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Another strategy that worked for our family C-Corp was implementing a qualified retirement plan to shift some of the accumulated earnings. By setting up a substantial defined benefit plan, we were able to make large, tax-deductible contributions that decreased our retained earnings while building wealth in a tax-advantaged environment. This approach served two purposes - reducing the accumulated earnings that might trigger AET while also creating a legitimate business purpose for some of our accumulations (funding future retirement plan obligations).
Interesting approach! Approximately what percentage of your annual earnings were you able to shift this way? And did you face any challenges with the IRS regarding the size of the contributions relative to employee compensation?
We were able to shift around 15-20% of our annual earnings through the defined benefit plan. The exact amount depends on factors like age, compensation levels, and retirement age assumptions, but it made a meaningful difference in our accumulated earnings position. We haven't faced IRS challenges because we worked with an actuary to ensure our contributions were justifiable based on legitimate factors like age and compensation. The key is ensuring the plan is properly designed as a genuine retirement vehicle, not just a tax avoidance mechanism. Having multiple real employees (not just family members) participating in the plan also helps demonstrate its legitimacy.
Has anyone considered using offshore structures for this? I heard some wealth advisors talking about foreign holding companies as a way to manage passive investments.
I strongly advise against offshore structures for avoiding PHC or AET taxes. The IRS has extremely robust anti-avoidance rules for foreign corporations owned by US persons. You'll trigger Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) rules, GILTI (Global Intangible Low-Taxed Income) taxes, PFIC (Passive Foreign Investment Company) regulations, and face extensive foreign reporting requirements with massive penalties for non-compliance. The compliance costs alone would likely exceed any theoretical tax benefits, and aggressive offshore structures specifically designed for tax avoidance could trigger significant penalties or even criminal charges.
Don't forget to look into the Dependent Care Credit too! If your mom qualifies as your dependent for medical purposes AND is physically or mentally incapable of self-care, you might qualify for this credit which is separate from the medical expense deduction. You can claim up to $4,000 in expenses for one qualifying dependent. The credit is based on a percentage of your expenses (between 20-35% depending on your income), so it could be substantial. Look at Form 2441 and IRS Publication 503 for details. This might be better than the medical expense deduction if your AGI is high.
Thanks for mentioning this! I had no idea there was a separate credit. Does this replace the medical expense deduction or can I potentially use both? Also, does it matter that I'm not physically taking care of her myself (since she's in a facility)?
You cannot double-dip by claiming the same expenses for both the Dependent Care Credit and as medical expense deductions. You'll need to choose which is more beneficial based on your overall tax situation. Generally, credits are more valuable than deductions, but it depends on your specific numbers. The good news is that you don't need to physically care for her yourself to claim the Dependent Care Credit. Expenses paid to a care facility qualify as long as part of the expense is for the care of your mom. However, if the facility provides medical care, you need to separate out the cost of care from the medical expense portion if you want to use both benefits for different expenses.
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure all your payments for her care go directly to the providers! If you give money to your mom and then she pays the facility or doctors, the IRS might consider that a gift rather than you paying medical expenses. I learned this the hard way when trying to claim my father's expenses.
Is there any way to fix this if you've already been giving the money to the parent? My sister and I deposit money in our dad's account and he pays his care facility.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the 330-day rule that's pretty critical in these cases. Canada doesn't just look at your ties but also at physical presence. If you're physically present in Canada for 183 days or more in the tax year, you're deemed a resident for tax purposes regardless of your ties. Since you moved in October and came back in December for your wedding, count those days carefully. Did you stay in Canada after the wedding for any length of time? Did you make any other trips back to Canada during that period? All those days count toward your physical presence test.
That's helpful, thanks! I moved October 10th and was in the US until December 18th when we returned for the wedding. We stayed in Canada until January 2nd, so that's about 27 days total in Canada for 2024. Sounds like I should be well under the 183-day threshold. Do pre-move days count toward this calculation too? Like, I was obviously in Canada from January-October before moving.
Yes, all days physically in Canada during the calendar year count toward the 183-day threshold, including January-October before your move. So you'd have roughly 9 months plus 27 days, which would put you over the 183-day threshold for 2024. However, this doesn't automatically make you a resident for the whole year. The CRA can recognize a change in residency status during the year. For people leaving Canada, they often consider you a part-year resident up to your departure date if you've legitimately established non-residency after that point. This is why your accountants are focusing on your ties after October, because they're trying to determine if you successfully established non-residency upon your departure.
