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Amara Oluwaseyi

How to handle rental income on Schedule C vs Schedule E with LLC properties and handyman business

So I've been trying to help my cousin with his tax situation but I'm getting confused about what's the right approach. Here's what he's got: He owns 5 rental properties in working class neighborhoods bringing in modest income each month. 3 of them are under his LLC and 2 are in his personal name. For years he's been filing Schedule E for the properties in his personal name and Schedule C for the ones in the LLC. He sold one of his personal properties last year and made about $38,000 profit after expenses. The complicated part is that he also operates his own handyman business which he reports on a separate Schedule C. He does all the maintenance and repairs on his rental properties himself through his handyman business. He's wondering if he can legitimately pay his handyman business for all the work on his rentals to offset the rental income (materials and labor). And can he use Section 179 to deduct a work van purchase to offset some of the handyman business income? I know enough about taxes to be dangerous but this situation seems too complicated for me to give solid advice. Any tax pros have thoughts on the right way to handle this?

CosmicCaptain

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There are a few issues that need to be addressed here: First, regarding Schedule C vs Schedule E - rental activities should generally be reported on Schedule E regardless of whether they're owned personally or through an LLC. Schedule C is for businesses where services are the primary income source, while Schedule E is specifically for rental real estate. The LLC is just a legal structure, not a tax classification that would change this reporting. For the property your cousin sold, that should be reported on Form 8949 and Schedule D as a capital gain (assuming it was held for more than a year). This is separate from the rental income reporting. As for paying his handyman business for work on rentals - this gets tricky. Since he's essentially paying himself, the IRS could view this as simply moving money from one pocket to another. However, if the LLC rental properties paid his personally-owned handyman business for legitimate services at fair market rates, there might be an argument for those being legitimate business expenses. For the Section 179 deduction on the work van - yes, this is potentially allowable if the van is used primarily (more than 50%) for the handyman business. He would need to maintain documentation of business use vs. personal use.

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Thanks for the detailed response! I had a feeling he was doing the Schedule C vs E thing incorrectly. So even though some properties are in an LLC, they should still be on Schedule E? Also, what about the handyman situation? If he creates actual invoices from his handyman business to his rental properties (whether personal or LLC-owned), would that make it more legitimate? He really does do all the work himself and buys all the materials.

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CosmicCaptain

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Yes, rental properties should generally be reported on Schedule E regardless of ownership structure. The LLC is for legal liability protection, but it doesn't change how rental income is reported unless it elects to be taxed as a corporation (which would be unusual and typically disadvantageous for rental properties). For the handyman invoices, creating proper documentation is a good start, but there are still potential issues. The IRS looks at substance over form. If your cousin owns both the rental properties and the handyman business, they're related parties. He should charge fair market rates that he would charge any other customer, keep detailed records of all work performed, maintain separate bank accounts, and ensure all transactions are at arm's length. Even with perfect documentation, the IRS might still question arrangements between related parties, especially if they seem designed primarily to reduce tax liability.

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Ava Martinez

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - your cousin should be careful about the material costs for repairs vs. improvements. If he's doing capital improvements to the properties (like replacing a roof or remodeling), those costs should be depreciated over time rather than expensed immediately like regular repairs and maintenance. This matters a lot for how his handyman business invoices the rental properties. Repairs can be fully deducted in the current year, but improvements need to be capitalized and depreciated over the useful life of the improvement (often 27.5 years for residential rental property improvements). The IRS looks closely at this distinction, especially with related parties where there's incentive to classify everything as an immediately deductible repair.

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That's a really good point! So if his handyman business does a bathroom remodel on one of his rental properties, he can't just expense the full amount that year? How would that work between the two businesses?

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Ava Martinez

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For a bathroom remodel, the rental property would need to capitalize those costs and depreciate them over time (generally 27.5 years for residential rental property improvements). The handyman business would still recognize the full income from the job in the year it's performed, creating a timing mismatch between the income and deduction sides. This is one reason why related party transactions get complicated. His handyman business gets taxed on the full income now, while the rental property only gets a small depreciation deduction each year. This timing difference often results in higher overall taxes than if he simply did the work without creating an internal transaction. However, if he's trying to build a legitimate, separate handyman business with external clients, maintaining consistent pricing and documentation across all clients (including his own properties) helps establish the business as legitimate.

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Miguel Castro

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Your cousin might want to consider proper legal structuring here. Having some properties in personal name and others in an LLC is creating confusion. He might benefit from putting ALL properties into LLCs (maybe separate LLCs for liability purposes) but then having all of those LLCs owned by a holding company that could elect S-Corp taxation. This way, he gets liability protection for all properties, potential self-employment tax savings on the management portion of his activities, and clearer separation between his rental business and handyman service business.

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I disagree. Having too many LLCs creates unnecessary complexity and filing requirements. The annual costs of maintaining multiple LLCs (state fees, registered agent fees, etc.) would likely outweigh any tax benefits for small rental properties, especially in "low income neighborhoods" as mentioned. Plus, many banks won't allow you to have conventional mortgages in LLCs - they require commercial loans which have higher rates.

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Hazel Garcia

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There's another important consideration here that I haven't seen mentioned - the passive activity loss rules. Since your cousin has a handyman business (which generates active income), he needs to be careful about how rental losses interact with his other income. If he's actively managing the rental properties (collecting rent, finding tenants, making management decisions), he might qualify for the $25,000 rental loss deduction against his handyman income, but this phases out at higher income levels. However, if he's paying his handyman business for work on the rentals, this could actually reduce his rental losses and affect this calculation. Also, regarding the LLC properties on Schedule C - this is definitely incorrect as others have mentioned. LLCs are typically disregarded entities for tax purposes unless they elect corporate taxation. The rental income should still go on Schedule E regardless of the LLC structure. One more thing to consider: if he's serious about building the handyman business, he should consider whether having it work primarily on his own properties might hurt his ability to claim it's a legitimate business activity rather than just a hobby or tax avoidance scheme. The IRS looks at factors like profit motive, time spent, expertise, and success in making profits when determining if something is a business.

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Nia Jackson

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This is such a helpful breakdown of the passive activity rules! I hadn't even thought about how paying his handyman business could actually reduce his rental losses and affect that $25,000 deduction. The point about legitimacy of the handyman business is really important too. If most of his handyman income comes from his own properties, wouldn't that make it look more like a tax shelter than a real business? Should he be actively seeking outside clients to strengthen his case that it's a legitimate business operation? Also, do you know if there are any specific documentation requirements he should follow to prove active participation in managing the rentals? I assume just doing the physical work himself wouldn't count as "active management" for the passive loss rules.

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