Do I need to pay US taxes on income received from abroad when helping family?
I'm a US citizen who recently sent some money to my grandmother in Colombia. She's Colombian (not a US citizen) and used the funds I sent to launch a small cafe in Bogotá. The business is entirely in her name, but she considers me as an unofficial partner since I provided the initial capital. Her cafe is starting to do really well, and she's talking about sending me back my original investment plus some additional profits through wire transfers. She's also mentioned wanting to send me occasional gifts from the business earnings. I'm confused about my tax obligations here. Do I need to pay US taxes when my grandmother returns my original investment? What about if she sends me additional money as gifts or profit sharing? The business is solely in her name and she's paying all the Colombian taxes on the income already. If things keep going well, I'm considering sending her more money to expand the business. I'm not providing any services or doing any work for the cafe - just the funding.
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Diego Rojas
This is a great question with some important international tax implications. As a US citizen, you're generally taxed on your worldwide income regardless of where it comes from. When your grandmother returns your original investment, that portion wouldn't typically be taxable since it's just returning capital you already owned. However, any additional amounts beyond your original investment would likely be considered income and would be taxable in the US. If she's sending you "gifts," the IRS might view these as disguised income if they're related to your investment. The fact that you provided funding and expect returns makes this look more like an investment arrangement than true gifts, even if the business is in her name. You might also need to consider Foreign Bank Account Reporting (FBAR) requirements if you have financial interests or signature authority over foreign accounts that exceed $10,000 at any point during the year.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thanks for the info! So if I understand correctly, getting back exactly what I put in isn't taxable, but anything extra would be? What if she just randomly decides to send me money occasionally that isn't directly tied to my investment? Also, what forms would I need to file for this kind of income?
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Diego Rojas
•You've got it right about the return of your original investment not being taxable, while any profits or extra would be considered taxable income - likely as investment income. If she sends you money that's genuinely not connected to your investment, it could potentially qualify as a gift. Foreign gifts over $100,000 from a nonresident alien would need to be reported on Form 3520, but wouldn't be taxable. However, the IRS might question whether these are truly gifts if there's a pattern of you investing and then receiving "gifts" that look like returns on that investment.
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GalaxyGuardian
Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you look into whether this arrangement could be considered a PFIC (Passive Foreign Investment Company). If your grandmother's business meets certain tests, your gains could be subject to complicated and usually unfavorable PFIC tax rules. Also, depending on how much you've sent, you may need to file Form 8938 (Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets) if your investment exceeds certain thresholds. The penalties for not filing these international information returns are harsh.
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Chloe Martin
•What exactly qualifies as a PFIC? My grandmother's cafe is definitely an active business where she works daily, not some passive investment vehicle. Would that still fall under those rules? And are the Form 8938 thresholds different for different countries?
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GalaxyGuardian
•A PFIC is generally a foreign corporation where either 75% or more of the income is passive (like interest or dividends) or 50% or more of assets produce passive income. An actively run cafe would typically not qualify as a PFIC, so you're probably safe there. Form 8938 thresholds don't vary by country, but they do differ based on filing status and whether you live in the US or abroad. For a single person living in the US, you'd file if your foreign financial assets exceed $50,000 on the last day of the tax year or $75,000 at any time during the year. The thresholds are higher for married couples and US persons living abroad.
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Aisha Abdullah
Honestly the bigger issue is that ur grandma considers u an "owner" but legally ur not. This is a HUGE risk. If something goes wrong with the business, u have zero protection. If she passes away suddenly, u have no legal claim to anything. I'd strongly suggest getting an actual ownership agreement in writing, even if it's a small percentage. Otherwise ur basically making an unsecured loan with no documentation.
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Ethan Wilson
•This is such an important point! My dad sent money to his brother in Mexico for a similar arrangement and when they had a falling out, he couldn't prove he was entitled to anything. Lost everything because there was no paper trail showing it was an investment rather than a gift.
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