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Has anyone actually compared how different tax software handles this Schedule D Box C issue? I'm wondering if some programs handle it better than others. I've been using FreeTaxUSA for years but I'm getting more into investing and crypto, so I'm thinking about switching to something that handles these edge cases better. Any recommendations?
I've used both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA in the past couple years. TurboTax actually does have a dedicated section for Box C transactions, but it's buried deep in their investing section and not intuitive to find. FreeTaxUSA is more straightforward overall and way cheaper, but like OP mentioned, it has this quirk with Box C. TaxAct was the worst of the ones I tried - it kept giving me errors with certain crypto transactions. H&R Block's software seemed decent for complex investment situations but costs more than FreeTaxUSA.
I've been looking into this more since posting. Apparently TaxHawk (which is basically the same engine as FreeTaxUSA) has the same limitation. TurboTax does technically support Box C transactions but I heard it's not easy to find. I'm sticking with FreeTaxUSA this year since I already entered everything, but might try TurboTax next year if I have more complex investments. The price difference is significant though - like $100+ more for TurboTax with investment support vs FreeTaxUSA.
Quick tip for anyone using FreeTaxUSA with Schedule D issues - if you enter everything and then preview your actual 8949 form (not just the input screens), you'll see that they do actually organize it correctly on the final form in most cases! So even though you might enter Box C transactions in the Box B input section, when you generate the actual PDF of your return, it often shows up correctly categorized on the official 8949 form. I was pleasantly surprised when I checked this on my return after worrying about the same issue.
That's super helpful! I didn't even think to check the final form. I just did that and you're right - even though I entered my Box C transaction in the Box B input section, on the actual 8949 PDF it shows up correctly under Box C. FreeTaxUSA must have some logic built in that recognizes certain types of transactions and moves them to the right category for the final form. That makes me feel a lot better about continuing to use them. Thanks for the tip!
Don't forget to also contact your state tax authority! I made the mistake of only dealing with the IRS when my ex committed tax fraud, and then got hit with state tax penalties a few months later. Most states have their own innocent spouse provisions, but you usually need to file separately with them. Also, gather as much evidence as you can that you were kept in the dark about finances. This includes: - Any emails/texts where your ex refused to discuss money - Statements showing you didn't have access to accounts - Testimony from friends/family who witnessed the financial control - Documentation from your therapist about financial abuse (with your permission) The more evidence you have that you couldn't have known about the tax issues, the stronger your case will be.
That's a really good point about state taxes that I hadn't considered. I'm in Texas which doesn't have state income tax, but we did live in California for two years during our marriage. Should I be concerned about that?
Yes, absolutely contact California's tax authority (Franchise Tax Board) immediately! California is extremely aggressive about collecting back taxes, and they have a lookback period of up to 20 years for tax fraud. If your ex didn't pay proper taxes while you lived there, California could come after you separately from the IRS. California does have an innocent spouse program, but you need to be proactive about it. Don't wait for them to find you. The good news is that if you get innocent spouse relief from the IRS, California generally follows the federal determination, but you still need to file the proper paperwork with them.
As someone who went through this exact situation, make sure you're documenting EVERYTHING right now. Every letter from the IRS, every conversation (get badge numbers of agents you speak with), every communication with your ex or their attorney. Also, consider filing taxes separately from now on using Married Filing Separately status until the divorce is final. This won't help with past issues but prevents new ones. And when you file your 2024 taxes next year, make sure you work with a tax professional who specializes in innocent spouse situations.
Adding to this excellent advice - be prepared for a long process. My innocent spouse case took 14 months to resolve completely. The IRS isn't known for speed. Make sure you respond to every letter they send within the timeframe they specify, and always send things certified mail so you have proof of delivery.
Having worked at a tax prep firm (not H&R), I can tell you this happens more often than it should. Most regular tax preparers don't deal with non-resident returns often enough to be comfortable with them. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Contact the specific H&R Block office manager (not just your preparer) 2. Bring printed proof of your communications about being a non-resident 3. Request they file a 1040X and 1040NR immediately at no cost 4. Ask for partial refund of preparation fees If they give you any pushback, mention that you're considering filing Form 14157 (Tax Return Preparer Complaint) with the IRS. That usually gets their attention quickly.
Thanks for this insider perspective! Do you think I should be worried about penalties from the IRS? I'm stressed about potentially having to pay back some of the refund plus interest or penalties. Will filing an amended return soon enough prevent that?
