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Have you considered filing under the IRS Voluntary Disclosure Practice? It's designed specifically for situations like yours where taxpayers with unreported income want to come clean. The benefit is that it can help you avoid criminal prosecution and potentially minimize penalties. The key is being proactive before the IRS discovers the issue themselves. Since the owner's daughter is already looking for a CPA, that's a good start. Make sure they're familiar with the voluntary disclosure process. Also, do you have any records at all of how much you were paid over the years? Bank deposits, notes, anything? Reconstructing 13 years of income will be challenging, but having some documentation will help tremendously.
I've never heard of the Voluntary Disclosure Practice before. Is that different from the regular process of just filing late returns? Would I need to do anything special to qualify for that? For records, I have some bank statements showing cash deposits, and I've kept rough notes about my hours and pay rates over the years in various notebooks. Nothing official from the employer though. Would bank statements be enough to show the IRS what I earned?
The Voluntary Disclosure Practice is more formal than just filing late returns. It involves coming forward to the IRS before they discover the non-compliance, providing complete and truthful disclosure, and cooperating with the IRS to determine the correct tax liability. While it doesn't guarantee immunity from prosecution, historically it has significantly reduced the likelihood of criminal charges in cases of willful non-compliance. Your bank statements showing cash deposits will be extremely helpful. Combined with your notes about hours and pay rates, you actually have more documentation than many people in similar situations. The IRS understands that reconstructing income from years ago is difficult, especially with cash payments. They generally accept reasonable reconstructions based on the best available information. Make sure to be consistent and realistic with your income estimates - sudden unexplained variations might raise questions.
One thing that nobody has mentioned yet - you might qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit for some of those years. Depending on your income level and whether you had any qualifying children, this could potentially result in refunds for some years even after accounting for the taxes you should have paid. The EITC has a 3-year limitation for claiming refunds, but if you're filing all these past returns anyway, you might as well claim it for the most recent 3 years if you qualify. This could help offset some of what you'll owe for the older years.
This is actually a really good point. I worked as a volunteer tax preparer, and many people don't realize that the EITC can result in substantial refunds for lower-income workers. If your annual income was under about $60,000 (varies by year and filing status), it's definitely worth looking into.
For your original question, if price is your main concern, I've seen TurboTax Deluxe CD/download on sale at Costco for around $40-45 (vs. $60+ retail). Just be aware the CD/download versions are different from the online versions - they're a one-time purchase rather than the online subscription. Also, one trick I've learned: start with TurboTax Free Edition online first, enter all your basic info, then if you need to upgrade for investments, sometimes they'll offer you a discounted upgrade rather than paying full price right away.
Thanks! Is there any difference feature-wise between the download version and online version if I go with Deluxe? Also, do you know if the download version includes a state filing or is that extra?
The download version and online version have essentially the same features for each tier, but the pricing structure is different. The download is a one-time purchase that you install on your computer, while the online version is a subscription service. Most people find the online version more convenient, but the download can be cheaper. State filing is almost always an additional cost regardless of which version you choose. The download versions typically charge around $40 per state, which is separate from the federal filing cost. Some retailers occasionally offer bundle deals that include one state filing, but that's not common - always check the packaging details to confirm what's included.
Just a heads up - if your investments are at all complicated (crypto, multiple brokerages, etc), TurboTax Premier is probably worth the extra money over Deluxe. I tried to save money with Deluxe last year and ended up having to upgrade anyway and paid MORE than if I'd just bought Premier from the start.
I would second this. Premier is only about $20-30 more than Deluxe and well worth it if you have investments. I've used it for years and the investment import feature works much better with Premier than with Deluxe.
Another option you haven't heard yet - if you usually go to a tax professional, they might be able to help. My CPA has special channels to contact the IRS Practitioner Priority Service. When I had this exact IP PIN issue last year, my accountant was able to get it resolved in about 2 days through their professional channels. Might be worth asking if you use a tax preparer!
We usually file ourselves using tax software. Do you think it's worth paying for a CPA just to get help with the IP PIN issue? I'm wondering if the cost would be worth it at this point.
