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Another option you might consider is forming an LLC in your home state but electing to be taxed as an S-Corporation. This can potentially reduce self-employment taxes while giving you flexibility. I did this while bouncing between states and it worked well because: 1) I maintained my business entity in one consistent state 2) I could pay myself a reasonable salary and take distributions 3) I only had to deal with one state for business filings 4) Sales tax was still collected based on customer location regardless Remember that your personal tax residence and business entity location are separate issues that sometimes overlap.
That's interesting! How did you handle the "reasonable salary" determination? I've heard the IRS can be picky about that with S-Corps. And did you have to register as a foreign entity in other states where you were physically working?
For reasonable salary, I researched what someone would make in a similar role in my industry and documented my justification. It's generally accepted that 40-60% of your business income as salary is reasonable, but it varies by industry and circumstances. Yes, technically you're supposed to register as a foreign entity in states where you're physically working. However, many digital nomads don't do this for temporary stays (risky but common). I registered in states where I stayed more than 2-3 months to be safe. Some states have thresholds before registration is required, but they vary widely.
Has anyone actually tried the Wyoming route with a digital business? I did this last year and regret it honestly. The initial setup was easy but I ended up having to register as a foreign entity in 4 different states because my customers triggered economic nexus thresholds. Each state had different requirements and filing deadlines. Ended up spending way more on compliance than I saved.
Wyoming works great if you truly don't have physical presence elsewhere AND your sales don't trigger economic nexus in multiple states. I went this route for my consulting business that primarily works with clients in just 2 states, and it's been manageable.
That makes sense. My mistake was having customers spread across too many states and exceeding those economic nexus thresholds. Looking back, I should have incorporated in the state where I spend most of my time and just dealt with being a resident there for tax purposes. The complexity of multi-state compliance wasn't worth the theoretical tax savings.
Just a heads up - I had this exact issue when I worked 2 jobs last year. Made sure to claim my excess SS on Schedule 3, but my return got flagged for "verification" and delayed my refund by 3 months. Found out later this is pretty common when claiming excess SS tax. If possible, try to file early so you have time to deal with any potential delays. And keep all your W-2s organized in case they ask for documentation. They didn't ask me for anything, but better safe than sorry.
Did you get your full refund eventually? And did they contact you during those 3 months or was it just radio silence while they were verifying?
Yes, I did get my full refund including the excess Social Security tax amount. They didn't adjust anything once they verified my information. During those 3 months, it was mostly radio silence. I kept checking the "Where's My Refund" tool, and it just said "Your refund is being processed" the entire time. I called once after about 2 months and was told it was in the verification department and I just needed to wait. Then one day the status suddenly changed to approved, and I got the deposit a few days later.
My tax guy says we shouldn't file the 843 form at all. He said to put the excess on line 11 of Schedule 3 (the Credit for Excess Social Security Tax Withheld line). I'm using a diff tax software than you but all of them should have this. Add up all your W-2 box 4 amounts, subtract $10,453, and what's left is your credit. No need to contact employers or file extra forms. Much easier!
Thanks so much for this! I just checked my tax software and found the Schedule 3 section. You're right - there's a specific line for "Excess social security tax withheld" and it was really straightforward to enter. I was definitely overthinking this. After entering the information, my refund increased by the exact amount of my excess withholding. No need for Form 843 or contacting employers at all!
Don't forget about state taxes too! In some states, you MUST file the same status on your state return as your federal return. In others, you can choose different statuses. This could make a big difference in your overall tax picture. Also, if you're in a community property state (AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI), filing separately works totally differently - you each report half of the community income regardless of who actually earned it. Makes filing separately much less beneficial for student loan purposes in those states.
Thanks for bringing this up! We're in Pennsylvania - do you know if we'd have to use the same filing status for state as federal? I didn't even think about how this might affect our state taxes.
Pennsylvania doesn't actually have married filing jointly or married filing separately options like the federal return does. PA has a flat income tax where each person files their own return reporting their own income, regardless of federal filing status. You'll each file your own PA-40, reporting just your individual income. This is actually good news for your situation because your state tax situation won't be affected by whatever you decide for your federal return. But definitely double-check with a tax professional about your specific situation, as local taxes might have different rules.
Has anyone considered the phase-out thresholds for various credits? With your combined income around $170k, you might be close to phase-out limits for certain benefits. Filing separately sometimes changes these thresholds. For example, the student loan interest deduction starts phasing out at $145k for married filing jointly in 2025 and is eliminated at $175k. Since you're in that range, you might lose part of that deduction anyway even if filing jointly.
Make sure your brother keeps really good records about this settlement! Even without a 1099, the IRS can still find out about it if the other company deducts it as a business expense on their taxes. My friend didn't report a settlement and got a nasty CP2000 notice two years later.
That's a really good point, I didn't even think about the company deducting it on their end. I'll definitely tell him to keep all the settlement paperwork and document everything. Would you recommend he send in any specific documentation with his tax return, or just keep it all on hand in case of questions?
I wouldn't send any extra documentation with the return itself. The IRS doesn't want that unless they specifically ask for it. Just have him keep all the settlement documents, correspondence, and proof of the payment amount in a safe place for at least 7 years (the extended audit timeline). Also, when he reports it on Schedule 1, Line 8z, he should write a brief description like "Breach of contract settlement" next to it. That shows transparency and makes it clear he's not trying to hide anything.
Has your brother asked the company to reconsider providing a 1099? Even though they said they won't issue one, it's technically required for payments over $600 in the course of business. Maybe worth asking again.
Rajiv Kumar
One thing nobody's mentioned yet: If you're making under the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion amount (which you definitely are), make sure you're also looking at the tax treaties between France and the US. The treaty has specific provisions for certain types of income that might benefit you when you start investing. Also, consider opening a brokerage account with a US company that accepts foreign residents like Interactive Brokers or Schwab International. This bypasses a lot of the FATCA headaches since you're investing through US institutions rather than French ones.
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Mia Green
ā¢Are you saying I should just avoid French investment options entirely? That seems extreme just to avoid some paperwork. Are there any decent investment options that are compatible with both French and US tax systems?
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Rajiv Kumar
ā¢I'm not saying avoid French options entirely, but you should be selective. The main investments to avoid are foreign mutual funds and similar pooled investments that get classified as PFICs. Look into individual stocks, bonds, or ETFs that are listed on US exchanges even if bought through a French broker (though finding one that accepts US citizens can be challenging). Some French banks have created US-compliant investment products specifically for Americans living in France. Another option is to use a US brokerage while living abroad. The paperwork is much simpler for US tax purposes, though you'll still need to report the investment income on your French taxes. The US-France tax treaty prevents double taxation in most cases.
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Aria Washington
Don't forget about state taxes! Depending on which state you had as your last residence before moving abroad (or if you were born abroad, possibly your parents' last state), you might still have filing requirements there too. Some states like California and Virginia are notorious for trying to claim you as a resident even after you've left.
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Liam O'Reilly
ā¢This isn't relevant to the OP's situation. They said they were born in France and have lived there their whole life. There's no prior state residency to worry about.
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