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Can I claim both Self-employed Sick Leave Credit & Self-employed Family Leave Credit for 2023 tax filing? Tax software calculation accuracy?

My wife and I are both running our own businesses. We've got a teenager in high school and a 3-year-old. Back in 2022, our plan was to enroll our toddler in a preschool program that spring (right when all the latest COVID wave hit). Of course, all the preschools shut down and we decided to keep our little one at home due to health concerns. This, plus having our teenager doing school from home, meant we each only worked about half the week instead of full-time. I've been doing our taxes and noticed the software mentions you can claim the self-employed sick leave credit if you had to take time off from your business to care for a child because their school or care provider wasn't available. The family leave credit has pretty much the identical definition from what I can tell. Between May 1, 2022 and December 31, 2022 (the eligible period), I figured we each missed roughly 120 days of work. In a normal year, we would have each worked about 235 days on our full schedules, but we were both working half-time. I entered 120 days each for the sick leave credit, and then put in 50 days (which seems to be the maximum allowed) for the family leave credit. The crazy thing is these credits changed our tax situation completely - we went from owing around $14,750 to actually getting back about $2,350! This seems too good to be true. Am I calculating this correctly? Is it legitimate to claim both these credits since they seem to be covering the exact same situation? The definitions look practically identical to me.

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One thing no one has mentioned yet - don't forget to apply these credits separately for EACH spouse if you're both self-employed! My wife and I both qualified but I initially only claimed them for myself. Each of you can claim up to 10 days of sick leave credit AND up to 50 days of family leave credit if you both had to reduce your work to care for your kids. Also, the amounts are calculated based on your net earnings from self-employment, so they could be different amounts for each spouse. The daily limits in 2022 were $511 per day for sick leave for your own illness and $200 per day for caring for someone else or for the family leave credit. Make sure your software is calculating both spouses' credits correctly!

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AstroAce

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Thanks for pointing this out! Yes, we are both claiming the credits separately based on our individual self-employment incomes. My wife's income is higher than mine, so her credits are calculating higher too. Do you know if we need any specific documentation to prove we were caring for our kids during those days? I'm worried about potential audit flags since this is making such a big difference in our taxes.

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Nia Thompson

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You should definitely keep documentation showing that your children's schools or care facilities were closed during the periods you're claiming. Things like emails from the school about closures, announcements from the daycare, or any formal communications about COVID-related shutdowns. Also maintain a calendar or log showing which days you had to reduce work hours to provide care. Note the days you would normally have worked but couldn't due to childcare responsibilities. And keep records of your normal work schedule pre-COVID to establish your baseline. If possible, document how your business income was affected - comparing earnings or billings from similar periods before the pandemic might help demonstrate the impact. The more documentation you have connecting the care needs to your reduced work hours, the better position you'll be in if questioned.

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Has anyone else noticed that different tax software calculates these credits differently? I tried three different programs and got wildly different results. One gave me hardly any credit, another gave me a massive amount, and the third was somewhere in between. I ended up going with a professional tax preparer who specializes in self-employment taxes, and she explained that many tax software programs struggle with these specialized COVID credits because they were temporary and had complex rules.

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I had the same experience! TurboTax gave me a much smaller credit than FreeTaxUSA. My accountant explained that some software was more aggressive in their interpretations of the rules while others were more conservative. He recommended documenting everything carefully in case of an audit, regardless of which calculation you go with.

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Ravi Patel

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're classifying your workers correctly! The IRS has been cracking down on misclassification of employees as contractors. If you're controlling when, where, and how they work, they might actually be employees who need W-2s instead of 1099-NECs. Penalties for misclassification can be huge, including back taxes, interest, and additional fines. If you're not 100% sure about your classifications, it might be worth consulting with a tax professional before you submit anything.

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Amina Diallo

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This actually has me worried now. We have a few people who work pretty regularly for us but we've always considered them contractors. Is there a simple test to determine if someone should get a W-2 vs a 1099-NEC?

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Ravi Patel

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The IRS looks at three main categories: Behavioral Control (do you control how they work?), Financial Control (do they have opportunity for profit/loss?), and Relationship Type (written contracts, benefits, permanency of relationship). A good rule of thumb is if you control WHEN and HOW someone does their work, provide their tools/equipment, and they work exclusively for you over a long period, they're more likely to be classified as an employee. If they control their own schedule, use their own methods/equipment, and work for multiple clients, they're more likely to properly be classified as a contractor.

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Has anyone used TaxBandits for 1099-NECs? My accountant recommended it but wondering if it's user-friendly for someone who's never done this before.

