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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're classifying your workers correctly! The IRS has been cracking down on misclassification of employees as contractors. If you're controlling when, where, and how they work, they might actually be employees who need W-2s instead of 1099-NECs. Penalties for misclassification can be huge, including back taxes, interest, and additional fines. If you're not 100% sure about your classifications, it might be worth consulting with a tax professional before you submit anything.
This actually has me worried now. We have a few people who work pretty regularly for us but we've always considered them contractors. Is there a simple test to determine if someone should get a W-2 vs a 1099-NEC?
The IRS looks at three main categories: Behavioral Control (do you control how they work?), Financial Control (do they have opportunity for profit/loss?), and Relationship Type (written contracts, benefits, permanency of relationship). A good rule of thumb is if you control WHEN and HOW someone does their work, provide their tools/equipment, and they work exclusively for you over a long period, they're more likely to be classified as an employee. If they control their own schedule, use their own methods/equipment, and work for multiple clients, they're more likely to properly be classified as a contractor.
Has anyone used TaxBandits for 1099-NECs? My accountant recommended it but wondering if it's user-friendly for someone who's never done this before.
Did you track your mileage while driving for Lyft? That's usually the biggest deduction for rideshare drivers. If you didn't claim your mileage (at 56 cents per mile in 2021), the IRS would calculate taxes on your full earnings without expenses. That alone could explain a huge tax difference.
I did track some miles but honestly not consistently. I remember putting in something like 4,000 miles but I was driving a lot more than that. Probably closer to 18,000 miles for Lyft that year. I think you're right that this might be a big part of the problem.
Make sure you're also checking if you filed Schedule SE for self-employment tax. Many tax software users miss this completely. The SE tax is 15.3% ON TOP OF regular income tax. So even if you correctly reported the Lyft income on Schedule C, if you didn't complete Schedule SE, the IRS would come after you for the missing SE tax plus penalties and interest.
Your second guess is spot on. When you start a job mid-year, payroll systems calculate withholding as if you're making that same amount for the full year. So your actual annual projected income is lower, hence lower withholding. Easiest fix? Use the IRS Withholding Calculator online to check if you're on track. If needed, you can submit a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. Just put the extra amount you want withheld per paycheck in Box 4(c). For next year, once you've both worked at your jobs for the full year, your withholdings should naturally align better. But I always recommend doing a mid-year withholding checkup anyway.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion! I used the calculator and it's showing we might be slightly underwithholding overall. Is it better to adjust both our W-4s slightly or just have one of us make a bigger adjustment? Does it matter which approach we take?
Either approach works from a tax perspective - the IRS doesn't care which spouse has the withholding as long as your household total is correct. For simplicity, I'd recommend just having one person make the adjustment - usually the higher earner or whoever has the more stable income. Remember that if your incomes are fairly high, the "married" withholding tables assume that one spouse might not work, so with two similar high incomes, you might need more withholding than the standard tables suggest. The calculator should account for this, but it's always good to recheck your withholdings around June each year to make sure you're on track.
Random tip that helped my wife and me - we both selected "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" on our W-4s since we make similar salaries. This automatically adjusts for the fact that both of us work. Then at the end of each quarter, we do a quick check using an online calculator to see if we're on track. The old W-4 used to have allowances which was confusing af. The new one is better but still not perfect. Married couples with similar incomes often need to withhold extra to avoid an unpleasant surprise at tax time.
Is this still the best approach with the redesigned W-4? I thought the new form was supposed to fix these issues with the two-earner worksheet?
I used to work for a state benefits agency (not federal, but similar systems). Just want to clarify something - these cross-checks have actually been happening for years, just not systematically or efficiently. The DOGE initiative is mainly about automating and improving what was already supposed to be happening. The biggest issue we saw wasn't people deliberately committing fraud, but honest mistakes in how income was reported or categorized. Like someone would forget to include certain types of income on their benefits application but would report it correctly on taxes, or vice versa. My advice: keep good records of EVERYTHING. If you get flagged for review, don't panic - just be ready to explain any discrepancies with documentation.
Should people proactively contact their benefits offices about potential discrepancies, or just wait to see if they get flagged?
Generally, it's better to wait until you're contacted unless you realize you've made a significant error that would affect your eligibility. The verification systems are designed to filter out minor discrepancies, and proactively contacting benefits offices often just creates confusion when there might not be an issue. If you do discover you've made a major reporting error that would affect your eligibility, then yes, you should contact the appropriate office to correct it. But for small differences in how income is categorized or reported, the cross-referencing systems typically have thresholds for what triggers a review.
Does anyone know which federal benefits are being included in this DOGE initiative? Is it just income-based programs like SNAP and TANF, or does it include Social Security retirement and disability too?
Nia Thompson
One thing no one has mentioned yet - don't forget to apply these credits separately for EACH spouse if you're both self-employed! My wife and I both qualified but I initially only claimed them for myself. Each of you can claim up to 10 days of sick leave credit AND up to 50 days of family leave credit if you both had to reduce your work to care for your kids. Also, the amounts are calculated based on your net earnings from self-employment, so they could be different amounts for each spouse. The daily limits in 2022 were $511 per day for sick leave for your own illness and $200 per day for caring for someone else or for the family leave credit. Make sure your software is calculating both spouses' credits correctly!
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AstroAce
β’Thanks for pointing this out! Yes, we are both claiming the credits separately based on our individual self-employment incomes. My wife's income is higher than mine, so her credits are calculating higher too. Do you know if we need any specific documentation to prove we were caring for our kids during those days? I'm worried about potential audit flags since this is making such a big difference in our taxes.
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Nia Thompson
β’You should definitely keep documentation showing that your children's schools or care facilities were closed during the periods you're claiming. Things like emails from the school about closures, announcements from the daycare, or any formal communications about COVID-related shutdowns. Also maintain a calendar or log showing which days you had to reduce work hours to provide care. Note the days you would normally have worked but couldn't due to childcare responsibilities. And keep records of your normal work schedule pre-COVID to establish your baseline. If possible, document how your business income was affected - comparing earnings or billings from similar periods before the pandemic might help demonstrate the impact. The more documentation you have connecting the care needs to your reduced work hours, the better position you'll be in if questioned.
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Mateo Rodriguez
Has anyone else noticed that different tax software calculates these credits differently? I tried three different programs and got wildly different results. One gave me hardly any credit, another gave me a massive amount, and the third was somewhere in between. I ended up going with a professional tax preparer who specializes in self-employment taxes, and she explained that many tax software programs struggle with these specialized COVID credits because they were temporary and had complex rules.
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Aisha Abdullah
β’I had the same experience! TurboTax gave me a much smaller credit than FreeTaxUSA. My accountant explained that some software was more aggressive in their interpretations of the rules while others were more conservative. He recommended documenting everything carefully in case of an audit, regardless of which calculation you go with.
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