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Did you try filing a paper extension instead? Form 4868 can be mailed in even after electronic filing problems. As long as you estimate your taxes correctly and include payment, you'll be fine. The IRS considers your extension filed as of the postmark date. Make copies of everything though! And send it certified mail so you have proof of when it was sent.
Thank you for this suggestion! I hadn't even thought about paper filing as an option. Do you know if there's any additional form I need to fill out since the electronic extension was rejected? And how long does it typically take for the IRS to process a paper extension?
You don't need any additional forms - just the standard Form 4868 for extension. Write a brief note in the margin referencing the electronic rejection if you want, but it's not required. Paper processing is taking about 3-4 weeks right now according to what I've heard, but the postmark date is what matters for filing on time, not when they process it. Just be sure to estimate your taxes properly and include payment if you owe. The extension gives you more time to file, but any taxes owed were still due on April 15th. Keep a copy of everything and the certified mail receipt in your records.
Has anyone else noticed that TurboTax is glitchy af this year? My brother had the same error code happen and it turned out it was a TurboTax problem not an IRS problem!
YES! TurboTax kept rejecting my roommate's return for "duplicate filing" but when he called, they admitted it was a glitch in their system, not the IRS. They had to escalate it to their tech team and it took 3 days to fix. Might be worth calling TurboTax support directly to see if it's a known issue.
Something similar happened to me with my unused LLC. Even after filing the zero returns, I discovered I also had to pay the minimum franchise tax in my state (California) which was $800, despite never making a penny with the business. Make sure you check if your state has these kinds of minimum taxes or fees that apply regardless of business activity. That might be what they're trying to collect through the offset.
Wait WHAT? You had to pay $800 for a business that never operated? That seems absolutely ridiculous! Is that legal?
Yes, unfortunately it is legal. California charges an $800 minimum franchise tax to all LLCs registered in the state, whether they do business or not. Many states have similar fees, though California's is notoriously high. The logic behind it is that you're paying for the privilege and benefits of having limited liability protection, regardless of whether you use it. First-year LLCs in California now get a break on this fee, but after that, you owe it annually until you properly dissolve the entity. That's why it's so important to formally dissolve an LLC you're not using - otherwise these fees keep accumulating year after year.
Did you also file your Articles of Dissolution with the Secretary of State? The tax department and Secretary of State are completely separate in most states, and you need to close your LLC with BOTH agencies.
In my experience as someone who's been through several audits, just pay it and move on. If the mistake was genuinely a typo, then amending would show the same result anyway. The $200 interest is pretty standard - remember that money has time value, and you essentially had an interest-free loan from the government for 5 years. One thing to consider: check if your state tax was also affected by this typo. Often errors on federal returns impact state returns too, and you might have a state tax notice coming as well.
Good point about the state tax! I didn't even think of that. How long would the state typically take to catch up after an IRS audit?
States usually find out within a year after the IRS audit is completed. The IRS and state tax authorities share information, though the timing varies by state. Some states automatically adjust your state tax when they receive info about federal changes, while others require you to file an amended state return within a specific timeframe (usually 30-90 days) after your federal adjustment. If I were you, I'd be proactive and check with your state tax department now. It's always better to address it early rather than let additional interest accumulate if you do owe more.
I had almost the exact same situation! Freaked out when I got the audit letter but it was just a stupid typo on my W-2 transcription. I was wondering about amending vs just paying too.
I'd just pay it. In my experience, amending old returns is a headache and often triggers more scrutiny. Plus you'd still owe the interest regardless.
My return was rejected for Schedule 3 issues last year too. Check if you have any of these common Schedule 3 problems: - Did you claim the Retirement Savings Contribution Credit (Savers Credit) but your income was too high to qualify? - Foreign Tax Credit calculations incorrect (especially if you have international investments) - Estimated tax payment dates or amounts don't match IRS records - Education credits transferred incorrectly from Form 8863 - Math errors when summing Part I or Part II The specific error code on your rejection letter is crucial - it tells you exactly which line on Schedule 3 has the problem.
Thanks for this list! The letter mentions error code 1040-SC3-745 which apparently relates to Line 10 on Schedule 3 (Excess Social Security and tier 1 RRTA tax withheld). I don't even remember entering anything there so I'm super confused. Could this happen if I had multiple W-2s and the software calculated something wrong there?
Yes, that's exactly what probably happened! Error code 1040-SC3-745 is specifically for excess Social Security withholding issues. This typically occurs when you had multiple employers during the year and collectively they withheld more than the maximum Social Security tax allowed. The 2024 Social Security wage base limit is $168,600, meaning that's the maximum amount subject to Social Security tax. If your combined wages from multiple jobs exceeded this limit, you're entitled to a credit for the excess withholding - but the calculation needs to be precise. The tax software should have calculated this correctly if you entered all W-2s accurately. Double-check that you entered the Social Security wages (Box 3) and Social Security tax withheld (Box 4) exactly as they appear on each W-2.
This might seem obvious but have you tried calling the phone number on the rejection letter? Sometimes they have a dedicated line for specific issues like Schedule 3 rejections that isn't as backed up as the main IRS number. Also, don't send in a whole new return! This just confuses their system more. File Form 1040-X (amended return) and only correct the specific Schedule 3 issue. Attach a copy of the rejection letter too.
The rejection letter phone numbers are just as useless as the main IRS line. I called the "dedicated" number on my rejection letter 23 times last month and never got through. Just endless "due to high call volume" messages and disconnects.
Samantha Johnson
Another consideration: if the payment was truly just a bonus for being named on the patent application rather than an ongoing royalty stream, it might not even be properly classified as "royalties" to begin with. Some companies have inventor reward programs that pay a fixed amount when patents are filed or granted. These are more like bonuses than true royalties since they're not tied to the commercial success or licensing of the patent. In that case, it might be more accurately reported as "Other Income" rather than royalties. Still not QBI eligible, but the tax treatment could be slightly different.
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Emily Thompson
ā¢This is actually exactly how their program works! It's a one-time payment when the patent is filed, not based on how successful the patent becomes. Do you know if that changes how I should report it? The 1099-MISC still lists it in Box 2 as royalties.
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Samantha Johnson
ā¢You should generally report income according to how it's listed on your tax forms to avoid mismatches that could trigger IRS notices. Since your company reported it in Box 2 as royalties, you should report it as royalty income on Schedule E. If you believe the payment is more accurately characterized as a bonus or award rather than a royalty, you could include a brief explanation with your tax return. However, the practical difference in tax treatment between royalty income and other income is minimal in most cases - both are subject to ordinary income tax rates but not self-employment tax.
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Nick Kravitz
Slight tangent but still relevant - make sure you understand the difference between a patent filing and a patent being granted. They're different stages in the process. Some companies pay when patents are filed, others only when they're granted (which can take years), and some pay at both stages. Might be worth checking if you'll get another payment if/when the patent is actually granted!
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Hannah White
ā¢This is a really good point. My previous employer had a tiered system - $2k when filed, $5k when granted, and then a percentage of licensing revenue if it ever generated any. Worth checking your former employer's policy.
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