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Marcelle Drum

Should I form an LLC and file as S Corp for my 1099 contractor income?

This is my first complete year working solely as a 1099 contractor and I'm trying to figure out the best tax structure. Currently I have two different contract jobs that will bring in around $150k total for the year. I do a ton of driving for these jobs. I've been putting money aside for taxes based on what someone at TurboTax estimated for me last year, but I just checked some online tax calculators and they're saying I'm short by like $13k! Now I'm freaking out a bit. Several colleagues I work with have LLCs and file as S Corps, and they're suggesting I do the same. But when I talked to a tax advisor about it, she recommended against it, so I'm confused about what's best. The tricky part is I need about $105k just to cover my basic living expenses and I'm also trying to aggressively pay down some debt I accumulated over the past few years. To complicate things further, I converted my previous home into a rental property this year. One of my colleagues who has a few rental properties told me I shouldn't create a separate LLC for the rental. He also mentioned that if I do form LLCs, they should each have their own bank accounts, which makes sense to me. I played around with some tax software called Lettuce, and it calculated I could save around $9k by setting up an S Corp, but that was assuming a $65k salary which wouldn't cover my expenses. I'm really stumped on what to do and would appreciate any advice!

Tate Jensen

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Setting up an LLC with S Corp election is definitely worth considering in your situation, but it's not a one-size-fits-all solution. When you're making $150k as a 1099 contractor, the biggest advantage of an S Corp is saving on self-employment taxes. With regular self-employment, you pay 15.3% on all your net profit. With an S Corp, you only pay that on your "reasonable salary" while the rest can be taken as distributions that aren't subject to those taxes. The key issue I see is your living expenses requiring $105k. The IRS expects a "reasonable salary" for your industry and workload. If you need that much to live on, setting your salary significantly lower could raise red flags. Industry standards, your qualifications, and market rates all factor into what's considered reasonable. For your rental property, you generally don't need a separate LLC just for tax purposes, though some people do it for liability protection. That's more of a legal question than a tax one. The bank account separation is absolutely correct - if you form business entities, keep those finances completely separate from personal.

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Adaline Wong

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How exactly does the salary vs. distribution thing work with an S Corp? If I need $105k for living expenses, does that mean my salary has to be $105k? Or can some of my living expenses be paid through distributions?

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Tate Jensen

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The salary vs. distribution question is important. Your salary needs to be reasonable for your industry and services - it's not based on your personal living expenses. You can take distributions above your salary for living expenses, but the salary itself should reflect what someone would typically earn in your position. For determining a reasonable salary, look at what similar contractors in your field make as employees. You'll want documentation to support whatever salary you choose. Many tax professionals suggest keeping your salary at 50-60% of overall profits at minimum, but this varies by industry and circumstances.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Did you actually go through with forming an LLC and S Corp after using that site? I'm wondering if the hassle of all the extra paperwork and filings is really worth the tax savings.

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Peyton Clarke

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Even if you get through to the IRS, can you really trust their advice? I've heard horror stories about getting different answers from different agents. Did you record the conversation or get anything in writing?

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Vince Eh

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I was the biggest skeptic about this Claimyr service. Thought it was complete BS because I've wasted DAYS of my life on hold with the IRS trying to get help with my business tax questions. But I was desperate with S Corp filing deadlines approaching, so I tried it. Holy crap it actually works! Got a callback from an IRS agent in about 90 minutes. The agent walked me through exactly how to handle my situation with multiple 1099s and whether I needed one LLC or separate ones. For what it's worth, the agent told me if the businesses are related, a single LLC with S Corp election is often cleaner. But if they're completely different industries, separate entities might make more sense. For the rental property, they suggested looking into a separate LLC for liability reasons, but said it usually doesn't make sense to elect S Corp status for just rental income. Saved me from making a costly mistake with my business structure. Worth every penny just for the time saved alone.

