Do I have to pay taxes on income received from abroad if my relative's foreign business returns my investment?
I'm a US citizen and I recently sent money to my grandfather who lives in Ecuador. He's not a US citizen, just a local there. He used the funds I sent him to launch a small business in Ecuador, and the company is totally in his name, though he considers me an unofficial co-owner. When his business starts making profit, he plans to wire me back my initial investment money and possibly some additional earnings. The thing is, I'm confused about the tax implications on my end. Do I need to pay US taxes when he returns my original investment? What about if he occasionally sends me money as "gifts" from his company profits? Since I don't officially own any part of his business (he's the sole legal owner), and his business income is already being taxed in Ecuador, I'm wondering if I'm on the hook for anything here in the States. If his venture takes off, I'm planning to send him additional funds to expand. Just to be clear, I'm strictly providing capital - I don't do any actual work for the business or provide services. Any insights on how this all works tax-wise would be super appreciated!
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Zara Malik
The tax situation you're describing can get a bit tricky, but I'll try to break it down in simple terms. When your grandfather returns your original investment, that portion generally isn't taxable income - it's considered a return of capital. However, any amount above your original investment would likely be considered income and would be taxable in the US. The IRS requires US citizens to report worldwide income regardless of where it was earned. Even though you don't legally own the business, the fact that you're investing money and expecting returns creates what might be viewed as an informal partnership arrangement. If your grandfather is sending you profits from the business, those would typically be considered income, not gifts, since they're related to your financial contribution. For gifts from abroad, there's an annual exclusion amount ($17,000 for 2024), but given your description, the IRS would likely view these transfers as income rather than true gifts because of the business relationship. I'd strongly recommend documenting everything clearly - your initial investment amounts, any returns, and keeping records of all transfers. This will be important for tax reporting purposes.
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Luca Marino
•Thanks for the info! So if my grandpa sent me like $5000 back from my original investment and then another $2000 as "extra" from the profits, I'd only pay taxes on the $2000 part? Also, how would the IRS even know about money coming in from Ecuador? Do banks report all international wire transfers?
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Zara Malik
•Yes, conceptually that's correct. If you invested $5000 and received that same $5000 back, that portion would generally be considered a return of your principal investment and not taxable. The additional $2000 beyond your original investment would likely be considered income and would be taxable. Banks and financial institutions are required to report international wire transfers, especially those over $10,000, though many institutions report smaller transfers as well. Additionally, under FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act), foreign financial institutions are required to report assets held by US account holders to the IRS. The reporting systems have become quite comprehensive in recent years.
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Carmen Ortiz
Just to add some practical advice - make sure you're keeping meticulous records of every dollar you send to Ecuador and every dollar that comes back. Create a spreadsheet tracking dates, amounts, purpose (investment vs return vs profit distribution), and save all wire transfer receipts. This documentation will be crucial if you're ever questioned about the nature of these transfers. Also, don't forget about FBAR requirements if you have signature authority or financial interest in foreign accounts that exceed $10,000 at any point during the year, even if the account is technically in your grandfather's name.
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Andre Rousseau
•Does the FBAR thing apply if I don't have my name on any foreign accounts but I'm still sending/receiving money to family abroad? My parents in the Philippines use their local account but sometimes send me money from it.
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Carmen Ortiz
•FBAR filing requirements typically apply when you have a financial interest in or signature authority over foreign financial accounts that exceed $10,000 in aggregate at any time during the calendar year. If the account is solely in your parents' names and you don't have signature authority, you generally wouldn't need to file an FBAR just for receiving transfers from their account. However, you still need to report any income you receive from abroad on your tax return, regardless of FBAR requirements. The nature of the transfers matters - if they're genuine gifts from your parents, different rules apply than if they're income or business distributions.
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Zoe Papadakis
Something nobody has mentioned yet - you might want to consider formalizing this arrangement with your grandfather. Having an actual written agreement that specifies the nature of your contribution (loan, equity investment, etc.) and expected returns would make the tax treatment much clearer. Without documentation, the IRS could potentially recharacterize the entire arrangement in a way that's less favorable to you. Also, there are specific reporting requirements if you invest in foreign corporations (like Form 5471) that might apply depending on how his business is structured and your level of ownership interest.
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Jamal Carter
•Absolutely this! I had a similar setup with my uncle's business in Brazil and it turned into a nightmare during an audit because we had nothing in writing. The IRS ended up treating all the money I sent as gifts (which hit gift tax limits) and all returns as pure income. Documenting everything properly from the start would have saved me thousands.
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StarStrider
•Thank you all for the amazing advice! I definitely need to formalize the arrangement with my grandfather. I hadn't considered that without proper documentation, the IRS might interpret our arrangement differently than intended. I'll work on creating a written agreement that clearly specifies my contribution is an investment and outlines the expected returns. I've started tracking all transfers in a detailed spreadsheet as suggested. Would it be better to classify this as a loan with interest rather than an equity investment to simplify the tax treatment? I'm wondering which approach would be cleaner from a reporting perspective.
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