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Last year I paid $39.99 for TurboTax fees from my refund and it still went through SBTPG even though they already took their cut. I remember being surprised by this too! Ended up getting my refund 2 days after my DDD. I'm not sure I'd pay for a service just to call the IRS though - seems like an unnecessary expense when you already have a confirmed date.
I believe the Claimyr service might actually be worth considering in certain situations, particularly if there's any unexpected delay after your DDD passes. While it's probably not necessary right now since you have a confirmed date, it could potentially be helpful if, for instance, your deposit doesn't arrive within 3-5 business days after your DDD. Sometimes there can be unforeseen complications that might require speaking directly with an IRS representative, and in those cases, having a reliable way to reach them could save considerable time and stress.
Has anyone actually needed to call the IRS after getting a DDD? I always thought once you have a deposit date, it's basically guaranteed to arrive, no? What kinds of issues could even come up at that point that would require calling?
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I've had to call after getting a DDD when: • My bank rejected the deposit due to name mismatch (married filing jointly but account in single name) • SBTPG held the funds for "verification" for 5+ days • My refund amount was reduced but no explanation code appeared on transcript • DDD passed but no deposit appeared after 5 business days The IRS system is not infallible, and having a direct line to an agent can be crucial if you're in the small percentage of people who experience post-DDD issues.
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According to IRS Procedural Bulletin 2023-17, identity verification letters should be processed and mailed within 5 business days of the verification flag being placed on an account. However, due to the staffing shortages authorized under the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, this timeline has been extended to "up to 15 business days" for fiscal year 2024. Once you receive and complete verification, Internal Revenue Manual 21.5.6.4.11 specifies that refunds should be issued within 9 weeks, though in practice it's typically 2-3 weeks. If you're experiencing financial hardship, you can request expedited processing under Economic Hardship Provision 6343(a)(1)(D), though this requires additional documentation.
Thank you for breaking down the actual regulations! It's so helpful to understand what's supposed to happen versus what's actually happening. Makes me feel less crazy when dealing with these delays.
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Where exactly do you submit the hardship request? Is it a specific form or do you just tell the representative when you call?
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Just to clarify something important - when you get the identity verification letter, you have two options: verify online (if eligible) or call the special number on the letter (not the regular IRS number). Many people make the mistake of calling the main IRS line, which won't help with verification. The letter will tell you exactly which option(s) you qualify for. Also, your 45-day review period doesn't start until AFTER you've verified your identity, not from when you filed your return.
You might want to try accessing your transcript through the IRS Transcript Delivery System (TDS) instead of the regular Get Transcript function: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript. Sometimes the main transcript page shows N/A while the TDS has more current information. Also, check the Tax Return Database (TRDB) status through your tax software if you used one of the major providers - they sometimes have processing status information before it appears on the IRS systems.
I filed on April 15th at 4:30pm EST with a complex Schedule C return including home office deduction, mileage expenses, and QBI calculations. My transcript showed absolutely nothing for 31 days - not even an indication that I had filed. Then suddenly yesterday everything updated at once with a Direct Deposit Date (DDD) of next Wednesday. The IRS systems seem to batch-process the deadline filers rather than handling them in strict chronological order. The Cycle Code on my transcript is 20221905, which indicates it was processed in the 19th week of 2024 on a Friday batch run.
Would you mind sharing if you received any interim notices or letters during that 31-day waiting period? I'm trying to determine if complete silence is normal or if I should have received some kind of acknowledgment beyond my tax software's confirmation.
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This is super helpful! I have almost the exact same situation - filed April 15th with Schedule C and home office. Today is day 27 for me, so based on your experience, I should see movement within the next 4-5 days. Did your WMR update at the same time as your transcript or was there a lag between them?
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I just went through this exact situation! I completely forgot to file until June because my husband was in the hospital. I was panicking about penalties, but my neighbor (who's a retired accountant) told me not to worry. I filed on June 12th using TurboTax and got my refund by direct deposit on July 5th. No penalties, no issues whatsoever. The IRS doesn't penalize you when THEY owe YOU money - only the other way around. Just make sure you don't wait too long. While you have 3 years to claim a refund, why let the government hold your money interest-free? File as soon as you can!
Here's a step-by-step approach for your situation: 1. First, determine if you're truly owed a refund by completing your tax return 2. If you are owed a refund, you can file anytime within 3 years with no penalties 3. If you unexpectedly owe taxes, file immediately to minimize potential penalties 4. Consider using tax software that still supports 2023 returns (most major providers do until October) 5. Have your documents organized: 1099-R, SSA-1099, medical receipts, donation records 6. Double-check if you qualify for age-related tax benefits (over 65 standard deduction increase) 7. Don't forget to check your state tax requirements, which may differ from federal The community consensus is clear - if you're getting money back, there's no penalty for filing late. The IRS is much more concerned about collecting money owed to them than returning money owed to you.
Oh my goodness, I was so stressed about this exact situation last year! I ended up creating a whole binder system with tabs for every possible homeowner deduction! I worried myself sick about missing something important! What worked for me was scheduling an appointment with a local enrolled agent - not one of the big chains but an independent office. They charged me $175 but found deductions I never would have known about. I'm DEFINITELY using them again this year. The peace of mind was worth every penny!
Tax filing is like cooking dinner - you can do it yourself with basic ingredients, hire a personal chef (CPA), or get meal delivery (tax software). For a straightforward return with just homeowner status, mid-tier tax software is probably your best value. Think of it as the difference between buying a hammer to hang one picture versus hiring a contractor to build a whole house. Your situation doesn't sound complex enough to justify professional fees, but it's just complex enough that completely free options might miss some deductions.
