Forgot to file Form 8606 for 4 years of Backdoor Roth conversions - Do I need to amend my 1040s?
I've gotten myself into a bit of a tax situation and I'm trying to figure out if the fix will be simple or complicated. Since 2018, I've been doing the Backdoor Roth IRA strategy - making non-deductible IRA contributions with after-tax money, then immediately converting the funds to my Roth IRA. However, I just discovered my tax preparer hasn't been filing Form 8606 for any of these years (2018-2021). When I checked my IRS transcript, there's no record of the 8606 forms. I asked my preparer to file the missing 8606 forms and amend my 1040s, but he insisted it's unnecessary since I never took deductions and my taxes were prepared in a way that prevented double taxation of the IRA distributions. I don't want to argue with him, but I need this fixed properly to avoid problems down the road. I've spent hours reconstructing my 8606 basis from 2018-2021. Here's my situation: - All contributions to my traditional IRA were non-deductible and made with after-tax dollars - I converted 100% to Roth as soon as the funds were available - This is my only IRA/Roth account, so no pro-rata rule complications - My 1099-Rs show the distributions as taxable, but I never paid tax on them - Lines 4A/4B on my 1040s for these years are completely blank - For 2019, I made contributions around January 2020 and converted then My main question: I know I need to file the missing 8606 forms for all these years, but do I also need to amend my 1040s? I'm hoping amendments aren't necessary since I didn't take deductions and didn't pay taxes on the distributions - meaning I shouldn't owe additional tax or be due any refunds. I'm planning to meet with a new tax preparer, but want to educate myself first. For reference, here's what I've reconstructed for my 8606 forms (lines 15c and 18 would be 0 for every year): 2018: $7,000 contribution, $7,000 conversion 2019: $7,500 contribution, no conversion that year 2020: $7,500 contribution, $15,000 conversion (including 2019 contribution) 2021: $7,500 contribution, $7,500 conversion Thanks for any insights!
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Nia Davis
You've got a problem that needs fixing, but it's not as bad as you might think. Form 8606 is absolutely required when you make non-deductible IRA contributions - it's how you establish basis and prove you already paid tax on those dollars. The good news is you can file late 8606 forms without amending your returns in many cases. Since you never took deductions for your contributions AND you didn't report the conversions on lines 4a/4b of your 1040s, you'll need to file the missing 8606s, but you might not need to amend the 1040s. Your tax preparer was technically wrong - these forms are required. But they might be right that it won't change your tax liability. The IRS just needs the paper trail showing these were after-tax contributions that shouldn't be taxed again. I'd recommend filing all missing 8606 forms ASAP. Each form stands alone - meaning you can submit prior year forms without amending the 1040. Just write "FILED PURSUANT TO SECTION 301.9100-2" at the top of each form so the IRS knows you're using their relief provision for late filing. If your 1040s don't show the conversions at all (lines 4a/4b blank when they should have values), you might need to amend. But focus on getting those 8606s in first and consult with your new preparer.
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Mateo Perez
•Thanks for the advice! Quick question - will I get penalized for filing these 8606 forms so late? And how exactly do I submit prior year forms at this point? Do I mail them in separately or something?
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Nia Davis
•There is technically a $50 penalty for each late 8606, but in practice, the IRS often doesn't assess it when you voluntarily correct the situation. The relief provision I mentioned (Section 301.9100-2) is specifically designed to help people in your situation. To file the prior year forms, you'll need to complete a separate 8606 for each tax year, clearly mark the tax year on each form, and mail them separately to the IRS. Don't e-file them. Make sure to write that relief provision statement at the top of each form, keep copies of everything, and send them certified mail so you have proof of filing.
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Aisha Rahman
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CosmicCrusader
•Did you actually have to upload all your tax docs to this site? Seems risky giving some random website all your financial info. Did they explain what needed to be amended vs what didn't?
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Ethan Brown
•How does this tool handle the basis carryover calculations? That's where I always get confused with Form 8606 - making sure the basis from prior years gets factored into current calculations correctly. Does it track that automatically?
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Aisha Rahman
•I only needed to upload my 1099-Rs and 5498 forms (the IRA contribution forms), not my entire returns. They have a secure upload system and delete your docs after processing. It's built by tax pros so it's legit. Yes, the tool specifically shows which returns need amending by comparing what was filed versus what should have been filed. In my case, one return was missing the distribution completely while the others just needed the 8606 forms but not full amendments. The basis tracking is actually the best part! It automatically calculates your running basis year over year and shows exactly how it carries forward. That's why I found it so helpful - it eliminated all the confusion about whether I was carrying the right amounts forward each year.
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Ethan Brown
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Yuki Yamamoto
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Carmen Ortiz
•Holding your place in line? How does that even work? Sounds like a scam to me. The IRS phone system is basically a black hole - I find it hard to believe any service could actually get through.
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Andre Rousseau
•How much did you end up owing in penalties for the late 8606 forms? I've heard mixed things about whether the IRS actually enforces that $50 penalty per form.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•It's definitely not a scam - their system basically calls the IRS and navigates the phone tree for you, then when it detects a human voice, it calls your phone and connects you. No more sitting on hold for hours. I didn't end up paying any penalties at all. The IRS agent I spoke with said they rarely assess the $50 penalty for late 8606 forms when taxpayers voluntarily correct the issue. She recommended I write "Filed pursuant to Section 301.9100-2" at the top of each form to request penalty relief, which I did. It's been over a year now and I haven't heard anything about penalties.
