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Has anyone run into issues with the hobby loss rule with something like D&D sessions? I'm worried the IRS might consider my similar side gig a hobby rather than a business.
The key to avoiding the hobby loss rule is showing that you're running your D&D sessions as a business with the intent to make a profit. Keep good records, have separate business accounts, track all expenses properly, create a business plan, and be professional about how you operate. The IRS generally uses a "3 out of 5" guideline - if you show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they typically consider it a legitimate business. Since OP mentioned they were "hit hard with taxes," it sounds like they're profitable, which helps their case significantly.
That makes sense, thanks! I've been profitable 2 of the last 3 years, so I think I'm on the right track. I do have separate tracking for all my game master income and expenses, but I should probably open a dedicated bank account to make it even clearer.
I went through the S-Corp route with my freelance writing business and can confirm it saved me several thousand in self-employment taxes, BUT - and this is a big but - it only made sense once I was consistently making over $70k. The accounting and filing fees cost me about $1,200/year plus the extra time dealing with payroll. Stick with Schedule C for now, maximize your legitimate deductions, and revisit the business structure question when your income grows. The tax savings need to outweigh the additional costs and complications.
For what it's worth, I've been a homeowner for 10 years and still do my own taxes with TurboTax. Unless your situation is super complicated (like you're running a business from your new home or did some kind of unusual financing), the homeowner stuff isn't that hard. TurboTax walks you through it all with questions. The main things you'll deal with are: 1) Mortgage interest (from Form 1098 your lender sends) 2) Property taxes (also on Form 1098 usually) 3) If you paid points at closing (should be on Form 1098) If this is your only "complication" to your taxes, I personally wouldn't pay a preparer, but that's just me. I'd rather learn how it works myself.
Thanks for the perspective! Did you find that you were able to itemize deductions right away in your first partial year of homeownership? Or did it take a full year of mortgage interest before it made sense?
In my first partial year, I wasn't able to itemize because I only had about 4 months of mortgage interest which wasn't enough to exceed the standard deduction. I just took the standard deduction that first year. It wasn't until my first full calendar year of homeownership that itemizing made sense. But it's still worth running the numbers both ways in TurboTax (itemized vs standard) to see which gives you the better outcome. The software makes this comparison pretty easy.
Don't forget to check if your state has any first-time homebuyer tax benefits! The federal credits have expired but many states still have them. I bought in Maryland and they had a program that saved me over $1,000 on my state taxes. TurboTax actually missed this when I tried to DIY, so I ended up going to H&R Block and they caught it.
What states still have good homebuyer tax breaks? I'm in Pennsylvania and when I asked my lender they said there weren't any tax breaks, just loan programs for first-time buyers.
California still has some good ones! My friend just bought her first home and got a $10,000 credit through some state program. Definitely worth checking.
One thing no one has mentioned yet is that your friend should make sure he gets a W-9 from the helper BEFORE paying them. This creates a paper trail proving he tried to do everything correctly. I learned this the hard way when one of my contractors ghosted me after payment and I couldn't complete their 1099 properly. The IRS can actually penalize you for missing or incorrect 1099s even if it wasn't your fault.
What exactly happens if you can't get someone to fill out a W-9? Like if they refuse or you just can't reach them anymore? Are you still supposed to issue the 1099 somehow?
If someone refuses to complete a W-9 or you can't reach them after payment, you're technically supposed to begin backup withholding at a rate of 24% on any future payments to that person. This means holding back that percentage and remitting it to the IRS. For the 1099-NEC, you should still issue it with whatever information you do have. If you're missing their tax ID number, the IRS may send you a B-notice requesting the missing information. The best protection is documenting your attempts to get their information (emails, certified letters, etc.). The IRS understands these situations happen, but they want to see you made a good faith effort to comply.
Be careful about the "20 Factor Test" the IRS uses! Even if someone brings their own tools, they might still be considered an employee if your friend controls WHEN and HOW they do the work. For example, if your friend says "be at this location at 9am, do the lawn this way, and leave at 5pm" - that's looking more like an employee relationship even with their own tools.
I'm a tax attorney who has gone through this exact situation. The critical factor is whether the lawyer currently performs tasks that CPAs perform. If they're doing accounting, tax planning, financial analysis, etc. as part of their legal practice, then the CPA credential enhances existing skills rather than qualifying for a new profession. Schedule C deduction would likely be better than the Lifetime Learning Credit if they're self-employed and in a higher tax bracket. The LLC is limited to $2,000 with income phaseouts, while a Schedule C business deduction has no cap and reduces SE tax too.
Thanks for sharing your experience! When you say Schedule C might be better, does that mean you believe the education would qualify as a legitimate business expense under T Reg 1.162-5(a) for someone in this situation?
Yes, I believe it would qualify as a legitimate business expense in this specific case. The key is that T Reg 1.162-5(a) allows deductions for education that "maintains or improves skills required by the individual in his employment or other trade or business." If your client can document that they regularly perform accounting functions in their law practice (like tax planning, financial analysis for clients, etc.), then the CPA education enhances existing skills rather than qualifying them for a new profession. It's the actual tasks performed that matter, not the job title. I successfully took this position on my own return and have advised clients similarly without issues.
Has anyone considered that this might be eligible for both the Lifetime Learning Credit AND a partial Schedule C deduction? If the courses have mixed purposes (partly for current business, partly for new credentials), you might be able to allocate a percentage to each based on course content.
Lucas Notre-Dame
Another option to consider is the AARP Foundation Tax-Aide program. If you qualify (they primarily serve seniors but also help lower to middle income taxpayers of any age), they'll review your return for FREE. I volunteered with them for years, and we did reviews all the time. The volunteers are IRS-certified and really know their stuff. Check their website to find locations near you and see if you qualify. Their season usually runs February through mid-April.
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Sophia Nguyen
ā¢This sounds like a great option! Do they have income limits for who qualifies? And do they help with state returns as well as federal?
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Lucas Notre-Dame
ā¢They prioritize seniors but don't have strict income limits. Generally, they serve people with "low to moderate" income, which in practice can be up to $75,000 for individuals or $100,000 for families, but this varies by location based on the cost of living in your area. They absolutely help with state returns as well as federal. The service is completely free regardless of how complex your return is. Just be aware that during peak season (late March through April 15) the wait times can get long, so going earlier in the season is better if possible.
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Aria Park
I tried having my self-prepared return reviewed by a local CPA last year, and it was a total waste of $120. She basically skimmed through it for 10 minutes and said "looks good." Didn't find any issues or missed opportunities, and seemed annoyed that I wasn't paying for full preparation. Anyone have tips for finding someone who actually takes the review process seriously? Or specific questions I should ask beforehand to weed out the ones who won't put in effort?
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Noah Ali
ā¢When I was searching for a reviewer, I asked specifically, "What's your process for reviewing a self-prepared return?" The good ones will explain a systematic approach and mention specific areas they focus on. Also ask, "How often do you find missed opportunities on DIY returns?" - the honest ones will have specific examples ready.
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Aria Park
ā¢That's really helpful advice, thanks! I like the idea of asking about their process upfront - that would definitely help identify who's just going to skim it versus who takes the review seriously. I'll definitely try those questions if I decide to get a review again this year. I still feel a bit burned by the experience, but maybe I just chose the wrong professional. I've seen a few recommendations in this thread that seem promising too.
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