I experienced an 810 Freeze Code on my Account Transcript last tax season. The code was accompanied by a TC 971 with Action Code 121, indicating potential identity theft concerns. I received a Letter 4883C approximately 10 days after the code appeared. After verifying my identity through the Identity Verification Service, the freeze was removed within 14 days, and my refund was processed 9 days later with interest. Be patient but proactive - monitor your mail carefully for the specific notice.
I've seen dozens of 810 code cases last year, and I need to warn you - this isn't always a quick fix. One client had an 810 code appear in April 2023, responded to the verification request immediately, and still didn't get resolution until November. The IRS claimed they never received the documents (despite confirmed delivery), and we had to resubmit everything twice. I'm not saying this will happen to you, but based on my experience, you should prepare for the possibility of a lengthy process.
I've seen this scenario play out dozens of times with clients. Here's what typically happens: Your original return will process normally with the refund issued on 5/1 as indicated by the 846 code. The amendment enters a completely separate processing queue and won't impact your original refund. However, I would recommend setting aside the original refund amount until the amendment finalizes (especially if it will result in you owing money). In my experience, the best approach would have been waiting for the original to process first, but you're not in a problematic situation - just a slightly more complex one.
Let me clarify what's happening with your situation: • The 846 code with date 5/1/24 means your original return is processing normally • Your refund from the original return will likely be issued on or around May 1st • Your amendment (1040-X) has entered a separate processing queue • Amendment processing typically takes 16-20 weeks currently • The two processes will run independently of each other This is actually a common scenario, though the agent's advice to amend immediately rather than wait was questionable. I would recommend keeping detailed records of both processes.
I've been through three identity verifications over the years (don't ask why 🙄), and each one was slightly different. Compared to a regular audit, which can take months, identity verification is usually resolved much faster. In my experience, the timeline for getting your refund after verification depends on what time of year it happens. Early season verifications (January-March) tend to process faster than mid-season ones. I had one in February that took 6 days after verification, but my friend who verified in April waited almost 3 weeks. The healthcare issue you mentioned is actually one of the most common triggers for verification because the Marketplace data and tax return data have to match exactly. Make sure you bring your Form 1095-A to the appointment - that's the form they'll want to see to resolve the healthcare discrepancy.
Has anyone noticed how the verification process seems to be getting more streamlined each year? When I had to verify in 2022, it was a nightmare that took weeks, but friends going through it this year are reporting much faster turnaround times. For your appointment, the key is being prepared with documentation. Think about it this way: what would you bring to get a new driver's license? That's the level of identity proof they're looking for. The questions are basic identity confirmation, not trying to trip you up. One thing nobody mentioned: if you have a joint return, both spouses should attend the verification appointment. I've seen cases where only one spouse went, and they had to schedule a second appointment for the other spouse, delaying everything by weeks.
TAS (Taxpayer Advocate Service) advocates def know what they're doing. They have special access to IRS systems and depts that reg taxpayers don't. When she says she's "sending it over," she's using her authority to move your amended return to the right team w/ a flag for expedited processing. I had a similar situation last yr - 570 code for months, got an advocate, and they fixed it within 3 wks. Your advocate is prob submitting an OAR (Operations Assistance Request) which is basically a formal request to the IRS to take action on your case. This is a good sign! The advocate will stay assigned to your case until resolution, so they'll keep checking on it even after "sending it over." Just be patient a bit longer - you're on the right track now.
Your advocate is escalating your case. This is good news. The 570 code means your return was selected for review. Your advocate reviewed it. Now she's sending it to processing. I had this happen in 2023. My amended return was stuck for 6 months. Got an advocate. They sent it over. Refund arrived 18 days later. Your timeline should be similar.
• But what if there's an underlying issue that caused the 570 code in the first place? • Will the advocate's intervention actually address that issue? • Does "sending it over" mean they've resolved whatever caused the hold? • Or are they just moving it to another department where it might still face the same review? I'm concerned that this might just be moving the return from one queue to another without actually resolving anything.
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This is so helpful compared to when I dealt with my amended return last year! My advocate never explained what they were doing, just kept saying "it's in process" for weeks. Understanding that "sending it over" means they've reviewed it and are now escalating it to processing makes so much more sense. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here - it's making the whole process much less mysterious.
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Laila Fury
I'm SO EXCITED to share that I actually did receive my amended return via direct deposit last month! I was shocked because everything online said it would be a check. The key difference was that I had included my banking information directly on the 1040-X form in the explanation section AND I attached a separate note requesting direct deposit due to frequent moves as a military family. I can't guarantee it will work for everyone, but it's worth checking your bank account on your DDD date just in case! The relief I felt when that money appeared in my account instead of waiting for a check was incredible.
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Geoff Richards
Think of amended return refunds like ordering a custom cake - they're handled differently than the pre-made ones in the display case. I received my amended return DDD in March, and like clockwork, a paper check arrived in my mailbox about 7 days later. Not a single penny went to my bank account, even though my original return was direct deposited. It's like the IRS is still living in the stone age for certain processes! I'd strongly recommend setting up mail forwarding ASAP, and maybe even having a trusted neighbor check your mailbox if you're moving soon. The last thing you want is your check sitting in a mailbox while you're halfway across the country moving to your new duty station.
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