Full time employee but boss is having me fill out W-9 instead of W-4 - is this legal?
So I've been working at this company for about 8 months now, and something feels off about my tax situation. I work a regular 40-hour week with set hours (9-5, Monday through Friday), use company equipment, and my boss dictates exactly how I should complete my tasks. The problem is, when I started, my boss had me fill out a W-9 form instead of a W-4. He doesn't withhold ANY taxes from my weekly paycheck - I get the full amount. I've been setting aside roughly 20% of each check because I know tax time is going to hit hard, but I'm starting to worry this whole arrangement isn't right. From everything I understand, I'm being treated like a regular employee, not an independent contractor. I don't have control over my work hours or methods, I don't work for multiple clients, and I don't provide my own equipment. Can I get into legal trouble for filing taxes with a 1099 when I'm essentially functioning as a W-2 employee? And am I going to end up paying way more in self-employment taxes than I should be? This is stressing me out as we get closer to tax season.
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Ana Rusula
You're right to be concerned. What you're describing is likely employee misclassification, which is pretty common but definitely not correct. Based on what you've shared, you're being treated as an employee in practice (set hours, boss controls how work is done, company equipment), but being classified as an independent contractor for tax purposes. The difference matters a lot for taxes. As a 1099 contractor, you're responsible for both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), which totals about 15.3% - that's on top of your regular income tax. If you were properly classified as a W-2 employee, your employer would pay half of those FICA taxes. You won't get in trouble with the IRS for this situation - your employer would. The IRS actually has a form specifically for this issue - Form SS-8 "Determination of Worker Status." You can file this to request the IRS to make an official determination if you're an employee or contractor. Another option is to talk with your employer first. They might not realize they're incorrectly classifying you, or they might be trying to avoid paying their share of taxes and providing benefits.
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Fidel Carson
•If OP files that SS-8 form, won't the boss just fire them for making waves? I've seen this happen before and the employee always gets screwed while the company gets away with it...
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Noah huntAce420
•Thank you for confirming my suspicions. It's been bothering me for months but I wasn't sure if I was just misunderstanding something. Do you know roughly how much more I'm paying in taxes by being misclassified? I make about $950 a week, so around $49,400 annually. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth potentially causing issues with my boss by bringing this up.
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Ana Rusula
•The risk of retaliation is definitely real, though technically that would be illegal too. It's a tough spot for sure. Some employees choose to wait until they have another job lined up before filing the SS-8. As for how much more you're paying - on your $49,400 annual income, the extra self-employment tax burden is about $3,780 per year. That's because you're paying the full 15.3% FICA tax instead of just the employee half (7.65%) that you would pay as a W-2 employee. Plus, you don't get benefits like unemployment insurance or workers' comp protection. That's a significant amount of money being shifted from your employer to you.
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Isaiah Sanders
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Fiona Gallagher
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Xan Dae
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Thais Soares
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Axel Bourke
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Aidan Percy
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - check your state's department of labor too! Employment classification is handled at both federal and state levels. Some states (like California) have even stricter tests for who can be classified as an independent contractor. Your state labor department might be able to help you faster than the IRS, and many have specific task forces dedicated to misclassification issues. In my experience, state agencies often move quicker on these issues than federal ones.
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Noah huntAce420
•That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Do you know if filing with the state could cause problems for my employer with the IRS too? I'm trying to fix this situation without completely destroying my relationship with my boss if possible.
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Aidan Percy
•Yes, state investigations can definitely trigger federal attention. But here's the thing - if you approach your employer first with information about the proper classification, many will fix it voluntarily to avoid penalties. Show them that proper classification protects them too. Misclassification can lead to back taxes, penalties, and even legal issues for the employer. Frame it as you looking out for both of you, not as a threat. Many employers, especially smaller ones, genuinely don't understand the classification rules and aren't intentionally trying to evade taxes.
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Fernanda Marquez
Has anyone mentioned the Safe Harbor provision? If your employer has been consistently treating workers in your position as independent contractors, they might have a reasonable basis for continuing to do so legally. Section 530 relief can protect employers who've historically treated workers as contractors, filed all the proper 1099s, and had a reasonable basis for the classification (like industry standard practice). Not saying your situation falls under this, but wanted to bring it up since nobody else has.
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Norman Fraser
•That's really misleading advice. Safe Harbor doesn't override the actual employment test - it just provides penalty relief in some cases. Fixed schedule, employer equipment, direct supervision = employee, period. OP's boss is just trying to skip out on paying employment taxes.
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Diego Vargas
I went through something very similar about two years ago. The stress of not knowing if you're handling your taxes correctly is awful, especially when you're already setting aside money but unsure if it's enough. One thing that really helped me was documenting everything about my work arrangement - my set schedule, the company equipment I use, how my boss directs my work, etc. This documentation became crucial when I eventually had to address the misclassification. The 20% you're setting aside might not be enough unfortunately. Between federal income tax, state tax (if applicable), and the full 15.3% self-employment tax, you could be looking at 25-30% or more depending on your tax bracket. At your income level, you're definitely paying thousands more per year than you should be. I'd strongly recommend having a conversation with your employer first before filing any forms with the IRS. Many employers genuinely don't understand the classification rules, and approaching it as an educational discussion rather than an accusation can preserve your working relationship. If that doesn't work, then you have the SS-8 and other options people have mentioned. Don't let this stress eat at you - you're not doing anything wrong, and there are clear paths to resolve it.
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Ryan Young
•This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed to hear. You're right about the documentation - I've been keeping track of my hours and tasks but hadn't thought about formally documenting how my boss directs my work methods. That could be really important evidence. The tax percentage you mentioned is scary but not surprising. I was hoping 20% would be enough, but if I'm looking at 25-30%, I need to adjust my withholding immediately. Better to over-save than get hit with a huge tax bill. I think I'll follow your suggestion about approaching my boss first. Maybe I can frame it as "I've been researching tax classifications and want to make sure we're both protected" rather than "you're breaking the law." Did you find any specific resources that helped you explain the situation to your employer in a non-confrontational way?
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