Do I have to pay US taxes on money received from my foreign family member's business?
I'm a US citizen and I recently sent some money to my grandfather who lives in Colombia. He's a Colombian citizen (not a US citizen) and he used the funds I sent him to launch a small business there. The business is 100% in his name legally, though he considers me an unofficial "co-owner" since I provided the initial capital. My grandfather mentioned that once the business becomes profitable, he plans to wire me back my initial investment plus potentially some additional money from the profits. The business will be taxed in Colombia since that's where it operates and he's the sole legal owner. I'm wondering about my tax obligations in the US when he starts sending me money back. Do I need to pay US taxes on: 1. The return of my initial investment? 2. Any extra money he might send me from the business profits? 3. Any gifts he might give me from his personal income from the business? I'm not performing any work for his business or providing any services - I've just supplied some startup funds. If his venture does well, I might send him more money in the future to help him expand. I'm trying to understand my tax obligations before this arrangement gets more complex.
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Giovanni Colombo
This is a great question that touches on several areas of international taxation. Let me break this down: When your grandfather returns your initial investment, that portion should not be taxable to you. It's essentially returning capital you provided, not income. However, any profits or earnings beyond your initial investment would likely be considered income and subject to US tax. Even though the business is taxed in Colombia and legally owned by your grandfather, the IRS looks at the substance of arrangements, not just their form. The fact that your grandfather considers you a "co-owner" and is sharing profits could potentially trigger what's called Passive Foreign Investment Company (PFIC) rules or Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) rules, depending on ownership percentages and control. These come with complex reporting requirements. If he's sending money as true gifts (with no expectation of services or return), you might fall under gift tax rules. Foreign gifts over $100,000 from a nonresident alien require filing Form 3520, but you generally wouldn't pay tax on these gifts.
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Amara Okafor
•Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I'm a bit confused about the PFIC and CFC rules you mentioned. Since my name isn't on any official documents and I don't have any legal ownership, would these rules still apply to me? Also, is there any way to differentiate between what's considered a "return on investment" versus just a gift from my grandfather?
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Giovanni Colombo
•The IRS often looks at substance over form, so even without your name on documents, if you're functioning as an investor receiving returns, they may consider you to have an ownership interest. For PFIC/CFC concerns, it's about actual control and economic interest rather than just paperwork. Since your grandfather considers you a co-owner and plans to share profits based on your investment, this creates a potential tax relationship beyond just gifts.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
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StarStrider
•How does this AI thing actually determine what's considered a gift versus investment return? Does it look at the documents from both countries? My sister sends me money from her shop in Mexico but it's super inconsistent and I never know how to report it.
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Dylan Campbell
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Ava Martinez
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking the dates and amounts of ALL money transfers both ways! I got audited last year because my uncle in Vietnam was sending me money from his business, and I couldn't properly document which portions were returns of my initial investment versus actual profit. The IRS assumed it was ALL taxable income because I couldn't prove otherwise. Cost me thousands in taxes plus penalties. Keep meticulous records of every transfer with notes about what each payment represents.
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Amara Okafor
•That's really helpful advice - thank you! What kind of documentation would you recommend I keep? Right now I'm just planning to save the wire transfer receipts, but should I be doing something more formal like writing up agreements with my grandfather?
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Ava Martinez
•Definitely save all wire transfer receipts, but that's just the beginning. You should create a simple investment agreement document (doesn't need to be fancy) that clearly states your initial investment amount and the terms for repayment. For each payment received, have your grandfather specify in writing (even just an email) what the payment represents - whether it's returning your initial capital, profit distribution, or a personal gift. Keep a running spreadsheet tracking the remaining balance of your initial investment so you can clearly show when you've been fully paid back and subsequent payments are profits.
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Miguel Ramos
I see lots of complicated advice here but y'all are forgetting the option to just file the FBAR and check that foreign accounts box on Schedule B and leave it at that. Thats what my tax guy told me to do for money my parents business in Korea sends me. As long as you're reporting the accounts exist, the rest is just splitting hairs unless we're talking about serious money (like $50k+).
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Giovanni Colombo
•I have to respectfully disagree with this approach. While filing the FBAR is absolutely necessary if you meet the $10,000 threshold, it only reports the existence of foreign accounts - it doesn't address your tax obligations on the income. The IRS treats different types of foreign income very differently. Investment returns, business profits, and gifts all have distinct reporting requirements and tax treatments. Taking a simplified approach could lead to significant underreporting penalties if audited.
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