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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you should check if your state has income tax at all before worrying about this. I spent hours researching how my state return would work with Direct File only to remember that I live in Florida and we don't even have state income tax π€¦ββοΈ
Lol I did the same thing when I first moved to Texas! But there are still 9 states with no income tax right? Florida, Texas, Washington, Alaska, Nevada, South Dakota, Wyoming, New Hampshire (only on dividends and interest), and Tennessee if I remember correctly.
You're right, there are 9 states with no income tax. Florida, Texas, Washington, Alaska, Nevada, South Dakota, Wyoming are fully income-tax free. Then New Hampshire only taxes investment income but not wages, and Tennessee phased out their tax on investment income so it's now completely income-tax free too. It's amazing how many people in these states still worry about state returns! The Direct File confusion is only relevant if you actually have to file a state return in the first place.
Has anyone used direct file with income from multiple states? I have my main retirement and SSA-1099 in Florida (no state income tax), but I also have a small rental property in Georgia that generates some income. Will direct file handle this correctly?
I had a similar situation last year with property in two states. Direct File isn't great for multi-state situations in my experience. It'll handle your federal return fine with the SSA-1099 and rental income, but for the Georgia state return, it gets complicated. When it transfers data to Georgia's system, it might not properly allocate which income is subject to Georgia tax vs what's exempt. I ended up using a paid preparer for this specific situation.
Don't overthink this! File a 1040-X to amend your 2020 return. Report the distribution on the appropriate lines. If you're going to repay it, you'll need to hurry before the 3-year window closes. Even partial repayment is better than nothing. You'll still owe taxes on whatever portion you can't repay. The CARES Act did offer the option to spread the taxable amount over 3 years (2020-2022), but you'd need to have elected that on your original return. Since you didn't report it at all, you might not be eligible for this option anymore.
Yes, you're absolutely right. They'll need to file Form 8915-E along with the 1040-X. This form is specifically for reporting coronavirus-related distributions and repayments. On Form 8915-E, they'll report the full distribution amount and any repayments they've made or plan to make. If they're eligible and want to spread the income over three years, they'd indicate that on this form as well, though as I mentioned, that might be complicated since the original distribution wasn't reported.
Has anyone used a tax advocate service for something like this? I'm also dealing with a CARES Act issue and wondering if that might help me navigate it.
Tax advocates typically only help if you're experiencing significant hardship or if regular IRS channels have failed. For CARES Act questions, your best bet is to either connect directly with the IRS or use a tax professional who specializes in retirement distributions. Most CARES Act issues are pretty straightforward once you talk to someone who understands the rules.
Just a heads up for anyone with worthless stocks - make sure you report the correct dates! The IRS considers a stock to be worthless in the year it actually became worthless, not necessarily when you sell it for pennies. For the failed banks last year, the date of FDIC takeover is generally considered the worthless date. Also, keep good records about your cost basis (what you originally paid) because that determines your loss amount. If you bought shares at different times at different prices, you'll need to calculate the average cost or identify specific lots.
What if I already filed my taxes but didn't include these losses? Can I file an amended return to claim them or would that increase my audit risk?
You can absolutely file an amended return to claim losses you forgot to include. Use Form 1040-X for the amendment along with a corrected Schedule D showing the capital losses. The general time limit for filing amendments to claim a refund is within 3 years from the date you filed your original return or within 2 years from when you paid the tax, whichever is later. As for audit risk, claiming legitimate losses you're entitled to shouldn't significantly increase your risk if you have the documentation to support them. Just make sure you keep records showing your basis in the shares and evidence of when they became worthless.
Anyone using TurboTax to report these bank stock losses? I'm trying to figure out where exactly to enter this and if it'll automatically handle the carryforward amounts.
In TurboTax, you need to go to the Investments & Rental Properties section, then select Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other. It will ask for the sale information and your cost basis. Make sure to enter your actual sales (even if pennies) rather than just marking it as worthless. It does track carryforward losses automatically for future years.
I'm going against the grain here, but I've never reported tiny amounts like this and never had an issue. The IRS has bigger fish to fry than coming after you for $2 in taxes. Just my two cents.
Isn't that technically tax fraud though? Even if it's a small amount? Not judging, just curious about the potential consequences.
Technically yes, but realistically the IRS operates on a threshold system even if they don't publicly admit it. The cost of pursuing someone for a few dollars in tax would far exceed what they'd collect. I'm not advocating tax evasion for significant amounts, but there's a practical reality to how tax enforcement works. The IRS themselves have had their resources cut for years and focus on larger discrepancies. That said, everyone should make their own decision based on their comfort level with risk - even if that risk is extremely minimal for amounts this small.
Has anyone used the Cash App Taxes option? I heard it's completely free and handles investment forms, but I'm wondering if it's user friendly.
I used Cash App Taxes last year for my returns including some stock sales. It was completely free and handled Schedule D without issues. The interface isn't as polished as TurboTax, but for free you can't complain! It asks straightforward questions and walks you through everything. Definitely recommend for simple-to-moderate tax situations with some investment income.
Aisha Mahmood
I've been running an LLC with my brother (electrical contractors) for about 7 years. Definitely go LLC over LLP for construction. Two big reasons: 1) Better liability protection in most states and 2) More flexibility as your business grows. We started as partnership taxation but switched to S-Corp after hitting about $175k in profit to save on self-employment taxes.
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Diego Flores
β’How complicated was it to switch from partnership to S-Corp taxation? Did you have to create a new entity or just file some paperwork? Also, ballpark, how much did you save in taxes by making the switch?
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Aisha Mahmood
β’The switch wasn't that complicated - just filed Form 8832 to be taxed as a corporation and then Form 2553 for the S-Corp election. Didn't need to create a new entity at all. The LLC remained the same, just the tax treatment changed. As for savings, it varies based on profit levels, but we probably saved around $15,000-$20,000 in self-employment taxes the first year after switching. The key is paying ourselves reasonable salaries (which are subject to FICA taxes) and taking the rest as distributions (which aren't). Just make sure you have a good accountant to help determine what's "reasonable" for your industry and area.
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Ethan Clark
One thing nobody's mentioned - check your state laws! I'm in California and the LLC fees are ridiculous compared to other states. We pay an $800 minimum annual tax PLUS a gross receipts fee that scales up to like $12k for higher revenue businesses. Might impact your decision if you're in a state with high LLC fees.
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AstroAce
β’Nevada is way better for LLCs if you can establish a presence there. No state income tax and way lower fees. That's what my cousin did with his construction business after getting killed with California fees for years.
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