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I went through a similar situation last year. For 2021-2023, most current software works fine, but for 2017-2020, I had to get creative. I ended up using a combination of approaches: - For 2021-2023: Used current version of FreeTaxUSA (their premium version handles Schedule C well) - For 2018-2020: Found prior year versions of TaxAct Business - For 2017: Had to use an accountant since it was so old One tip: before you start, download all your bank statements for those years and create a simple spreadsheet to track income and expenses by category for each year. Makes the actual tax prep go much faster.
How much did TaxAct charge for each prior year? And did you have any issues with the 2017 filing from the accountant?
TaxAct charged around $60-70 per year for their business editions when I used them, though prices may have changed. I found it reasonable considering the alternatives. For the 2017 return, the accountant charged me $350, which was actually less than I expected. There weren't any issues with the filing itself, but they discovered I had been calculating depreciation incorrectly on some equipment, which affected the subsequent years. This meant I had to make some adjustments to my 2018-2020 returns as well. If you have depreciating assets, make sure you're tracking them consistently across all tax years - that's something the software won't necessarily flag for you.
Quick question - has anyone tried UltraTax for old business returns? My friend recommended it but it seems expensive.
20 As a fellow Texan, I wanted to add that you should look into state-specific requirements. Texas doesn't have a state income tax, but if you plan to work with clients who have income in other states, you'll need to understand those state tax systems too. Also, most people don't realize that even with all the courses, nothing prepares you for tax preparation like actual practice. Consider volunteering with VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) for a season. It's a great way to get hands-on experience with supervision before striking out on your own.
7 Does VITA actually help with learning business tax prep though? I thought they only do basic 1040s and don't handle Schedule C filers?
20 You're right that VITA primarily focuses on basic returns, though some sites do handle simple Schedule C returns with limitations on income amounts and deductions. It won't give you comprehensive business tax experience, but it does provide excellent training in the fundamentals and client interaction skills. For business tax experience specifically, you might consider trying to work part-time at a local CPA firm during tax season. Many firms hire seasonal preparers and will train you on their procedures. Another option is finding a mentor through your local chapter of the National Association of Tax Professionals (NATP) or the Texas Society of Enrolled Agents.
6 Anyone have thoughts on the pricing structure for a new tax preparer? I'm also starting out and not sure if I should charge by form, by hour, or flat fees based on return complexity.
13 I started out charging by form and it was a DISASTER. Clients hated the uncertainty and I had to have awkward conversations when additional forms were needed. Now I do tiered flat fees based on return complexity (basic W-2 only, itemized deductions, Schedule C, etc) and both me and my clients are much happier.
One "loophole" that's actually legitimate is setting up a Solo 401k with mega backdoor Roth capabilities. I contribute $22,500 as employee deferral, then my S corp contributes up to 25% of my salary as employer contribution, AND I can make after-tax contributions that immediately convert to Roth. Totally legit strategy that lets me put away over $60k/year in tax-advantaged accounts. Also, don't overlook that you can potentially deduct 20% of your qualified business income through the QBI deduction, though phase-outs start at higher income levels.
Can you explain more about the mega backdoor Roth through an S corp? My accountant mentioned this but didn't explain how it actually works with the S corp structure specifically.
Sure thing. The key is setting up your Solo 401k plan with the right provisions. Your plan needs to specifically allow for both after-tax contributions (beyond the normal $22,500 employee limit) and in-plan Roth conversions. With an S corp, you wear two hats - employee and employer. As employee, you contribute up to the standard limit ($22,500 for 2023, plus catch-up if over 50). As employer, your S corp can contribute up to 25% of your W-2 wages. Then, if your plan allows it, you can make additional after-tax contributions up to the total annual limit ($66,000 for 2023 combining all sources), then immediately convert those after-tax dollars to Roth. This gives you way more Roth conversion potential than just the standard backdoor Roth IRA.