If you amend your return promptly, penalties are usually minimal or can be waived entirely under a first-time abatement. The IRS generally recognizes good-faith efforts to correct errors, especially when the error wasn't your fault. As for the refund amount, you might have to repay some of it if you received tax benefits that non-residents aren't eligible for. But you might also qualify for certain treaty benefits as a non-resident that could offset this. Make sure H&R Block thoroughly researches any tax treaties between the US and your home country when preparing the amended return.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - check if your school/hospital has free tax help for international medical residents. Many teaching hospitals partner with accounting firms that specialize in non-resident tax issues. I'm a nursing student, but my roommate is an international medical resident and she got free specialized tax help through her program. Might be worth asking your program director or the international student office.
I worked for the IRS for 11 years. Here's what you need to know: First, verify this is actually from the IRS - the term "Federal Tax Authority" is suspicious. Real IRS notices have specific notice numbers. The IRS CAN seize a primary residence but it's extremely rare and the last resort after many other attempts to collect. If your wife is truly unable to pay due to disability, she likely qualifies for Currently Not Collectible status or possibly an Offer in Compromise (settling for less than owed). Your status as an LPR doesn't affect this situation since the debt and property are in your wife's name. Focus on contacting the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service (877-777-4778) - they can help navigate hardship situations and often get collection actions paused while you work out a solution.
Thank you for this detailed response. We've checked the letter more carefully and it does have a CP504 notice number on it, so I think it's legitimate. What's the difference between Currently Not Collectible status and an Offer in Compromise? Would either of these permanently resolve the debt or just delay collection?
Currently Not Collectible (CNC) status temporarily pauses collection actions when paying the tax debt would create an economic hardship. The debt doesn't go away, but the IRS stops trying to collect while you're in financial hardship. The IRS reviews your status periodically (usually annually) to see if your financial situation has improved. An Offer in Compromise (OIC) is a settlement agreement where the IRS accepts less than the full amount owed to resolve the debt permanently. You have to demonstrate that you cannot pay the full amount due to financial hardship, and they consider your income, expenses, asset equity, and ability to pay. If accepted, you fulfill the terms of the offer (usually a reduced lump sum or payment plan), and the debt is considered paid in full.
Has anyone looked at whether your wife might qualify for Innocent Spouse Relief? If the tax debt was from a joint return and she was unaware of the issues that caused the underpayment, that could be an option. Just throwing it out there since I went through something similar with my ex's tax problems.
Innocent Spouse Relief only applies if the debt is from a joint tax return where one spouse didn't know about income that wasn't reported or incorrect deductions. From OP's post, it sounds like this is solely the wife's tax debt, not joint debt, so probably wouldn't apply here.
Issac Nightingale
Something important that nobody has mentioned - technically, at 19, your son might not even qualify as a dependent unless he's a full-time student. The rules change after they turn 19. If he's in college full-time, you can claim him until he's 24, but if he's not a full-time student, he might not qualify as your dependent regardless of who he lives with. Make sure you check the age requirements for dependency claims before you get into a battle with your ex. Also, does your son work? If he provides more than half of his own support, neither of you can claim him.
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Maggie Martinez
ā¢That's a really good point I hadn't considered! He is a full-time college student, so I think I'm still eligible to claim him. He works part-time at the campus bookstore, but I'm definitely providing well over half his support (tuition, housing, food, car insurance, phone, etc.). Do you know if there's any form or documentation I should get from his college to prove he's enrolled full-time? I want to make sure I have everything in order before this becomes an issue with the IRS.
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Issac Nightingale
ā¢You'll want to get a transcript or enrollment verification from his college showing his full-time status for the tax year. Most schools can provide this through their registrar's office or student portal. This is important documentation to have on hand. For the support test, keep records of all those expenses you mentioned. Create a spreadsheet showing what you pay versus what he earns from his job to clearly demonstrate you provide more than half his support. Also, make sure you understand the difference between the Qualifying Child and Qualifying Relative tests for dependents - at 19, he's only a Qualifying Child if he's a full-time student, otherwise you'd need to see if he meets the tests for a Qualifying Relative.
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Romeo Barrett
Has anyone mentioned that your son should be filing his own taxes? At 19, he's an adult, and if he's working (even part-time), he likely needs to file. Maybe just ask him for his SSN directly? Seems weird to go through your ex when he's an adult now. Also, the person who mentioned the full-time student requirement is 100% correct. That's super important in your case since he's over 18.
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Marina Hendrix
ā¢This is what I was thinking too. At 19, why isn't the son just providing his own SSN to his parent? Something seems off about this whole situation. Maybe there's more to the story?
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