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How do I properly report IRA contributions for 2020 & 2021 tax years?

I'm in a bit of a mess with my IRA reporting and could use some guidance. Here's what happened: I filed my 2020 taxes back in February 2021 using TurboTax. Then in March 2021, I opened my first traditional IRA and made a $6,000 nondeductible contribution for the 2020 tax year. I didn't amend my 2020 return or file Form 8606 for that year. That same month (March 2021), I converted the entire $6,000 from my traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. There weren't any gains at that point. Also in March 2021, a Fidelity advisor talked me into rolling over my old 401k plans into a rollover IRA. They set me up with automatic contributions, and I've put about $4,000 into this rollover IRA so far. I'm really confused about what I need to do now: - Should I amend my 2020 tax return to report the $6,000 nondeductible traditional IRA contribution? Or just file Form 8606 for 2020 separately? Or both? I know there might be a $50 penalty for filing the 8606 late. - Do I owe taxes on the $6,000 I converted from traditional to Roth? I switched to FreeTaxUSA this year (TurboTax got too expensive), and after going through all the prompts, it doesn't look like I need to pay tax on the conversion. But I'm not sure if I'm entering everything correctly. I paid for their Deluxe version and asked these same questions but haven't gotten a response yet (probably because of the holiday weekend). Any help would be appreciated!

You've got a few things to sort out here, but it's manageable! Let's break it down: For your 2020 nondeductible traditional IRA contribution made in 2021, you need to file Form 8606 for tax year 2020. This form reports nondeductible contributions and establishes your basis. You don't necessarily need to amend your entire 2020 return if the only change is this nondeductible contribution - since it doesn't affect your tax liability. The Form 8606 can be filed on its own, though you might face that $50 penalty for filing it late. Regarding the Roth conversion question - since your traditional IRA contribution was nondeductible, you've already paid tax on that money (it was after-tax dollars). If you converted it to a Roth before any earnings accumulated, then typically there wouldn't be additional tax due on the conversion. However, the pro-rata rule comes into play if you have other pre-tax money in any traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRAs (including that rollover IRA). Your rollover IRA from the 401k complicates things because now you have pre-tax money in the IRA system. For any future conversions, you'll need to calculate the taxable portion using the pro-rata rule.

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You can file just the Form 8606 for 2020 without amending the entire return. Yes, you might face the $50 penalty for filing it late, but sometimes the IRS doesn't enforce it if you weren't required to file it with your original return (though technically you were supposed to). The Roth conversion is reported on your 2021 return because that's when the conversion actually took place, regardless of which tax year the contribution was for. FreeTaxUSA should guide you through reporting this on Form 8606 for 2021. Since the money in your traditional IRA was all nondeductible contributions with no earnings at the time of conversion, the conversion would typically be non-taxable. However, if you had that rollover IRA in place before completing the conversion, the pro-rata rule would apply, and some portion might be taxable.

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Thanks for the response! So just to be clear, I can just file Form 8606 for 2020 by itself without amending the entire return? And I should expect to pay the $50 penalty? What about reporting the conversion on my 2021 taxes? FreeTaxUSA is asking about conversions, but I'm confused because the conversion happened in 2021 but was for a 2020 contribution.

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You can file just the Form 8606 for 2020 without amending the entire return. Yes, you might face the $50 penalty for filing it late, but sometimes the IRS doesn't enforce it if you weren't required to file it with your original return (though technically you were supposed to). The Roth conversion is reported on your 2021 return because that's when the conversion actually took place, regardless of which tax year the contribution was for. FreeTaxUSA should guide you through reporting this on Form 8606 for 2021. Since the money in your traditional IRA was all nondeductible contributions with no earnings at the time of conversion, the conversion would typically be non-taxable. However, if you had that rollover IRA in place before completing the conversion, the pro-rata rule would apply, and some portion might be taxable

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I dealt with this exact situation recently. Make sure you file Form 8606 for BOTH tax years - one for 2020 (to report the nondeductible contribution) and one for 2021 (to report the Roth conversion). The 2020 form establishes your basis of $6,000, and the 2021 form reports the conversion and calculates the taxable amount. Since your rollover IRA existed when you did the conversion, you'll need to use the pro-rata formula to determine how much is taxable. Pro-rata formula: (Nondeductible contributions ÷ Total IRA balance) × Amount converted = Nontaxable portion For example, if your total IRA balance (including the rollover IRA) was $46,000 when you converted $6,000, then: $6,000 ÷ $46,000 × $6,000 = $782.61 would be the nontaxable portion, and the rest would be taxable.

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But wait, wouldn't the timing matter here? If they did the conversion before rolling over the 401k, then the pro-rata rule might not apply since there was only after-tax money in the IRA system at conversion time, right?

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You're absolutely right, the timing is crucial. I missed that detail. If the Roth conversion happened before the 401k rollover, then there would only be the $6,000 nondeductible contribution in the IRA system at that time. In that case, the entire conversion would likely be nontaxable. The pro-rata rule looks at all IRA balances as of December 31 of the year of conversion, but there's an exception for funds that weren't in the IRA system at the time of conversion. If the 401k rollover happened after the conversion, the rollover wouldn't affect the taxability of the conversion.

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Has anyone else had problems with FreeTaxUSA calculating Form 8606 correctly? Last year it kept showing my conversion as fully taxable even though I had basis in my traditional IRA.

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I had issues with it too. You need to make sure you enter your "basis" from prior years correctly. There's a specific screen where you enter the total nondeductible contributions you've made in previous years. If you skip that or enter zero, it assumes everything is taxable.

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