Don't forget about the home office deduction! I write off 22% of my home expenses (based on square footage) including utilities, internet, mortgage interest, property taxes, and even depreciation. You do need a space used "regularly and exclusively" for business, but if you have that, it's totally legit and can save thousands. My S corp also pays for my cell phone (I document business use at 80%), internet (70% business), and even streaming services I use for research. The key is proper documentation - keep a log of business use percentage.
For what it's worth, I had a similar issue with a client last year. We ended up using the "transfer" line in Part I of Form T to move timber volume from one account to another. We included a detailed statement explaining the reason for the transfer. Make sure you also adjust your depletion rate calculations going forward. You'll need to recalculate your depletion units for both categories ($/MBF and $/cord). If you've already been depleting based on incorrect proportions, you may need to make a catch-up adjustment. Also, don't forget to check if your state has any special timber tax reporting requirements that might be affected by this reclassification!
Thanks for mentioning the state reporting requirements - I hadn't considered that. Do you recommend any particular approach for the catch-up adjustment if we find the depletion has been incorrect in prior years?
For catch-up adjustments, I typically use a cumulative approach rather than amending prior returns. Calculate what the correct cumulative depletion should have been through the current year based on actual harvests using the corrected depletion rates. Then adjust the current year depletion to reach that cumulative total. Include a disclosure statement explaining the methodology and calculations. As long as you're not changing the total basis, just reallocating between timber types, this approach has been accepted in my experience. The key is thorough documentation of volumes, rates, and calculations to show the trail from old to new reporting.
Has anyone used one of the specialized timber tax software programs? We're trying to decide whether to invest in something specific for our forestry clients or just modify our existing tax software approach.
I've used TimberTax Pro for the last 3 years and it's been worth every penny for our timber clients. It handles the Form T complexity much better than regular tax software, especially for tracking multiple timber accounts and different measurement units.
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll look into TimberTax Pro. Does it integrate with any of the mainstream tax preparation packages or is it standalone?
Emma Johnson
Have you considered filing for an extension with your employer? When I was in a similar situation, I explained to HR that I was actively working on resolving my tax situation but needed more time. I showed them proof that I had contacted a tax professional and was gathering documents, which bought me an additional 30 days. Most companies just want to see that you're being responsible and taking action, not necessarily that everything is completely resolved within their initial deadline. Maybe prepare a simple timeline showing the steps you've taken and when you expect to have everything filed.
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Connor O'Brien
β’Thank you for this suggestion. I did actually meet with HR yesterday and showed them that I've started the process. They were more understanding than my direct manager and said they mainly need to see proof that I've engaged with a tax professional and have a concrete plan. Did you use a special type of tax person for your situation? I'm wondering if I need someone who specializes in delinquent returns.
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Emma Johnson
β’I used an Enrolled Agent who specialized in tax resolution and delinquent returns. They tend to be more affordable than CPAs while still having full representation rights with the IRS. The key is finding someone who regularly handles past-due filings rather than just normal tax prep. I recommend asking specifically about their experience with employment verification issues and their typical timeline for preparing delinquent returns. My EA was able to provide a formal letter stating I had retained their services and outlining our filing plan, which satisfied my employer while we completed the actual work. Most tax pros who work in this area understand the employment implications and can help document your progress for HR.
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Ravi Patel
Don't forget to file your state returns too! I learned this the hard way - got my federal returns caught up but completely overlooked state taxes. Then got hit with a state tax lien that showed up on my credit report and caused even more problems with my employer. If you moved between states, you'll likely need to file part-year resident returns for both states for the year you moved. Each state has different requirements and deadlines for past due returns.
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Astrid BergstrΓΆm
β’This is so important! I had the same issue with state taxes being overlooked. And if you had self-employment income, some cities and local jurisdictions also require tax filings. For example, I had to file a city income tax return for my freelance work that I didn't even know existed until I got a notice.
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