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I know everyone's saying to claim it, but honestly, for only $58 in contributions, your Savers Credit is gonna be tiny. If your income is low enough to qualify for the 50% rate (which is the highest), you'd get a whopping $29. At the 10% rate? We're talking $5.80 lol. But it'll probably take you at least 15-30 mins to figure out how to properly fill out Form 8880, so you're essentially "earning" like $10-20/hour by claiming it. But hey, if you're already doing your taxes and the software handles it automatically, why not. Still, I'd focus more on trying to contribute more to retirement this year! Even small regular contributions add up over time.
But isn't it still worth claiming even if it's small? I always thought you should take every credit you qualify for, no matter how small. Plus doesn't it help establish a pattern of claiming it for future years?
Yes, it's technically worth claiming because every dollar counts. Even if it's just $5-29 back, that's still money you're entitled to. And you're absolutely right that it helps establish the habit of claiming the credit in future years when your contributions will hopefully be larger. I didn't mean to suggest skipping it entirely - just providing perspective on the time/value tradeoff. If you're using tax software, it should handle Form 8880 pretty easily, making it definitely worth the few minutes to enter your contribution. My main point was to focus on increasing those retirement contributions going forward, as that's where the real value is long-term.
Dont 4get that the Savers Credit is NON-REFUNDABLE!! This means if u dont owe any tax it wont help u. So many ppl miss this and get disappointed. Check ur tax liability first b4 getting excited about Form 8880. If ur tax is already 0 then the credit won't matter.
Just want to throw in my experience - I switched from an accountant to DIY last year using FreeTaxUSA and it was WAY easier than I expected. The federal filing is free and state is only like $15. I also itemize (mortgage, charitable donations, etc) and it handled everything perfectly. The interface isn't as fancy as TurboTax but it does everything you need and saved me about $250 compared to what I was paying my accountant. Plus I found a deduction he had been missing for years!
Do they have good support if you get stuck on something? I'm worried about messing something up and getting audited.
Their support is decent but not as comprehensive as TurboTax's. They have email support that usually responds within a day and a good knowledge base with articles explaining most common tax situations. The audit risk is pretty minimal if you're just reporting things accurately. The software does have accuracy checks built in that will flag anything that looks unusual or might trigger an audit. I was nervous my first year too, but it really walks you through everything step by step. If your tax situation is fairly straightforward (W-2 income, mortgage, charitable donations), you should be fine. The peace of mind might be worth paying a bit more for TurboTax if you're really worried, but I found FreeTaxUSA perfectly adequate.
Anybody know if it's too late to switch accountants instead of going DIY? Mine is terrible this year and I'm thinking of just finding someone new before April.
You can definitely still find an accountant this time of year, but many good ones are already at full capacity. I'd start calling around asap. My sister just switched in February and found someone, but she had to call 8 different places before finding one accepting new clients.
This happened to me last year - turns out the company was trying to avoid paying their portion of employment taxes by treating their real employees as contractors, but then messed up and sent W-2s instead of 1099s! Make sure you have written contracts that clearly state you're an independent contractor. Also double check that you meet the IRS criteria for contractor status: - You control when and how you work - You use your own equipment - You work for multiple clients - You're not supervised day-to-day - You can make profit or loss If a company is controlling too many aspects of your work, they might correctly classify you as an employee even if you have your own business.
What if your contract says you're a contractor but the company treats you more like an employee (making you work specific hours, etc)? Does the contract override how they actually treat you?
The contract doesn't override reality. The IRS looks at the actual working relationship, not just what the paperwork says. This is called the "economic reality test." If a company is controlling when, where, and how you work, requiring you to work certain hours, closely supervising you, providing equipment, and treating you like an employee in practice, the IRS will consider you an employee regardless of what your contract says. Many companies try to save money by misclassifying employees as contractors, but the actual working relationship is what matters.
Has anyone tried filing Form SS-8 to get the IRS to make a determination on worker status? I'm in the same situation and thinking about just going straight to the IRS rather than arguing with these companies anymore.
I filed SS-8 last year. Takes FOREVER (like 6-8 months) to get a determination, but when I finally did, the company had to reclassify me and pay all the back employment taxes. They weren't happy lol but it solved the problem permanently.
Have you considered a Donor Advised Fund? It allows you to bunch several years of charitable contributions into a single tax year to potentially get over the standard deduction threshold. You get the tax deduction upfront but can distribute the actual charitable gifts over many years. Also, if you own your home, a HELOC used for home improvements might provide some deductible interest. And don't forget about medical expense deductions if you can exceed the 7.5% of AGI threshold.
The Donor Advised Fund sounds interesting! If I bunch several years of donations together, would that help me stay under the IRMAA threshold for multiple years, or just give me one good year and then potentially push me over in subsequent years? Also, do you know if medical premiums count toward that 7.5% threshold? I have some pretty hefty supplemental insurance costs.
Bunching donations can give you one year with a lower MAGI, which helps with IRMAA for just that determining year. You're right that you'd need to plan for the subsequent years too - that's where QCDs become helpful since they can reduce your taxable income each year without needing to itemize. Yes, your premiums for Medicare Part B, Part D, Medicare Advantage, and supplemental policies all count toward the 7.5% medical expense threshold! Many retirees don't realize this. Track all your out-of-pocket medical costs including dental, vision, hearing aids, and long-term care insurance premiums too. With the higher healthcare costs in retirement, you might be surprised how often you can clear that 7.5% threshold.
As a retiree who just went through this last year, don't sleep on investing in a small business! My daughter started an Etsy shop and I invested as a silent partner. The business expenses during startup gave me some nice deductions through my Schedule K-1, and now I'm getting some income too. Just make sure it's a legitimate business with profit motive - the IRS gets suspicious of "hobby businesses" that only generate losses.
Melody Miles
My advice based on personal experience: if these trusts have any significant assets or complexity, don't DIY this unless you're truly comfortable with trust taxation. I tried using TurboTax Business for a family trust last year and ended up making errors that required filing amended returns. The main issues I ran into were properly reporting investment expenses (some are deductible against trust income, others aren't after the tax law changes), correctly applying the high trust tax rates, and figuring out the accounting income vs. taxable income differences. Even with the software "guiding" me, I made mistakes because I didn't fully understand the underlying concepts.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
ā¢How much did it end up costing to fix the mistakes? I'm trying to weigh the cost of hiring a pro versus doing it myself.
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Melody Miles
ā¢The direct cost to fix the mistakes wasn't huge - about $350 for a tax professional to prepare and file the amended returns. However, the real cost was the time and stress. It took almost 6 months to get everything sorted out with the IRS, including several follow-up letters and clarifications. The bigger issue was that I had to explain to family members why we received unexpected IRS notices, which was uncomfortable and made me look incompetent. Looking back, I would have gladly paid the $800-1200 that a professional would have charged originally to avoid all that hassle. Trust taxation has some unique rules that most DIY software doesn't explain well, even if it technically supports the forms.
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Eva St. Cyr
I'm in a similar situation with a smaller family trust. Does anybody know if there's a big difference between the types of trusts when it comes to tax filing complexity? Mine is a revocable living trust if that makes any difference.
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Kristian Bishop
ā¢Huge difference! A revocable living trust typically doesn't require a separate tax return at all - the income is usually just reported on the grantor's personal return (Schedule E). The trust you're describing is likely what's called a "grantor trust" for tax purposes. What OP is describing sounds like irrevocable trusts that are separate taxpaying entities requiring Form 1041 returns. Those are much more complex.
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