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PixelPrincess

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I used TaxBandits last year and it was pretty straightforward. The interface is a bit dated but they have good customer service. One tip - they charge per form, so double check your forms before submitting since corrections cost extra.

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Did you track your mileage while driving for Lyft? That's usually the biggest deduction for rideshare drivers. If you didn't claim your mileage (at 56 cents per mile in 2021), the IRS would calculate taxes on your full earnings without expenses. That alone could explain a huge tax difference.

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Kara Yoshida

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I did track some miles but honestly not consistently. I remember putting in something like 4,000 miles but I was driving a lot more than that. Probably closer to 18,000 miles for Lyft that year. I think you're right that this might be a big part of the problem.

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That would definitely explain a large portion of the deficiency! At 56 cents per mile in 2021, the difference between claiming 4,000 miles versus 18,000 miles is about $7,840 in additional deductions. Depending on your tax bracket, that alone could account for $1,700-$2,700 in tax differences.

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Reina Salazar

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Make sure you're also checking if you filed Schedule SE for self-employment tax. Many tax software users miss this completely. The SE tax is 15.3% ON TOP OF regular income tax. So even if you correctly reported the Lyft income on Schedule C, if you didn't complete Schedule SE, the IRS would come after you for the missing SE tax plus penalties and interest.

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This happened to me! I reported all my Uber income but completely missed the Schedule SE part. Ended up with a $7k notice a year later. I recommend getting a tax transcript from the IRS website to see exactly what they have on file versus what you submitted.

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Jamal Harris

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Your second guess is spot on. When you start a job mid-year, payroll systems calculate withholding as if you're making that same amount for the full year. So your actual annual projected income is lower, hence lower withholding. Easiest fix? Use the IRS Withholding Calculator online to check if you're on track. If needed, you can submit a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. Just put the extra amount you want withheld per paycheck in Box 4(c). For next year, once you've both worked at your jobs for the full year, your withholdings should naturally align better. But I always recommend doing a mid-year withholding checkup anyway.

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Nia Wilson

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Thanks for confirming my suspicion! I used the calculator and it's showing we might be slightly underwithholding overall. Is it better to adjust both our W-4s slightly or just have one of us make a bigger adjustment? Does it matter which approach we take?

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Jamal Harris

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Either approach works from a tax perspective - the IRS doesn't care which spouse has the withholding as long as your household total is correct. For simplicity, I'd recommend just having one person make the adjustment - usually the higher earner or whoever has the more stable income. Remember that if your incomes are fairly high, the "married" withholding tables assume that one spouse might not work, so with two similar high incomes, you might need more withholding than the standard tables suggest. The calculator should account for this, but it's always good to recheck your withholdings around June each year to make sure you're on track.

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GalaxyGlider

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Random tip that helped my wife and me - we both selected "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" on our W-4s since we make similar salaries. This automatically adjusts for the fact that both of us work. Then at the end of each quarter, we do a quick check using an online calculator to see if we're on track. The old W-4 used to have allowances which was confusing af. The new one is better but still not perfect. Married couples with similar incomes often need to withhold extra to avoid an unpleasant surprise at tax time.

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Mei Wong

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Is this still the best approach with the redesigned W-4? I thought the new form was supposed to fix these issues with the two-earner worksheet?

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Dylan Hughes

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I used to work for a state benefits agency (not federal, but similar systems). Just want to clarify something - these cross-checks have actually been happening for years, just not systematically or efficiently. The DOGE initiative is mainly about automating and improving what was already supposed to be happening. The biggest issue we saw wasn't people deliberately committing fraud, but honest mistakes in how income was reported or categorized. Like someone would forget to include certain types of income on their benefits application but would report it correctly on taxes, or vice versa. My advice: keep good records of EVERYTHING. If you get flagged for review, don't panic - just be ready to explain any discrepancies with documentation.

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NightOwl42

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Should people proactively contact their benefits offices about potential discrepancies, or just wait to see if they get flagged?

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Dylan Hughes

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Generally, it's better to wait until you're contacted unless you realize you've made a significant error that would affect your eligibility. The verification systems are designed to filter out minor discrepancies, and proactively contacting benefits offices often just creates confusion when there might not be an issue. If you do discover you've made a major reporting error that would affect your eligibility, then yes, you should contact the appropriate office to correct it. But for small differences in how income is categorized or reported, the cross-referencing systems typically have thresholds for what triggers a review.

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Does anyone know which federal benefits are being included in this DOGE initiative? Is it just income-based programs like SNAP and TANF, or does it include Social Security retirement and disability too?

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Dmitry Ivanov

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From what I've read, it includes pretty much all federal benefit programs - Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, Housing assistance, veterans benefits, etc. But the focus is primarily on programs where eligibility is tied to income levels.

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