Can independent contractors hire other independent contractors for business help?
My buddy runs his own landscaping business as an independent contractor. He recently had a big project and needed extra help, so he hired this guy who brought his own equipment (lawn mower, trimmers, etc. that my buddy doesn't own). The helper worked for about 3 weeks on various jobs. Now my buddy is wondering about the tax situation. Can he issue this helper a 1099-NEC and then deduct what he paid him as a business expense on his Schedule C? The total paid was around $3,200 for the work. My buddy doesn't want to mess up his taxes or get in trouble with the IRS, but he also wants to make sure he's documenting everything correctly since it was a legitimate business expense. Is this allowed or does he need to classify this person differently? Any advice would be appreciated!
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Ethan Brown
Yes, independent contractors can absolutely hire other independent contractors! This is actually quite common in many industries including landscaping. Since your buddy hired someone who used their own tools and presumably controlled how they completed the work, classifying them as an independent contractor makes sense. Your buddy can issue them a 1099-NEC if he paid them $600 or more during the tax year (which at $3,200, he definitely did). The payment can then be deducted as a business expense on his Schedule C, likely under "Contract labor" (Line 11). He'll need to collect a W-9 form from the person he hired before issuing the 1099-NEC, and he must provide the 1099-NEC to both the worker and the IRS by the deadline (usually January 31st of the following year).
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Yuki Yamamoto
•What if the helper only worked for like 2 days? Do you still need to give them a 1099 if it's under $600? Also, is there any risk of the IRS saying this person should have been an employee instead?
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Ethan Brown
•If the helper earned less than $600 for the calendar year, your buddy isn't required to issue a 1099-NEC. He can still deduct the payment as a business expense, but wouldn't need to file the form. Regarding worker classification concerns, the IRS looks at several factors to determine if someone should be classified as an employee versus an independent contractor. The fact that the helper used their own equipment is definitely a point in favor of contractor status. Other important factors include: who controlled when and how the work was done, whether the relationship was ongoing or temporary, and if the worker provides similar services to other businesses. A short-term helper who brings their own tools and determines their own work methods typically qualifies as an independent contractor, but it's always good to document these aspects of the working relationship.
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Carmen Ortiz
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Andre Rousseau
•Does it actually tell you if someone qualifies as a contractor vs employee? That's always the tricky part. Like what if they use my tools sometimes but their own other times?
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Zoe Papadakis
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Jamal Carter
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AstroAdventurer
•How does this actually work? The IRS phone lines are impossible to get through - I've tried for days and always get disconnected. Are you saying this actually gets you through to a real person?
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Mei Liu
•Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS these days. They're perpetually understaffed and their phone systems are from the 90s. I'll believe this works when pigs fly.
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Jamal Carter
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Liam O'Sullivan
One thing no one has mentioned yet is that your friend should make sure he gets a W-9 from the helper BEFORE paying them. This creates a paper trail proving he tried to do everything correctly. I learned this the hard way when one of my contractors ghosted me after payment and I couldn't complete their 1099 properly. The IRS can actually penalize you for missing or incorrect 1099s even if it wasn't your fault.
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Amara Chukwu
•What exactly happens if you can't get someone to fill out a W-9? Like if they refuse or you just can't reach them anymore? Are you still supposed to issue the 1099 somehow?
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Liam O'Sullivan
•If someone refuses to complete a W-9 or you can't reach them after payment, you're technically supposed to begin backup withholding at a rate of 24% on any future payments to that person. This means holding back that percentage and remitting it to the IRS. For the 1099-NEC, you should still issue it with whatever information you do have. If you're missing their tax ID number, the IRS may send you a B-notice requesting the missing information. The best protection is documenting your attempts to get their information (emails, certified letters, etc.). The IRS understands these situations happen, but they want to see you made a good faith effort to comply.
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Giovanni Conti
Be careful about the "20 Factor Test" the IRS uses! Even if someone brings their own tools, they might still be considered an employee if your friend controls WHEN and HOW they do the work. For example, if your friend says "be at this location at 9am, do the lawn this way, and leave at 5pm" - that's looking more like an employee relationship even with their own tools.
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
•So what's the actual difference then? Like how much control can you have before they're considered an employee? I sometimes need people to be at certain places at certain times because, you know, that's when the client expects us.
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