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Has anyone noticed if the new K-1 format changes how guaranteed payments are reported? I'm a partner who receives guaranteed payments and I'm wondering if this affects the self-employment tax calculation.
Thanks for clarifying! That makes sense. Do you know if there's a sample of the new form available somewhere online that shows the exact layout? Would be nice to see what I'm going to be dealing with.
Yes, the IRS has published draft versions of the new K-1 forms on their website. If you go to IRS.gov and search for "2023 draft forms" you should be able to find it. They usually have PDF versions of all the draft forms with instructions. The final version might have some minor changes, but the draft will give you a good idea of the new layout and where to find the guaranteed payments section.
Does anyone know if the new K-1 breakout format changes how we handle foreign tax credits? I have partnership interests with income from several countries and it's always been a nightmare to sort through.
The new K-1 format actually improves the reporting of foreign income and taxes. Instead of lumping foreign taxes into a single box with a statement, the new format breaks out foreign income by country and provides clearer reporting of the foreign taxes paid. This should make calculating your foreign tax credit much easier. There's a new specific section for international tax matters that provides more granular information. You'll see a country-by-country breakdown rather than having to decipher sometimes confusing supplemental statements. This is especially helpful if you have income from multiple countries since you can more easily track which income relates to which foreign tax.
That's such a relief to hear! The supplemental statements were always inconsistent between my different partnerships. Having it directly on the form with a standard format will make things so much clearer. Thanks for the info!
One thing to watch out for - if your cousin received any money directly (like that spending money from grandparents) OVER $100k, she would need to file FBAR forms reporting foreign gifts. But it sounds like her gift was much smaller than that threshold. Also, some countries have tax treaties with the US that affect how scholarships are taxed. Might be worth checking if there's a specific US-Ecuador tax treaty that applies here.
The gift was definitely under $5k, so nowhere near that threshold! I hadn't even thought about tax treaties between countries. Is there an easy way to check that?
You can find tax treaties on the IRS website under "Tax Treaties" - they have a page listing all countries with tax treaties with the US. For Ecuador specifically, there are some provisions but they mostly relate to income earned from working, not scholarships or grants. Given the small gift amount and the fact that all scholarship money went to qualified expenses, your cousin is almost certainly in the clear with no filing requirements.
My daughter studied abroad in similar circumstances and we were told by her university that international students should file Form 8843 "Statement for Exempt Individuals with a Medical Condition" even if they don't have to file a tax return. It's not actually a tax return, just a statement that explains your presence in the US. Maybe worth looking into?
This happens to A LOT of people! The payroll systems don't talk to each other. Your total income for the year puts you in a higher tax bracket, but each individual W-2 was withholding as if that was your only income for the year. Here's a super simplified example: - First $10k you earn might be taxed at 10% = $1,000 in taxes - Next $10k might be taxed at 12% = $1,200 in taxes - So $20k total income should have $2,200 withheld But if each payroll system thinks you're only making $10k total for the year, they each withhold only $1,000, for a total of $2,000 withheld. That leaves you $200 short when you file!
Omg that makes so much sense explained that way! So basically neither payroll system knew my "true" tax bracket because they only saw part of my income. Is there any way I could have prevented this during the year?
Exactly! You've got it. To prevent this in the future, you have a few options: You can fill out a new W-4 form and give it to your employer. On line 4(c), you can specify an additional amount to withhold from each paycheck. Calculate approximately how much you're short for the year and divide by your remaining paychecks. Another option is to check your withholding midway through the year using the IRS Withholding Estimator tool online. It helps you see if you're on track and suggests adjustments. Some people in this situation also make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS to cover the shortfall, but adjusting your W-4 is usually simpler.
Your probably in a higher tax bracket now with both incomes combined. Its like the govt thinks your making less than you are when each W2 gets procesed separately so they take less tax. Then when you combine them its like "surprise you make more than we thought so give us more money now!" I had this same problm last year when I had two jobs. My tax guy said to always check the "withhold at higher single rate" box on your W4 if you have multiple income sources or just put an extra $50 per check in the "additional withholding" line. Saves the surprize bill in April!
Random but important - don't forget that if you're issuing 1099s, the deadline is January 31st to both send them to recipients AND file with the IRS. They changed this a few years back, and it's no longer like the old days where you had extra time to file with the government. Also, if you miss the deadline or file incorrectly, the penalties can be pretty steep - starting at $50 per form if you're less than 30 days late, and going up from there. With a $74k commission, the IRS will definitely expect to see that 1099 filed.
Is there any way to get an extension on the January 31st deadline? I'm dealing with a backlog of paperwork from several properties and might need extra time.
There's no extension available for furnishing 1099s to recipients - that January 31st deadline is firm. However, you can request a 30-day extension for filing with the IRS by submitting Form 8809 (Application for Extension of Time to File Information Returns). The catch is that the extension only applies to filing with the IRS, not to giving the forms to your recipients. So you'd still need to get the 1099s to the brokerages and contractors by January 31st, even if you get extra time to submit to the government. And the Form 8809 needs to be filed BEFORE the original due date - you can't request it after you've already missed the deadline.
Quick tip - if you're filing just one or a few 1099-NECs, the IRS actually has a free online filing portal called the FIRE system (Filing Information Returns Electronically). You don't need fancy software if you only have a few to do. You'll need to register for an account first, which takes a little time to set up, but once you have it, filing is pretty straightforward. For real estate commissions specifically, I've done this several times without issues.
Owen Devar
Have you considered asking the clinic to pay you a reduced rate for these workshops instead of doing them completely unpaid? When I was in a similar situation (I'm a dietitian), I negotiated a flat fee for each community workshop - much lower than my regular rate, but at least something. This solved the tax problem because then it was just regular 1099 income. Plus, having even a small payment makes it clear this is a professional service, not volunteer work. My clinic actually agreed pretty quickly when I framed it as "I need this to be a professional service with a paper trail for tax and liability purposes.
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Logan Chiang
ā¢That's actually a really smart approach I hadn't considered! Did you have to push hard to get them to agree to it, or were they pretty understanding once you explained the situation?
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Owen Devar
ā¢They were surprisingly understanding. I just explained that for tax and professional liability reasons, I needed these workshops classified as paid professional services rather than volunteer work. I suggested a nominal fee ($75 per workshop in my case, which was about 25% of my normal rate for that time). They actually appreciated the more professional arrangement because it also clarified expectations on both sides. We created a simple addendum to my existing contract that specified exactly what these workshops would cover and what materials I'd provide. Having skin in the game made them value the workshops more, and it gave me actual income to report rather than trying to figure out complex tax deductions.
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Daniel Rivera
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your contract specifies these workshops as a requirement, could you argue they're not really "marketing" but rather part of your contractual duties? That might change how they're treated tax-wise. I'm a contract therapist too, and my agreement specifically states that community outreach is part of my contractual obligations, so all expenses related to those activities are just regular business expenses on my Schedule C - not specifically marketing expenses.
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Sophie Footman
ā¢This is an important distinction! The IRS treats marketing expenses and regular business expenses somewhat differently. If these workshops are actually part of your contractual obligations, then all related expenses would be straightforward business expenses. Check your contract carefully to see if there's any language about community outreach or professional education being part of your duties. If so, you might have a stronger case for deducting related expenses.
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