Has anyone mentioned form NR73 yet? It's the CRA's determination of residency status form that you can submit to get an official ruling. I filled it out when I moved to Hong Kong for work while my husband temporarily stayed in Canada. The form asks detailed questions about all your residential ties - primary (spouse, home, dependents) and secondary (bank accounts, driver's license, health insurance, etc). The CRA reviews it and gives you a determination that you can rely on.
I'd be careful with NR73. It can be helpful but it's also known to trigger extra scrutiny. My cross-border tax specialist advised against filing it unless absolutely necessary because it essentially puts you on CRA's radar and can lead to additional questions and reviews. Sometimes it's better to take a reasonable position based on your facts and circumstances and be prepared to defend it if questioned, rather than proactively asking for a determination.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you're paying these artists through Venmo and then taking your cut, you might actually have "pass-through" income that's treated differently than your commission income. You really should separate these in your books. Let's say Artist gets paid $1000 from Platform, sends you the full $1000 via Venmo, and you keep $200 as your commission and send the artist $800. Your actual income is only $200, not the full $1000, but Venmo might report the full $1000 on your 1099-K. You need good records to show that $800 was pass-through money that isn't actually your income!
This is really helpful - I hadn't thought about the pass-through issue. In my case, the artists are receiving payment directly from their platforms and then sending me my percentage (usually 15-20%). So if they make $1000, they'd send me $150-$200 via Venmo. Does that simplify things since I'm only receiving my commission portion?
That definitely simplifies your situation! Since you're only receiving your commission portion directly, there's no pass-through income to worry about. The full amount you receive through Venmo is indeed your business income that should be reported on your Schedule C. Just make sure you're tracking each payment received with details on which artist it came from, what platform earnings it relates to, and the commission percentage applied. This documentation will help support your reported income if you're ever questioned. It's also smart business practice to send your artists an annual statement showing the total commissions they paid you, both for their records and yours.
For your Thailand contractors, make sure you're not accidentally violating any treaty stuff! Some countries have specific tax treaties with the US that determine how payments to their citizens should be handled. This gets complicated fast - one reason why proper documentation is super important. Also worth checking if you need to report these payments on a separate form - sometimes Foreign Contractor payments have additional reporting requirements beyond just deducting them on Schedule C.
This might be overkill for small payments though. I pay VAs in the Philippines less than $5k each per year and my accountant said as long as I have good documentation of the work performed and payments made, I don't need to worry about additional foreign reporting forms. Might depend on the dollar amount?
Zane Gray
One thing to be careful about with Section 1231 gains is the "look back rule." If you had any 1231 losses in the previous 5 years, your current 1231 gains are treated as ordinary income to the extent of those prior losses. This could affect whether your full gain qualifies for OZ treatment. Also, remember that even though you can defer the tax until 2026, you'll eventually have to pay it. Make sure you'll have the liquidity to pay that tax bill when it comes due, since it's not forgiven - just deferred.
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Tasia Synder
β’Thanks for bringing up the look-back rule - I hadn't considered that! I do have a small 1231 loss from a property I sold in 2023. So if I understand correctly, a portion of my current gain would be considered ordinary income rather than capital gain? Would that portion not be eligible for OZ investment?
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Zane Gray
β’Yes, exactly. If you had a 1231 loss in 2023, a portion of your current 1231 gain would be recaptured as ordinary income to the extent of that previous loss. That recaptured portion would not be eligible for OZ investment, since OZ investments can only be made with capital gains. For example, if you had a $10,000 1231 loss in 2023 and now have a $50,000 1231 gain, $10,000 of your current gain would be treated as ordinary income and only the remaining $40,000 would be treated as capital gain eligible for OZ investment.
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Maggie Martinez
Has anyone here actually invested in an OZ fund? I'm considering it but worried about limited options and high fees. Most of the funds I've looked at have 2% management fees plus performance fees, which seems high.
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Alejandro Castro
β’I invested in an OZ fund after selling a small apartment building in 2022. The fees are definitely higher than typical investment funds, but remember you're getting tax benefits that can offset those costs. I went with a fund focused on multifamily development in emerging markets which aligned with my investment goals. Make sure you do due diligence on the fund manager's track record and understand the timeline - you need to hold for 10+ years to get the full tax benefits on appreciation. And be prepared for the tax bill in 2026 on your initial deferred gain.
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