're required to report it there even when it's not taxable, mainly for record-keeping purposes and to show employees what benefits they received during the year. The key thing to remember is that if your educational benefit was properly excluded from your Box 1 wages AND it's under the $5,250 annual limit, then you're all set - no additional reporting needed on your tax return. If you're ever unsure, comparing your final paystub totals to your W-2 Box 1 amount can help you verify everything was handled correctly. @Yuki Tanaka - since you mentioned this is your first year with the university, definitely keep track of these benefits throughout the year so you know where you stand relative to that $5,250 limit!

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This is really helpful insight from someone who actually works in payroll! I had no idea that companies use different codes for the same thing. @Keith Davidson - do you know if there are any best practices for how payroll departments should code these items, or is it really just up to each company to decide? It seems like it would be less confusing for employees if there was some standardization. Also, your tip about comparing the final paystub to Box 1 is brilliant - I never thought to cross-check that way to make sure everything was handled correctly.

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add something that might be helpful for your situation. Since you mentioned you've been contributing to the ESOP for 5 years, there's another angle worth exploring that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet. Some ESOPs have what's called "diversification rights" that kick in after you've been a participant for a certain number of years (often 5+ years) and reached a certain age. Even if you haven't reached the typical retirement age, these rights sometimes allow you to diversify a portion of your ESOP account into other investments without the same withdrawal penalties. This isn't the same as taking cash out, but it could give you access to funds through a diversification distribution that might have different tax treatment than a standard early withdrawal. The diversified amount could potentially be rolled into an IRA, giving you more flexibility for penalty-free withdrawals under various circumstances. Also, I'd recommend specifically asking your plan administrator about any "in-service distribution" options beyond just hardship withdrawals. Some plans allow limited distributions after certain service periods that might not be well-documented in the standard materials. Given all the great advice in this thread about negotiating medical bills, using EAP services, and timing strategies, you're definitely on the right track to minimize the financial impact. The combination of reducing the actual medical expenses AND optimizing the withdrawal strategy could make this much more manageable than that initial 40% tax hit you were facing.

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This is really valuable information about diversification rights! I had no idea that was even a possibility with ESOPs. I'm definitely going to ask my plan administrator specifically about this - it sounds like it could provide a much better path than a straight withdrawal if my plan offers it. The concept of being able to diversify into other investments and then potentially roll those into an IRA for more flexible access is really intriguing. Even if it doesn't solve my immediate cash flow needs, it might give me better options for future financial planning. I'm also going to ask about all the in-service distribution options when I call. It sounds like there might be several different types of distributions available that aren't clearly explained in the basic plan materials. Between this suggestion and all the other strategies mentioned in this thread - negotiating medical bills, using EAP services, timing the withdrawal strategically, and maximizing medical expense documentation - I feel like I have a much more comprehensive approach now. Thank you for adding this perspective! It's clear that ESOP rules are much more nuanced than I initially realized, and there might be options available that could significantly improve my situation beyond just the standard hardship withdrawal route.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I've been dealing with a similar ESOP situation recently and wanted to share a few additional considerations that might help based on what I learned from working with our benefits team. One thing I discovered is that some companies have "bridge loan" programs specifically for employees facing medical hardships. These are separate from standard ESOP loans and are designed to help you avoid early withdrawal penalties while you explore other options. My company had this buried in their benefits portal - it wasn't something HR actively promoted, but when I specifically asked about alternatives to ESOP withdrawals for medical emergencies, they pointed me to it. Also, if you're considering the medical expense exception route, make sure you understand how it interacts with any Health Savings Account contributions or medical expense itemizations on your taxes. There can be some complex coordination rules that affect which expenses count toward the 7.5% AGI threshold versus which ones provide other tax benefits. One timing consideration I hadn't seen mentioned - if you're planning to use the medical expense exception, the IRS is pretty strict about the expenses being "unreimbursed." So if you have any pending insurance claims or potential reimbursements from other sources, make sure those are resolved before you finalize your withdrawal calculations. I almost made the mistake of including expenses that were later covered by a secondary insurance policy I'd forgotten about. The conversation about state-specific rules is spot on too. Some states also have their own medical expense exceptions or different AGI calculations that could work in your favor. Worth researching before you commit to the federal approach.

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This AGI mismatch issue is driving me crazy too! I've been dealing with the same rejection for over a week now. What's really frustrating is that I triple-checked my 2023 AGI from line 11 and it's definitely correct. I even pulled up my PDF copy and compared it character by character. I'm seeing a lot of people mention trying $0 as the prior year AGI - that seems counterintuitive but if it works, I'll definitely give it a shot. Has anyone figured out WHY this is happening so much this year? Like is it a system-wide IRS glitch or something with TurboTax specifically? I'm also curious about those transcript services people are mentioning. Might be worth it just to see what the IRS actually has on file vs what I think they should have. This whole situation is making me want to switch tax software next year honestly.

