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Brewery owner here! We went with an LLC taxed as an S-Corp (1120-S) and it's been great for our situation. The self-employment tax savings are substantial. One thing to consider - with craft breweries, equipment depreciation is a big deal tax-wise. The other advantage to S-Corp status is that it looks more established to distributors and larger retailers. We found this helped when trying to get our beers into larger chains and regional distribution networks. Make sure whatever you decide, you have solid operating agreements that clearly outline capital contributions, profit distributions, and decision-making authority. The tax form is just one part - the legal structure between partners is equally important.
That's super helpful context from someone in the same industry! Can I ask how you handled the reasonable salary requirement for S-corps? I've heard the IRS scrutinizes brewery owners who take too little salary to avoid payroll taxes.
Great question! For breweries, this is indeed tricky. We looked at what comparable positions would earn in our area (head brewer, operations manager, etc.) and set salaries accordingly. For the first two years, our salaries were about 50-60% of our total compensation, with the rest as distributions. The IRS does look closely at this industry, so we documented our salary-setting process carefully. We also made sure our salaries increased as the business grew more profitable. Having documentation that shows your salary determination wasn't arbitrary is key if you ever get questioned. Our accountant had us keep notes from our meetings where we discussed compensation and market rates.
Don't forget to consider state-specific implications too! Some states treat these entities differently. For example, California has that annoying $800 minimum franchise tax for LLCs and S-Corps, plus an LLC fee based on gross receipts that can get pricey for breweries with high-volume/low-margin products.
From my experience as a tax preparer, here's a practical answer: for fed taxes, an $84 change to your W2 would result in roughly $20 extra tax depending on your bracket. State would be even less. Technically yes, you're supposed to amend. Realistically? The chance of the IRS coming after you for this is extremely low. They have bigger fish to fry. But if you're the rule-following type or plan to apply for a mortgage or something where super clean tax records matter, then go ahead and file the 1040-X. Just my two cents - not telling you to break rules, just being practical about the situation!
Do you know how much it typically costs to file an amended return if you use a tax preparer? I'm in a similar boat but with a $120 discrepancy and wondering if it's worth paying someone to fix it.
Most tax preparers charge between $75-150 to file an amended return, even for something simple like this. This is why many people choose not to amend for very small amounts - the preparation fee often exceeds the tax difference. If you're comfortable doing it yourself, you can file a 1040-X for free. It's not extremely complicated for a simple W2 correction. You'd just need to fill out the form showing the original amounts, the corrected amounts, and the difference, then provide a brief explanation like "Received W2c from employer with wage adjustment.
I'm confused about something - when you get a W2c, doesn't the employer also send that information to the IRS? So wouldn't they already know about the correction and expect your numbers to match up?
Yes, your employer sends the corrected W2c to the Social Security Administration, which then shares the info with the IRS. So the IRS will eventually have both sets of numbers. This is actually why small discrepancies like this sometimes get flagged in their automated system - their records won't match what you filed.
Has anyone dealt with damaged tax documents due to the hurricane? My 2021 paperwork got wet in the flooding and some of it is barely readable now. Not sure how to proceed with filing when I can't clearly see all the numbers.
You can request copies of your wage and income transcripts from the IRS for free. Go to IRS.gov and search for "Get Transcript Online" or call their transcript request line at 800-908-9946. This will give you all the info reported to the IRS like your W-2s and 1099s for 2021. For bank statements and other documents, contact those institutions directly for replacements.
Anyone know if we're eligible for any special tax benefits or deductions related to Hurricane Helene damages when filing these older returns? My 2021 taxes don't relate to the hurricane obviously but I'm filing them now while dealing with all the hurricane aftermath.
Unfortunately, you can't claim Hurricane Helene disaster losses on your 2021 return since the disaster occurred in 2024. Casualty losses must be claimed for the tax year in which they occurred. You'll need to claim Helene-related losses on your 2024 tax return (which you'll file in 2025) or potentially on an amended 2023 return if you choose to claim the loss in the immediately preceding year, which is sometimes allowed for federally declared disasters. But for your 2021 return that you're filing now, you can only claim the extension - not any hurricane-related losses.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that since you never actually conducted business (no income at all), you might be able to deduct these as startup expenses on your personal return instead of dealing with all the S-Corp headaches. IRS Publication 535 covers business startup costs, and you can deduct up to $5,000 in the first year. Might be simpler than filing a whole corporate return for just some travel expenses.
This is incorrect advice. Once they formed the S-Corp, they need to file as an S-Corp. The startup costs would be claimed on the S-Corp return, not their personal return directly. The S-Corp loss then flows through to their personal return via the K-1. If they had incurred the expenses before forming the business entity, your advice might apply, but not in this case.
I just went through this exact situation last year. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. File the 1120-S for your S-Corp (due March 15) 2. Report the expenses as business losses 3. Those losses will flow through to your personal return via K-1 4. For affordable filing, check out TaxHawk - I paid about $45 for my S-Corp return One other thing to consider - since you never actually did business, you might want to formally dissolve the S-Corp to avoid ongoing filing requirements and fees in future years. Otherwise, you'll need to file annual reports with your state and tax returns every year even if the business remains dormant.
Elijah Jackson
Since you're already using QuickBooks, make sure you're leveraging its full potential for your year-end processes. For your 1099-NECs, you need to have vendors properly flagged as 1099 contractors with complete W-9 information entered. Run the 1099 verification report ASAP to see what's missing. For S-Corp reasonable compensation documentation, create a formal corporate minute documenting how you determined your salary amount. This is crucial if you ever get audited. Don't forget about state filings too! Many S-Corps have state filing requirements beyond just the federal return. QuickBooks reports filtered by state can help organize this information.
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Henrietta Beasley
ā¢Thanks for the QuickBooks tips! One question - for the 1099 vendors, some of them were added years ago and I'm not sure we ever got proper W-9s. What's the best way to handle that this late in the year when I need to issue them in just a few weeks?
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Elijah Jackson
ā¢For those vendors without W-9s, send them the form immediately with a deadline of 7 days for return. Most vendors are used to this process and will respond quickly. You can email them the form with a clear subject line mentioning the urgent tax deadline. If any vendors don't respond, you'll still need to issue their 1099-NECs by the deadline, but you might have to do so with incomplete information. In that case, use whatever information you have on file, but be aware that you may need to issue corrected forms later. The IRS can penalize for missing or incorrect TINs, so document your good-faith efforts to obtain this information by keeping records of your requests.
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Sophia Miller
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction for your S-Corp and Schedule C! It's a potentially huge tax benefit (up to 20% of your business income) that many DIY filers miss. Also, remember that S-Corp reasonable compensation requirements mean you MUST pay yourself a market-rate salary before taking distributions. If your salary is too low compared to distributions, it's a huge audit flag.
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Mason Davis
ā¢How do you determine what a "reasonable" salary is though? I've heard different things from different accountants. Is there some kind of formula or percentage of profits?
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