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Ezra Beard

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that having an S Corp means you'll need to run payroll (either DIY or hire a service), file quarterly payroll tax returns, issue yourself a W-2, and file a separate tax return for the business. There are also state filing requirements and possibly annual fees. For your income level, these extra costs might eat into some of the tax savings. At $150k, you're right at the threshold where it starts to make sense. What I did was start with an LLC (simple, single-member) for the first year, tracked all my expenses carefully, then upgraded to S Corp status in year two when I had a better handle on my true profitability.

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This is super helpful. Do you have a ballpark on what all those extra costs add up to annually? Like between the payroll service, extra tax filing, state fees, etc.?

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Ezra Beard

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The extra costs vary depending on your state and how much you DIY, but here's a rough breakdown from my experience: Payroll service (like Gusto or OnPay): $40-60/month if you're the only employee. Some accountants include this in their package. Accountant fees for S Corp tax return: Usually $1,000-1,500 more than a Schedule C filing, though this varies widely. State filing fees: Completely depends on your state. In California it's expensive ($800 minimum franchise tax), while some states have minimal fees under $100. Bank fees for business account: Often $10-20/month unless you maintain a minimum balance. Bookkeeping: Either your time or $200-300/month for a service. All in, I budget about $2,500-3,000 extra per year for S Corp maintenance compared to sole proprietor. So you need to be saving more than that in SE tax to make it worthwhile.

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So I was in your exact position last year driving for multiple 1099 contracts. Here's what I learned about the vehicle expenses specifically since you mentioned doing a lot of driving: With an LLC/S-Corp, you have two options for vehicle expenses: 1. Actual expenses: track all gas, maintenance, insurance, depreciation, etc. 2. Standard mileage rate: use the IRS rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023) The standard rate is usually better for high-mileage newer vehicles. If you're driving 20k+ business miles per year, that's a $13,000+ deduction just from mileage! Either way, you need a mileage log. I use MileIQ app but there are tons of options.

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Aria Khan

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Can you still take the standard mileage deduction if you have an S Corp? I thought you had to use actual expenses in that case?

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You can definitely still use the standard mileage rate with an S Corp, but there's a specific way to handle it. The corporation would reimburse you (as the employee) for business mileage using the standard rate. This becomes a business expense for the corporation and isn't taxable income to you. You do need to keep proper documentation though - date, business purpose, destination, and miles for each trip. The IRS is particularly picky about vehicle expense documentation during audits.

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Sadie Benitez

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I'd suggest being really careful about that $13k shortfall you discovered - that's a significant gap that could lead to penalties and interest if not addressed quickly. You might want to make an estimated tax payment ASAP for Q4 if you haven't already. Regarding the LLC/S-Corp decision, at $150k income it's definitely worth considering, but don't rush into it without understanding all the implications. The tax savings can be substantial (potentially $5k-10k annually), but there are ongoing compliance costs and responsibilities. One thing that might help: since you're already tracking business miles for your driving, make sure you're maximizing that deduction regardless of your entity structure. With significant business driving, you could easily have $10k+ in vehicle-related deductions alone. For the rental property, your colleague is probably right - most people don't need a separate LLC just for one rental from a tax perspective. The liability protection aspect is separate from taxes though. Given your tight cash flow situation ($105k needed for expenses), I'd recommend getting a proper analysis done before making any entity changes. The "reasonable salary" requirement for S-Corps could impact your cash flow planning significantly.

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Leila Haddad

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This is really solid advice about making that estimated payment quickly. I'm actually dealing with a similar situation where I underestimated my quarterly payments. The IRS penalty calculator on their website can help you figure out exactly how much you owe and whether you'll face penalties. One thing I learned the hard way - even if you end up forming an LLC/S-Corp for next year, you still need to handle this year's tax shortfall as a sole proprietor. The entity election typically doesn't take effect until the following tax year unless you file everything very early in the year. @a6dd59e13835 is spot on about not rushing the decision. I spent weeks researching before making the jump, and even then I wish I had consulted with a CPA who specializes in contractor/freelancer taxes. The reasonable salary requirement can really impact your cash flow planning, especially when you need most of your income for living expenses.

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