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Carmen Ortiz
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Zoe Papadakis
Your tax preparer honestly sounds incompetent. Form 8606 isn't optional - it's literally the ONLY way to establish basis in a non-deductible IRA. Without it, the IRS default position is that all your Roth conversions are fully taxable. If you ever get audited in the future, you'll have a hard time proving those were after-tax contributions without the 8606 forms. Even if your tax liability doesn't change, the forms are still required. The blank lines 4a/4b on your 1040s are also concerning. Those should show the conversion amounts even if the taxable portion was $0. That's a red flag that could trigger unnecessary scrutiny.
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Luca Marino
•That's what has me worried. I'm definitely filing the 8606 forms, but I'm concerned about the 1040s with the blank 4a/4b lines. If I understood correctly, line 4a should show the gross distribution amount (matching my 1099-R Box 1), while 4b should show $0 since it was non-taxable. Would filing amended returns fix this potential red flag? Or is filing the missing 8606 forms enough?
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Zoe Papadakis
•You're exactly right about lines 4a/4b. Line 4a should show the full distribution amount from your 1099-R Box 1, and line 4b should show $0 (assuming there was no taxable portion). In your situation, I would definitely recommend filing amended returns to properly report those conversions on lines 4a/4b. The missing 8606 forms establish your basis, but the 1040 amendments show the IRS that the distributions actually occurred and were properly handled. This is a clear case where amendments are warranted. It won't change your tax liability, but it completes the paper trail and removes a potential audit trigger. The IRS computers match 1099-R forms to your return, and when they see distributions not reported on your 1040, that creates a mismatch.
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Jamal Carter
Has anyone used the Fill-in Forms option on the IRS website for submitting old 8606 forms? It looks like they only have current year forms available and I need to do 4 years worth of these things.
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AstroAdventurer
•You can find prior year forms on the IRS website. Go to IRS.gov, search for "prior year forms" and you'll find PDFs for each tax year. For Form 8606, make sure you're using the correct year's version since the form does change sometimes. I did this last year for 3 missed 8606 forms. Print them out, fill them in by hand, and mail them in separately (one form per envelope). Don't forget to mark them with that Section 301.9100-2 relief provision at the top!
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Jamal Carter
•Thanks! I found them. Any idea if I'm supposed to include any kind of explanation letter or just mail in the completed forms by themselves?
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Isabella Santos
•I'd recommend including a brief cover letter explaining that you're filing the forms late under Section 301.9100-2 relief provisions. Keep it simple - just state that you're submitting Form 8606 for tax year [YEAR] to establish basis for non-deductible IRA contributions, and that you're requesting relief from late filing penalties under the automatic relief provision. The IRS processors appreciate having context, and it helps ensure your forms get processed correctly rather than sitting in a pile somewhere. Make sure to keep copies of everything you send!
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Brandon Parker
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! My tax preparer also missed filing 8606 forms for three years of backdoor Roth conversions. After reading through all these responses, I think the consensus is pretty clear - you definitely need to file those missing 8606 forms ASAP. Based on what everyone's saying, it sounds like you'll likely need to amend your 1040s too since your lines 4a/4b are blank. The IRS expects to see those conversion amounts reported even if the taxable portion is $0. That's a pretty significant oversight that could cause problems down the road. I'm planning to file the missing 8606 forms first with that Section 301.9100-2 relief provision noted at the top, then work on amendments for the 1040s. The good news is that since we both made non-deductible contributions and didn't take any deductions, there shouldn't be any additional tax owed - just paperwork to clean up. Definitely find a new tax preparer who actually understands retirement account rules! The fact that yours insisted the forms weren't necessary is a huge red flag. These forms are literally required by law when you make non-deductible IRA contributions.
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Giovanni Gallo
•This is really helpful to see someone else going through the same thing! I'm feeling much more confident about the path forward after reading everyone's experiences here. The Section 301.9100-2 relief provision seems to be the key for avoiding penalties on the late 8606 forms. One thing I'm still unclear on - should I file all the missing 8606 forms first and then tackle the 1040 amendments, or do them simultaneously? I'm leaning toward your approach of doing the 8606s first since those establish the basis, then amending the returns to properly report the conversions on lines 4a/4b. Also completely agree about finding a new preparer! It's concerning that a tax professional wouldn't know these forms are mandatory. Makes me wonder what other things might have been missed over the years.
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Lucy Lam
I've been through this exact scenario and can confirm what others have said - you absolutely need those 8606 forms filed, and yes, you'll likely need to amend your 1040s too since lines 4a/4b are blank. Here's what worked for me: I filed the missing 8606 forms first (all four years separately by mail with the Section 301.9100-2 notation), then waited about 6 weeks before filing the 1040X amendments. The 8606s establish your basis, and the amendments fix the missing conversion reporting on your returns. The blank 4a/4b lines are definitely problematic. Even though your conversions were non-taxable, the IRS computers still expect to see those 1099-R amounts reported somewhere on your return. Without proper reporting, you're essentially sitting on a ticking time bomb for future audits. Your old preparer's advice was completely wrong - Form 8606 isn't optional when you make non-deductible IRA contributions. It's the ONLY way to prove to the IRS that you already paid tax on those dollars. Without it, they'll assume all your conversions are fully taxable if you ever get audited. The good news is this is fixable and you shouldn't owe any additional tax since you never took deductions. Just be prepared for some paperwork and definitely find a CPA who actually understands retirement accounts. I learned this lesson the hard way too!
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Alice Coleman
•This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was looking for! The timeline you described makes a lot of sense - filing the 8606s first to establish basis, then following up with the 1040X amendments after they've had time to process. I'm curious about one thing though - when you filed your amendments, did you need to include copies of the 8606 forms you had already submitted, or did the IRS systems automatically link them together? I want to make sure I don't create any confusion by sending duplicate paperwork. Also, how long did the whole process take from start to finish? I'm hoping to get this cleaned up before this year's tax season gets too crazy, but I want to set realistic expectations for how long the IRS will take to process everything. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to know this worked out for someone else in the same situation!
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