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Caleb Stone

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I feel your pain! I've been lurking here trying to figure out my own AGI rejection issue. From what I'm seeing, it seems like there's definitely something systemically wrong this year - way too many people having the exact same problem for it to be coincidental. The $0 trick does sound weird but I'm seeing so many success stories that I'm convinced it's legit. I think what's happening is the IRS made backend adjustments to people's 2023 returns that we never got notified about, so their system expects a different AGI than what's on our copies. Those transcript services like taxr.ai that people keep mentioning might be the fastest way to figure out what's actually going on. Beats spending hours guessing or waiting on hold with the IRS! Let me know if the $0 thing works for you - I'm about to try it myself tonight.

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Philip Cowan

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This AGI mismatch rejection is such a widespread issue this filing season! I went through this exact same frustration a few weeks ago. After trying everything - double-checking my 2023 AGI multiple times, creating an IRS online account, even calling their helpline (total waste of time) - what finally worked was the $0 trick that several people mentioned here. I know it sounds completely backwards to enter $0 when you KNOW your AGI is correct, but apparently the IRS systems are expecting this if they made any backend adjustments to your 2023 return that you weren't notified about. It's like their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing. If the $0 doesn't work, I'd definitely recommend checking out those transcript analysis tools people mentioned or using a service to actually get through to an IRS agent. Sometimes there are weird system glitches that only they can see and fix on their end. Don't let TurboTax drive you crazy - this isn't your fault and it's definitely fixable! The IRS e-file system has been a hot mess this year but your refund will come through once you get past this hurdle.

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Zane Gray

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Thank you for this reassurance! It's so frustrating when you know you're entering the right information but the system keeps rejecting it. I'm definitely going to try the $0 trick tonight - it's crazy that this workaround is even necessary but if it gets my return accepted I don't care how backwards it seems! It's really helpful to hear from so many people who've been through this exact same issue. Makes me feel like I'm not going insane dealing with these IRS system glitches. Fingers crossed the $0 works and I can finally get this return submitted! šŸ¤ž

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Rachel Clark

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I had this exact same worry when my license expired right before tax season! Filed anyway and had absolutely no problems. The IRS doesn't verify license expiration dates - they just use the number for identity matching. You're totally safe to file now and just renew your license when convenient. Don't let this delay your refund!

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Thank you so much for this! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now and was really stressing about it. It's so helpful to hear from multiple people who've been through this successfully. I feel much more confident about filing now instead of waiting weeks for a DMV appointment. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here! šŸ™

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I'm a bit confused about something - if the driver's license number is what matters for identity verification, what happens if you've moved states and gotten a completely new license number? Would that cause issues with the IRS if your previous returns had a different DL number on them? Just wondering since I might be relocating soon and want to make sure I understand how this all works.

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ShadowHunter

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One more thing nobody mentioned - make sure both W-2s have the correct "retirement plan" box checked if you contribute to a 401k or similar. I had a mid-year payroll switch and one W-2 had it checked but the other didn't, which messed up my IRA contribution deduction eligibility.

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I had a similar issue! Also watch the Social Security wages box. When my company switched payroll providers mid-year, the second provider didn't know I had already hit the Social Security wage base limit, so they kept withholding Social Security taxes when they shouldn't have. Had to file for a refund of the excess.

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This is a really important point that often gets overlooked! I went through a similar mid-year payroll switch situation and learned the hard way that you need to verify ALL the boxes and year-to-date totals, not just the basic wage information. In addition to the retirement plan box and Social Security wages that others mentioned, also double-check: - State disability insurance (SDI) withholding limits if you're in CA, NY, or other states that have them - Any HSA contributions - make sure the annual limits aren't exceeded across both W-2s - Dependent care assistance program (DCAP) benefits if your company offers them The payroll providers often don't communicate these year-to-date limits to each other, so you could end up with over-withholding or under-withholding that creates tax complications later. I had to file amended returns because my HSA contributions were incorrectly reported as exceeding the annual limit when they were actually fine - it was just split across two W-2s.

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This is such valuable advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and hadn't even thought about the HSA contribution limits. My company switched from Paychex to their own internal system in August, and I've been contributing to my HSA all year through payroll deduction. I just realized I need to check that both W-2s don't show my full annual HSA contribution - if they both report the contributions for their respective periods incorrectly, it could look like I over-contributed when I actually stayed within the limits. Thanks for pointing this out, it could have saved me a lot of headache come tax time! Also wondering - for the dependent care assistance, is there a specific box on the W-2 I should be looking at? I've been using our company's DCAP benefit but I'm not sure how to verify it's being reported correctly across the two different payroll systems.

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