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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking the dates and amounts of ALL money transfers both ways! I got audited last year because my uncle in Vietnam was sending me money from his business, and I couldn't properly document which portions were returns of my initial investment versus actual profit. The IRS assumed it was ALL taxable income because I couldn't prove otherwise. Cost me thousands in taxes plus penalties. Keep meticulous records of every transfer with notes about what each payment represents.
That's really helpful advice - thank you! What kind of documentation would you recommend I keep? Right now I'm just planning to save the wire transfer receipts, but should I be doing something more formal like writing up agreements with my grandfather?
Definitely save all wire transfer receipts, but that's just the beginning. You should create a simple investment agreement document (doesn't need to be fancy) that clearly states your initial investment amount and the terms for repayment. For each payment received, have your grandfather specify in writing (even just an email) what the payment represents - whether it's returning your initial capital, profit distribution, or a personal gift. Keep a running spreadsheet tracking the remaining balance of your initial investment so you can clearly show when you've been fully paid back and subsequent payments are profits.
I see lots of complicated advice here but y'all are forgetting the option to just file the FBAR and check that foreign accounts box on Schedule B and leave it at that. Thats what my tax guy told me to do for money my parents business in Korea sends me. As long as you're reporting the accounts exist, the rest is just splitting hairs unless we're talking about serious money (like $50k+).
I have to respectfully disagree with this approach. While filing the FBAR is absolutely necessary if you meet the $10,000 threshold, it only reports the existence of foreign accounts - it doesn't address your tax obligations on the income. The IRS treats different types of foreign income very differently. Investment returns, business profits, and gifts all have distinct reporting requirements and tax treatments. Taking a simplified approach could lead to significant underreporting penalties if audited.
11 Just to confirm what others have said - a tax year is always January through December, regardless of when you actually worked during that year. Your 2021 W-2s would cover any money you earned from January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021. Another option nobody mentioned: If you still have your final paystub from November 2021, it might have your year-to-date earnings listed, which would include all your wages from January-November. Some financial aid offices will accept this as temporary proof while you're trying to get your official W-2s. Worth asking your financial aid office!
19 This is really good advice! I work in a college financial aid office, and we do sometimes accept last paystubs as temporary documentation especially in cases like this. We'd still need the official documents eventually, but it can buy you some time with deadlines.
11 Thanks for the additional info! I didn't even think about the paystub option. You're right that the year-to-date information would essentially show the same income information that would be on the W-2. I should have also mentioned that the employer is required by law to provide a replacement W-2, so being persistent with them is important. If they refuse, you can actually report them to the IRS using Form 4852 (substitute for W-2), which also puts some pressure on them to comply.
23 has anyone had luck with the irs phone number for getting wage info? ive been calling 800-829-1040 but keep getting disconnected. is there a better number specifically for w-2 issues??? this is so frustrating!!!
If you don't want to use any services, here's what worked for me with my 2020 deferred payment. In EFTPS, after logging in: 1. Select Tax Form: Individual 2. Tax Type: 1040 Individual Income Tax 3. Tax Period: 2020 (SUPER important - don't select 2025!) 4. Payment Amount: (your deferred amount) I also called my tax accountant to confirm, and he said this was correct. My payment went through fine, and I received confirmation that it was applied to my 2020 liability. The system is actually designed to handle these deferred payments properly.
Did you need to include any special notes or memo with your payment? I've heard conflicting info about whether that's necessary.
I did include a note in the memo field saying "Schedule 3 Line 12e Deferred Payment" just to be extra careful, but my accountant said it wasn't strictly necessary as long as I selected the correct tax year (2020). The most important thing is selecting the right tax year since that's how the IRS computer systems match the payment to your account. The memo is more of a backup in case there's any confusion later and you need to prove your intent.
Just wanted to add that I've been in your shoes and the EFTPS system is confusing as heck when dealing with deferred taxes! One thing nobody mentioned - make sure you schedule your payment at least ONE BUSINESS DAY before the deadline. EFTPS isn't like paying a bill online where it processes immediately. I learned this the hard way and ended up with a late payment penalty even though I submitted the payment on the due date. Super frustrating!!
EFTPS has always been one day delayed for me too. Is there any tax software that lets you pay deferred taxes more easily? Trying to avoid using EFTPS altogether if possible.
Just to add something important no one mentioned yet - if you're not married, one of you can file as Head of Household (which gives a bigger standard deduction and better tax rates) while the other files as Single. To file as HOH, you generally need to: 1) Be unmarried 2) Pay more than half the cost of keeping up your home 3) Have a qualifying person (like your child) live with you for more than half the year So figure that into your calculations too! The person who claims the child as a dependent should probably be the one filing HOH if they qualify, which might be another reason why it worked out better when you claimed your son last year.
Oh man I didn't even think about the Head of Household thing! That might explain the big difference when I ran the numbers last year. So if I understand right, whoever claims our son can probably file as Head of Household, and the other person has to file as Single? Does this mean we should really be looking at our COMBINED tax situation rather than individual returns? Like figuring out which combination of her filing status + my filing status + who claims our son = the best overall result for our household?
Yes, you've got it right! Whoever claims your son would likely qualify for Head of Household (assuming they meet the other requirements like paying for more than half the household expenses), while the other person would file as Single. Absolutely, you should be looking at your combined tax situation. It's not just about who gets the dependent deduction - it's about the whole package: different filing statuses, child tax credit, earned income credit if your incomes qualify, and other credits/deductions that phase out at different income levels. That's why running the numbers both ways like you did last year is the smart approach. The goal is to minimize your household's total tax burden, not just one person's taxes.
I work at a tax prep office and see this situation all the time. Quick clarification on something important: the child tax credit and earned income credit can make a HUGE difference depending on which parent claims the child and what your income levels are. For example, if one of you makes too much money (over $200,000 filing single in 2024), the Child Tax Credit starts to phase out. Or if one of you makes very little income, the Earned Income Credit might be valuable but it phases out as you earn more. These credits often explain why one person claiming the child results in a much bigger refund overall than the other person claiming them, even if your incomes seem similar.
Mei Chen
From what I understand, there were actual tax law changes from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that are hitting people now. The standard deduction went up, but personal exemptions were eliminated. For families with multiple dependents, this can actually result in owing more. Also many tax credits that people relied on were modified or eliminated. So depending on your specific situation and what deductions or credits you used to claim, you might be seeing a totally different result even with the same income.
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Liam O'Sullivan
β’But wasn't that tax law passed in 2017? Why would people just now be feeling the effects in the 2025 filing season?
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Mei Chen
β’Some provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act were designed to phase in gradually over several years. While the law passed in 2017, certain aspects are only now taking full effect or interacting with other tax changes in ways that are becoming noticeable. Also, during the pandemic years, there were temporary tax relief measures and credits that masked some of these effects. Now that those pandemic-era benefits have expired, people are experiencing the full impact of the 2017 changes without those offsetting benefits.
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Amara Okonkwo
Anybody else notice their employer started doing withholding differently? I'm in food service and my company switched payroll systems last summer. My checks got like $30-40 bigger each pay period which was nice at the time, but now I owe $950 when I usually get about $1400 back. Never had this happen before in 12 years of working.
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Giovanni Marino
β’Same thing happened at my retail job! New payroll system last spring and now most of my coworkers owe money. Our manager told us it was because the new system "more accurately calculates withholding" but nobody explained we needed to adjust our W-4s.
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