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Hey OP, don't feel too bad - I completely missed filing for 2020 too because of covid chaos. If its any consolation, the IRS actually keeps the money for 7 years in there system even tho you cant claim the refund after 3 years. They use it to offset government spending. I saw an article that said the IRS keeps about $1 billion a year in unclaimed refunds. The whole system seems designed to make us miss deadlines tbh.
Thanks for that, though it makes me feel even worse knowing they're just sitting on my money! Do you know if they at least apply the unclaimed refunds to the federal deficit, or does it just go into some general fund?
It goes into the general Treasury fund from what I understand. So technically it's reducing the deficit by contributing to general government revenue, but it's not specifically earmarked for debt reduction. The whole situation definitely sucks. If it makes you feel any better, you're far from alone - the IRS reports that they have billions in unclaimed refunds every three-year deadline. The system absolutely doesn't make it easy for people.
Everyone's focused on the refund deadline, but you should still file the 2020 return even if you can't get the money back! If you don't file, the IRS could potentially come after you later. Even though you were owed a refund, not filing at all could theoretically lead to failure-to-file penalties if they ever audit you for some reason.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're self-employed, the SUV choice can affect your self-employment taxes too. If buying means taking a large depreciation deduction upfront, that reduces both income tax AND self-employment tax. With leasing, you're spreading those deductions over time. In my case (plumbing business), I found buying a heavy SUV and taking Section 179 saved me about $4,200 in combined income and SE taxes in year one compared to leasing. But by year 3-5, the lease started looking better because of maintenance costs on the vehicle I owned. Also, don't forget to look at fuel efficiency differences. A gas-guzzling SUV that qualifies for bigger tax breaks might cost you more in the long run than a more efficient one with smaller tax advantages.
Does this calculation change if you have an S-Corp instead of a sole proprietorship? I thought S-Corp owners don't pay SE tax on all business income?
You're right - with an S-Corp the calculation is different because you're only paying SE tax (actually FICA taxes in this case) on your reasonable salary, not on all business profits. In an S-Corp scenario, the depreciation deduction would still reduce your overall business income, but may not have the same SE tax savings as with a sole proprietorship where every dollar of business profit is subject to SE tax. However, you'd still get the income tax savings from the deduction. That's why some tax professionals recommend buying and taking large upfront deductions for sole proprietors, but might have different recommendations for S-Corp owners.
Has anyone here used an electric SUV for business? I'm wondering if the EV tax credits would change this calculation significantly. Like could I get the business vehicle deduction AND the clean vehicle credit?
Yes! I got both for my business Tesla Model Y last year. The clean vehicle credit has some income limitations and vehicle price caps, but if you qualify, it's a straight $7,500 credit on top of your business deductions. The vehicle has to be under $80K for SUVs to qualify. Just remember that the business percentage applies to the depreciation/expenses, but the full clean vehicle credit applies regardless of business use (as long as you qualify based on income, etc).
That's awesome! Do you know if leasing an EV would still qualify for these benefits? I'm not sure I want to buy outright.
Have you considered renting out a room in your new home? That could significantly change your tax situation. I turned my basement into a rental unit and it allows me to deduct a portion of my mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, insurance, and maintenance costs as rental expenses. You can even depreciate that portion of your property. Just make sure you understand the rules about personal use vs. rental use, and be prepared to keep very detailed records. The IRS is pretty strict about documentation for rental properties.
That's interesting! I do have a finished basement that could potentially work as a rental. Do you have to formally declare it as a rental property or get special permits? And what about the tax implications if it's just a short-term rental (like Airbnb) versus a long-term tenant?
You'll need to check your local zoning laws and HOA rules (if you have one) before renting. Many areas require permits for legal rental units, especially if you're adding a separate kitchen or entrance. Some cities have restrictions on short-term rentals like Airbnb. The tax treatment is somewhat different between short-term and long-term rentals. Short-term rentals (less than 7 days average stay) are treated more like a hotel business than traditional rental property, which affects how you deduct expenses. Long-term rentals are simpler from a tax perspective. Either way, you'll report rental income and expenses on Schedule E. If you rent for 14 days or less per year, you don't have to report the income at all (the "Augusta Rule"), though you also can't claim rental expense deductions.
Don't forget to check if you qualify for the first-time homebuyer credit for your state! The federal one expired years ago, but many states still offer tax benefits for first-time buyers. Also, if you work from home, talk to your employer about a home office stipend instead of the tax deduction. My company gives us $150/month tax-free as a remote work stipend that doesn't show up as income!
I haven't heard about the home office stipend approach. How does that work exactly? Is that something employers commonly offer?
Aside from the withholding aspect, remember that your bonus will increase your AGI (adjusted gross income), which could potentially impact some tax benefits that phase out at certain income levels. If you're close to any thresholds for deductions or credits, this bonus might affect those.
I didn't even think about that! Are there any specific thresholds I should be aware of that a 5% bonus might push me over? With my $62,000 base plus roughly $3,100 bonus, I'll be at about $65,100.
At your income level of around $65,100 after the bonus, you're still well within most common phaseout ranges, so I wouldn't be too concerned. The student loan interest deduction begins to phase out at $75,000 for single filers (2024 figures), and the Roth IRA contribution begins phasing out around $138,000. The Saver's Credit could be affected if you're close to the threshold, which is $36,500 for single filers, but you're well above that already. Child Tax Credit phaseouts start at much higher income levels ($200,000 for single filers), so those shouldn't be affected either. Overall, your 5% bonus is unlikely to push you over any significant tax benefit thresholds.
Has anyone had their employer mess up the withholding on bonuses? Last year mine withheld at my regular rate instead of the 22% flat rate and I ended up owing a lot more than expected at tax time.
Sarah Jones
Just wanted to share our experience with this exact situation. We have a cleaning business with several employees who didn't have documentation. Here's what worked: 1) We helped each person file a tax return reporting their actual income from past work (estimated as accurately as possible) as self-employment income 2) We included the W-7 ITIN application with certified copies of their ID documents 3) While waiting for ITINs, we set up proper payroll accounting with placeholders 4) Once ITINs arrived, we updated our payroll system The biggest mistake people make is rushing and using fake numbers. Taking the 7-8 weeks to do it right is SO much better than the alternative. Our accountant nearly had a heart attack when he saw how we'd been handling things before!
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Sebastian Scott
ā¢Did you have any issues with the I-9 process though? An ITIN doesn't provide work authorization, so I'm curious how you handled the employment eligibility verification requirement.
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Sarah Jones
ā¢That's a completely separate issue from tax compliance, and you're right to bring it up. Getting an ITIN only addresses the tax identification requirement, not work authorization. For employment eligibility, each business has to determine their own approach based on their understanding of applicable laws. Some of our workers were able to adjust their status through various programs and eventually obtained work authorization. Others transitioned to providing services through their own small businesses where they had multiple clients (not just us).
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Emily Sanjay
Has anyone tried applying for ITINs using the Acceptance Agent program instead of sending documents directly to the IRS? I've heard it can be faster since they can verify original documents locally instead of sending them in.
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Jordan Walker
ā¢Yes! We used a Certified Acceptance Agent for our farm workers' ITIN applications and it was much smoother. The agent verified their original identification documents on the spot, so they didn't have to mail in passports or birth certificates. The processing time was about 5 weeks instead of the usual 7-9 weeks when submitting directly to the IRS. The agent also helped make sure the tax returns filed with the applications were properly prepared, which prevented delays from errors. It cost a bit more but was totally worth it for the faster processing and reduced headaches.
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