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Andre Rousseau

Can I be both an employee and independent contractor for the same company simultaneously?

So here's my situation - I've been working at this construction company for about 8 months as a regular hourly employee (getting a W-2 and everything). Recently my boss approached me about taking on additional projects outside my normal hours - like nights and weekends - but as a contractor where he'd pay a flat rate for each job completed. The twist is that for these contract jobs, I'd need to bring in my own helpers/crew to complete the work. He mentioned paying in cash for these side projects. I'm a bit confused about how this would work tax-wise since I'd still be his employee during regular hours but apparently a contractor for these other projects? Do I need to set up an LLC for this arrangement? How would taxes work in this situation? Would I need to issue 1099s to anyone helping me? I want to make sure I'm doing everything legally correct since it seems complicated to be both an employee and contractor for the same person. Any advice would be super helpful!

Zoe Stavros

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Yes, you can be both an employee and independent contractor for the same company, but there are important distinctions and requirements to be aware of. The key factor is that the work you do as a contractor must be substantially different from your employee duties. Based on what you've described, working nights/weekends on different projects with your own helpers seems to meet this test, but the IRS looks at the nature of the relationship closely. For tax purposes, you'll receive a W-2 for your employee work and should receive a 1099-NEC for your contractor work (cash payments are a red flag - all income must be reported regardless of payment method). You'll need to pay self-employment taxes (15.3%) on your contractor income. Regarding your helpers, you would be responsible for determining if they're your employees or subcontractors. If they're subcontractors, you'd need to issue 1099s if you pay any individual $600+ per year. An LLC isn't required but can provide liability protection and potentially tax benefits. A simple Schedule C filing might be sufficient to start, but consulting with a tax professional is recommended as your contracting business grows.

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Jamal Harris

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Thanks for the info! Does getting paid in cash for the contract work raise any audit concerns with the IRS? My boss seems to prefer that method but I'm a bit nervous about it.

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Zoe Stavros

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Cash payments themselves aren't illegal, but they do require extra diligence on your part. Make sure you keep meticulous records of all cash received, including dates and amounts. Create invoices for each job, even if your boss doesn't request them. The concern with cash is that the IRS scrutinizes businesses with high cash transactions because historically they've been avenues for underreporting income. If you report all income properly, there's no issue. But if the suggestion is to keep cash payments "off the books," that's tax evasion and carries significant penalties. Your boss should be providing a 1099-NEC regardless of payment method if you're paid $600+ annually for contract work.

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Did the system help you figure out if you needed to form an LLC? That's what I'm struggling with for my side gig.

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Liam Sullivan

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StarStrider

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One important thing nobody's mentioned - if you're going to have helpers for these jobs, you need to be crystal clear whether they're your employees or subcontractors. Getting this wrong can be expensive! If you control HOW they do the work (not just the end result), provide their tools/equipment, set their hours, etc., they might legally be employees. That means payroll taxes, workers comp insurance, etc. If they're truly independent (have their own business, control their work methods, work for others too), then you can treat them as subcontractors and just issue 1099s. Don't just go by what they prefer - the IRS has specific rules about worker classification!

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. For these jobs, I'd be hiring friends who have experience in construction but don't have their own businesses. I'd be providing most of the equipment and directing the work. Does that mean I'd need to treat them as employees rather than subcontractors?

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StarStrider

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Based on what you've described, they would likely be considered your employees, not subcontractors. You're providing equipment and directing the work, which are two major factors the IRS looks at for classification. This adds another layer of complexity because you'd need to handle payroll taxes, possibly workers' compensation insurance (depending on your state), and comply with various employer regulations. You'd need to withhold federal and state income taxes, Social Security, and Medicare from their wages, plus pay the employer portion of FICA taxes.

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Has anyone considered that the boss might be trying to avoid paying proper employment taxes by structuring it this way? Sounds fishy that he wants to pay cash for the "contractor" work.

