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Aurora St.Pierre

I paid just $15 for 35 acres of land - what capital gains tax will I owe when selling?

So about 7 years ago, my great uncle passed away and left me this weird piece of land way out in rural Montana. The lawyer handling the estate said the land was basically worthless (no road access, super remote, can't build on it) so they listed it officially as a $15 transfer on the deed just to make it legal. I've been paying the tiny property tax bill every year (like $23) and forgot about it. Fast forward to now, and apparently some mining company is interested in buying all the properties in that area. They sent me a letter offering $87,000 for my 35 acres! I'm obviously going to sell because this is basically free money, but I'm worried about the tax situation. Since I only paid $15 for this land (technically), does that mean my capital gains would be calculated on basically the entire $87,000? What tax rate would apply here? I'm a teacher making about $58,000 a year if that matters. Would there be any way to reduce the tax hit? I've never dealt with capital gains before and I'm completely clueless about how this works.

Grace Johnson

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You're looking at long-term capital gains tax since you've owned the property for more than a year (7 years in your case). The taxable amount would indeed be the difference between your basis ($15) and the selling price ($87,000), so approximately $86,985 in capital gains. For your income level of $58,000 as a teacher, you would likely fall into the 15% long-term capital gains tax bracket (which applies to single filers with taxable income between $44,626 and $492,300 for 2024). So you'd be looking at approximately $13,048 in federal capital gains tax. Don't forget about state taxes too - Montana has its own capital gains tax that you'll need to factor in. Also, you should document any improvements you made to the property while you owned it, as these can be added to your basis and reduce your taxable gain.

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Jayden Reed

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Would the $23 per year in property taxes they've been paying count as improvements to the property or can those be added to the basis somehow? Also, does it matter that it was inherited even though there was a $15 transfer price listed?

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Grace Johnson

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Property taxes you've paid wouldn't count as improvements to increase your basis. Improvements would be things like putting in a road, adding utilities, or other physical enhancements to the property. The inheritance aspect is interesting. If you truly inherited the property, your basis would typically be the fair market value of the property at the date of your uncle's death (step-up in basis), not the $15 transfer amount. This could significantly reduce your capital gains. You should check the exact wording on the deed and possibly consult with a tax professional who specializes in inheritances to verify if you actually received a step-up in basis. This could make a substantial difference in your tax liability.

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Eli Wang

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Does the software actually help with state-specific capital gains issues too? Montana has some weird rules from what I've heard.

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Lola Perez

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Don't forget to check if the land qualifies for any special tax treatments! If it's been used for agriculture, forestry, conservation, or certain other purposes, there might be additional tax benefits or exclusions available. Also, since this was family property, check if your uncle had been using it for any income-generating purpose (even minimal like hunting leases). If so, you might have additional options for how it's classified for tax purposes.

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Thanks for this tip! As far as I know, the land has just been sitting empty. My uncle never did anything with it and neither have I. I actually had to look it up on Google Maps when I inherited it because I'd never even been there! But now I'm curious - would the fact that it might have mineral rights (since a mining company wants it) change anything about the tax situation?

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Lola Perez

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The mineral rights aspect could definitely impact your tax situation! If the mining company is interested primarily in the mineral rights, you might want to consider selling just the mineral rights while retaining ownership of the surface land. This might qualify for different tax treatment. Also, if you sell mineral rights, you might be able to treat the income as a royalty arrangement over time rather than a lump sum capital gain, which could be more tax advantageous depending on your situation. I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in mineral rights before accepting any offer. This kind of specialized property often has very specific tax implications that a general tax preparer might miss.

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Consider doing a 1031 exchange if you're interested in owning other real estate! You can defer paying capital gains tax if you reinvest the proceeds into a "like-kind" property. You'd need to identify the new property within 45 days of selling and complete the purchase within 180 days, but it could save you a lot in taxes.

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Riya Sharma

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My brother tried to do a 1031 exchange last year and it was a complete nightmare with all the timing restrictions. Make sure you have a qualified intermediary lined up BEFORE you sell if you go this route!

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Santiago Diaz

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Is no one going to mention that $87,000 for 35 acres that was supposedly "worthless" sounds suspiciously low if a mining company is interested? You might want to get your own appraisal or consult with a lawyer before accepting their first offer. Mining companies typically don't make offers unless they know something valuable is there.

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Millie Long

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THIS! My cousin sold some "worthless" land in Wyoming to a mining company for what seemed like a great price, only to find out later they discovered a major lithium deposit. Do your homework before selling!

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Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about that! I was just excited about getting money for land I thought was worthless. Maybe I should look into what exactly they're mining for and get a second opinion on the value. Thanks for bringing this up - definitely don't want to get taken advantage of!

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