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One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure you're using the right tax years' forms when amending! The Schedule C from 2023 is different than the one from 2014. You need to use the original year's forms for each amendment. You can find old tax forms on the IRS website in their "Prior Year" section.
Thanks for mentioning this! I would have totally messed that up. Do you know if I need to include all the original attachments again or just the ones I'm changing?
You only need to include the forms and schedules that you're changing with your Form 1040X. So definitely the Schedule C for your business expenses, but if you're not changing other aspects of your return, you don't need to include those other forms again. Also, you'll need to file a separate 1040X for each tax year you're amending. Don't try to combine multiple years on one form - the IRS will reject it.
Don't forget to include a detailed letter explaining exactly why you're amending! I amended taxes from 8 years ago and they initially rejected it until I sent a very specific explanation letter with my documentation. Be super clear about the tax resolution company's error and why you're just now fixing it.
Good advice. Also worth noting that the IRS generally has 10 years from the date of assessment to collect taxes owed. So depending on exactly when these returns were filed/assessed, the collection statute of limitations might be approaching.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - have you considered forming an LLC to hold the property? My partner and I did this when we bought our home together. The LLC holds the title, we each own 50% of the LLC, and we have an operating agreement that specifies all the details about payments, what happens if we break up, etc. This approach has some advantages with liability protection and makes the tax situation cleaner in some ways. But there are setup costs and annual fees to maintain the LLC, so it might not be worth it depending on your situation.
Wouldn't using an LLC mean losing the mortgage interest deduction? I thought you could only deduct mortgage interest on your primary residence if you personally own it, not if it's owned by an LLC?
You're right to question this - an LLC typically would cause you to lose the mortgage interest deduction for a personal residence. What we actually did was create a partnership agreement rather than a full LLC (I simplified in my original comment). The partnership agreement gives us similar protections in terms of clearly defining ownership and responsibilities, but allows the property to remain in our personal names for tax purposes. This way we each get to deduct our portion of the mortgage interest while having clear documentation of our arrangement. Tax rules around entity structures can get complicated, so definitely consult with a tax professional before going this route.
Has anyone mentioned gift tax issues yet? My partner and I ran into this when we bought together. If one person is making substantially larger payments toward the mortgage than their ownership percentage, the IRS might consider the excess amount a gift, which could have gift tax implications.
I don't think that's correct. The annual gift tax exclusion is $17,000 per person for 2023 (probably higher for 2025), and it's only an issue if you exceed that amount. Plus, you'd have to file a gift tax return but probably wouldn't owe any actual tax unless you've used up your lifetime exemption, which is over $12 million.
Just wanted to add my two cents as someone who's been using the trust/LLC structure for several Amazon businesses for years. The "chain of disregarded entities" explanation from earlier comments is correct. Here's how I handle it on my returns: 1. I include a statement with my 1040 explaining the structure 2. I file two Schedule Cs (one for each spouse) since we both work in the business 3. I make sure to include the LLC's EIN on both Schedule Cs (even though it's disregarded) 4. I title the Schedule C business name as "[My Name] SOLE PROP DBA [LLC Name]" I've been audited once, and this approach was accepted without issue. The key is documentation and consistency. If you're still uncertain, check out Revenue Ruling 2004-77, which specifically addresses disregarded entities in situations like yours.
This is super helpful! I like your approach with the business name format. One follow-up question - when you split the Schedule Cs between spouses, do you also split the expenses proportionally? Or can one spouse claim certain categories of expenses while the other claims different ones?
I split both income and expenses proportionally based on our work contribution percentage. So if we're doing a 60/40 split, each Schedule C shows that percentage of both the revenue and expenses. You could technically allocate specific expense categories to each spouse if those expenses directly relate to their specific duties, but that gets messy and might invite more scrutiny. The proportional approach is simpler and generally easier to defend if questioned.
Has anyone considered that Rev. Proc. 2002-69 might apply here? It specifically addresses situations where husband and wife own an entity through a living trust.
Rev. Proc. 2002-69 is specifically about community property states, which OP mentioned they're not in. It allows married couples in community property states to treat their wholly-owned LLC as either a disregarded entity or partnership. Since OP is in a non-community property state, this wouldn't apply directly to their situation.
Don't forget you might need to pay state taxes on that unreported income too! The IRS typically shares this information with your state tax authority, so you might get a similar notice from them in a few months.
Make sure you respond by the deadline even if you don't have all your documentation yet! You can send a partial response explaining that additional documentation is coming. If you miss the deadline without any response, they may assess the full tax amount automatically. I had a CP2000 for unreported stock sales last year, and the key was keeping communication open with the IRS. They're actually pretty reasonable if you're responsive and can explain your situation.
That's really helpful, thanks! If I tell them I'm waiting on more documentation, do you know approximately how much extra time they typically give?
In my experience, they usually give an additional 30 days if you ask for an extension and explain why. Be very specific about what documents you're waiting for and when you expect to receive them. I included a line in my response letter that said "I am awaiting final documentation from XYZ Casino which they have confirmed will be sent by [specific date]. I respectfully request an extension until [date + 1 week] to provide this final documentation." They approved my extension request without any issues. The key is being specific rather than vague about what you're waiting for and when it will arrive.
Millie Long
An important thing to watch out for with rental property K-1s is the passive activity loss limitations. Since you mentioned you do "absolutely nothing" to manage the property, your loss is definitely passive and may be limited. If your modified adjusted gross income is under $100,000, you might be able to deduct up to $25,000 of rental losses under the active participation exception. But that phases out completely when your MAGI hits $150,000. If you're above that threshold, those losses get suspended until you either have passive income or dispose of your interest in the partnership.
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KaiEsmeralda
ā¢Does receiving the K-1 automatically make you a "material participant" in the business? I'm in a similar situation with a family business and don't know if I can claim the losses.
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Millie Long
ā¢No, receiving a K-1 does not automatically make you a material participant. Material participation is determined by how much time and effort you put into the activity. There are seven tests for material participation in IRS Publication 925, but generally you need to work 500+ hours in the activity during the year to be considered a material participant. For rental activities specifically, they're automatically considered passive regardless of your participation hours, unless you qualify as a real estate professional (which requires 750+ hours in real estate activities and more time in real estate than any other occupation).
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Debra Bai
Does anyone know if these K-1 losses affect the QBI deduction? I have a similar rental partnership and heard something about QBI being reduced by losses.
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Cassandra Moon
ā¢Yes, rental losses can affect your QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction. Under Section 199A, QBI is calculated for each business activity and can be reduced by losses. If your rental activity is considered a qualified trade or business (which depends on several factors), the net loss would result in no QBI deduction for that activity. Additionally, net losses from qualified businesses can offset QBI from other profitable qualified businesses, potentially reducing your overall QBI deduction. It gets complicated quickly, which is why tracking these losses properly is so important.
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