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Sofia Torres

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I had a similar situation, and it turned out my employer was indeed trying to minimize their tax obligations. The IRS actually has specific rules against "employee misclassification" where employers try to treat workers as contractors to avoid payroll taxes and benefits.

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Ethan Moore

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Be very careful about this arrangement - there are several red flags here that could get you in trouble with the IRS. The combination of cash payments, using your own crew, and working for the same employer in dual roles needs to be handled extremely carefully. First, the "substantially different work" test is critical. Your contractor work must be genuinely different from your employee duties, not just the same work done at different times. If you're doing similar construction work, the IRS might view this as your employer trying to avoid payroll taxes on overtime or additional regular work. Second, regarding your helpers - if you're providing equipment and directing their work, they're likely YOUR employees, not subcontractors. This means you'd need to handle payroll taxes, workers' comp, and all employer obligations. Many people miss this and face significant penalties. The cash payment preference is concerning. While not illegal if properly reported, it often indicates the employer wants to keep things "off the books." Make sure you get proper documentation (1099-NEC) and report ALL income. I'd strongly recommend getting professional tax advice before proceeding. The potential for worker misclassification issues, unreported income problems, and employment law violations could be very costly. Consider whether the extra income is worth the compliance complexity and potential risks.

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This is exactly the kind of thorough analysis I was hoping to see! You've highlighted some serious concerns that I think many people overlook when they jump into these dual-role arrangements. The "substantially different work" test is particularly important - just because it's nights and weekends doesn't automatically make it contractor work if you're essentially doing the same construction tasks. The IRS looks at the nature of the work itself, not just the timing. Your point about the helpers is spot-on too. I've seen so many small contractors get hit with massive back-taxes and penalties because they misclassified workers as 1099 contractors when they should have been W-2 employees. The control factor is huge - if you're telling them how to do the work and providing the tools, you're likely their employer. Given all these complexities, do you think it might be worth suggesting that the original poster consider negotiating for overtime pay or a raise in their regular employee role instead? It seems like that might be simpler and less risky than this hybrid arrangement, especially with all the potential compliance issues.

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Ava Thompson

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You've received some excellent advice here, but I want to emphasize one crucial point that could save you from serious legal trouble: the IRS has been cracking down hard on "sham contractor" arrangements, especially in construction. The fact that your boss prefers cash payments and you'd essentially be doing construction work (just at different times) raises major red flags. The IRS doesn't just look at when you work - they examine whether the work is truly independent contracting or if it's just a way to avoid overtime and payroll taxes. Here are the key tests the IRS uses: - Do you have the right to control HOW the work is done? (Sounds like yes) - Are you economically dependent on this employer? (You're already their employee) - Is this work integral to their business? (Construction work for a construction company - yes) If you fail these tests, the IRS could reclassify all your "contractor" payments as employee wages, meaning your boss owes back payroll taxes, penalties, and interest. Worse, if they try to claim you were responsible for the taxes, you could be stuck with a massive bill. Before you proceed, I'd strongly recommend having your boss consult with an employment attorney or tax professional. Many employers think they can just call someone a contractor, but the legal requirements are strict. Getting this wrong isn't just expensive - it can result in criminal charges for willful misclassification. Consider asking for overtime pay or a raise instead. It's much cleaner legally and financially.

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This is really eye-opening - I had no idea the IRS was cracking down so hard on these arrangements. The way you've laid out those tests makes it pretty clear that what my boss is proposing probably wouldn't pass scrutiny. The economic dependence factor is particularly concerning since I'm already getting my main income from them as an employee. And you're absolutely right that construction work for a construction company would be considered integral to their business. I'm starting to think the overtime/raise route might be the way to go. Even if the "contractor" work paid more per project, dealing with potential IRS issues, managing employees (my helpers), and all the compliance headaches doesn't seem worth it. Do you happen to know what kind of penalties we'd be looking at if the IRS did reclassify this arrangement? I want to have some concrete numbers when I talk to my boss about why this might not be such a good idea.

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