It depends on your situation. If you have a relatively simple return that you're comfortable filing yourself, hiring a CPA just for the IP PIN might be overkill. The services others mentioned like taxr.ai or Claimyr would probably be more cost-effective in that case. However, if you have a more complex tax situation that might benefit from professional review anyway, this could be a good excuse to establish a relationship with a CPA. Many offer reasonable rates for basic returns, and the peace of mind plus PIN assistance might be worth it. Some also offer a free initial consultation where you could ask about their ability to help with the IP PIN specifically.
If nothing else works, you can always file by mail without the IP PIN. It's not ideal because it will take FOREVER to process, but it's better than not filing. When you paper file without your IP PIN, the IRS will just manually verify your identity which adds like 8-12 weeks to processing. I had to do this 2 years ago and got my refund eventually, but it took until August! Just make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING.
This is actually bad advice. Filing without your IP PIN when you've been issued one can cause serious problems. The whole point of the IP PIN program is to prevent identity theft, so the IRS will flag your return and it could trigger an audit or further identity verification steps.
Just want to add that your boyfriend should seriously consider getting into compliance ASAP using the IRS Voluntary Disclosure Program. My cousin thought the same "too small to notice" thing until the IRS froze his accounts and garnished his wages - they took 75% of his paycheck! He couldn't even pay rent. The penalties are so much worse when they come to you versus when you go to them voluntarily. The interest compounds daily too, so that debt is just growing every single day he waits.
This is what I'm afraid of! Do they really take that much of your paycheck? We'd be completely screwed if that happened. Do they give any warning before they start garnishing?
Yes, they can take up to 70-80% of your paycheck depending on your filing status and number of dependents. They do send multiple notices before taking action - usually at least 3-4 letters demanding payment or response. The problem is many people ignore these notices hoping they'll just go away, which only makes things worse. The garnishment itself comes with very little warning once they've sent all required notices. My cousin had received several letters over 6-8 months but ignored them all. Then suddenly his employer notified him that they received a garnishment order, and his next check was drastically reduced.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is state taxes. If he's not filing federal, he's probably not filing state either. Some states are WAY more aggressive than the IRS about collections. My brother ignored California state taxes for just 2 years and they suspended his driver's license and professional license. Couldn't legally drive or work in his field until he set up a payment plan.
Exactly this. I work in construction too and my state's contractor licensing board suspended my license for unfiled state taxes. Lost my ability to legally work for 3 months while straightening it out. My advice - file back taxes even if you can't pay them all at once. The failure-to-file penalties are much worse than failure-to-pay.
Chloe Robinson
My in-laws INSISTED for years that getting a tax refund was "giving the government an interest-free loan" and I should adjust my withholding to get $0 refund. When I finally did that last year, I ended up owing $780 which triggered an underpayment penalty! Apparently you need to pay at least 90% of your tax liability during the year or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller). Nobody ever talks about the safe harbor rules when giving that advice about refunds!!
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Diego Flores
ā¢This is a great point! I've always found the "don't give the government an interest-free loan" advice to be overblown. With today's savings account rates, the interest you'd earn on that money throughout the year is minimal compared to the stress of potentially owing at tax time. For most W-2 workers, a small refund is actually good peace of mind.
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Chloe Robinson
ā¢Exactly! I calculated it out and even with a $2,400 refund (which is what I typically get), at 4% interest I'm only "losing" about $50-60 over the course of a year. That's well worth the peace of mind of not having to worry about owing money. Plus, I've gotten much better at immediately putting my refund into my Roth IRA each year so it starts working for me right away rather than getting spent.
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Anastasia Kozlov
One huge misconception I see: people thinking getting married will automatically save them on taxes. The "marriage penalty" still exists for some high-income couples, especially if both earn similar amounts. I've seen colleagues rush to get married in December "for tax purposes" without understanding they might actually pay more! Your video should definitely cover marriage tax implications.
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Sean Flanagan
ā¢Is there an income threshold where this starts to happen? My partner and I both make around $85k and are thinking about getting married next year. Would we be affected by this?
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