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Something everyone should know - the IRS has a First Time Penalty Abatement policy that might help in your situation! If you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years before your unfiled return, you can often get the failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties waived for one tax year. This wouldn't apply to the interest that's accrued, but it could significantly reduce what you owe. You'd need to file all your back taxes first, then request the abatement either by calling the IRS or submitting a letter.
That's amazing! I didn't know about this policy. Do you know if it would apply to my situation since I missed 2021 and 2022? Could I get the penalties waived for just 2021 or would it not work since I missed multiple years?
The First Time Penalty Abatement typically only applies to the first tax year in which you had an issue, so in your case, it would likely only apply to 2021. It wouldn't cover 2022 because by then, you no longer had a "clean compliance history" due to the 2021 issue. The good news is that getting the penalties waived for even one year can make a significant difference. For your 2021 tax year, this could potentially save you hundreds or even over a thousand dollars depending on your original tax amount. After you file all your returns, you can call the IRS and specifically request a "First Time Abatement" for the 2021 tax year. Just make sure you've filed all your back taxes before making the request.
I'm going through almost the same thing - can anyone recommend good tax software for filing previous years? I need to file 2020 and 2021 returns.
I used FreeTaxUSA for my previous year returns and it worked great. They charge like $15 for prior year federal returns and their interface is easy to use. You just need to make sure you're in the right tax year when you start - they have separate sections for each year.
I've been trading through an LLC for the past 3 years. Here's my experience: 1. Just having an LLC doesn't magically make expenses deductible - I had to demonstrate I was truly operating as a business 2. I make 15-20 trades per week consistently throughout the year 3. I maintain a separate home office exclusively for trading 4. I keep regular "business hours" for my trading activities 5. I document EVERYTHING - time spent researching, analysis methods, trading strategies My accountant says the key is treating it like a legitimate business in every way. I got audited in 2023 and successfully defended my deductions because I had meticulous records showing this wasn't just casual investing.
What about the LLC protection itself? Does it actually do anything for you besides potential tax benefits? Like protecting personal assets if a trade somehow went catastrophically wrong?
The LLC provides some asset protection, but it's limited for trading activities. It mainly protects against business creditors, but since brokerages require personal guarantees, the protection for trading losses is minimal. The main benefit was being able to establish a separate business entity for tax purposes. For catastrophic trading scenarios, the LLC wouldn't protect me from losses on trades I authorized. Where it does help is separating my trading assets from personal assets for general liability purposes. I still maintain separate accounts, separate records, and never commingle personal and business funds, which strengthens both the liability protection and the tax treatment as a business.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - you need to consider making a Section 475(f) mark-to-market election if you're serious about this. This election treats your securities as ordinary income/loss rather than capital gains/losses and is often considered evidence that you're operating as a business trader. The deadline is April 15 of the tax year (or March 15 for existing LLCs taxed as corporations). Missing this deadline can complicate your case for trader status.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you asked about a receipt when filing your extension. Make sure you save or print the confirmation page after filing Form 4868. For electronic filing, you'll get a confirmation number - write this down somewhere safe! If you make a payment with your extension (which you should), the canceled check or credit card statement serves as additional proof. The IRS also sends an email confirmation if you file electronically through their system. I actually take screenshots of the entire process just to be extra safe. Had an issue once where my extension wasn't properly recorded, and having all that documentation saved me from some nasty penalties.
Thank you for mentioning this! I was wondering about the documentation part. Do you recommend keeping these records for the standard 3 years like regular tax returns?
I actually recommend keeping extension documentation for at least 6 years, even though the standard recommendation for most tax records is 3 years. The reason is that extension issues can sometimes take longer to surface. Plus, these documents don't take up much space digitally. I create a tax folder for each year with subfolders for "Extension" and "Final Return" and keep all confirmation numbers, screenshots, and payment records organized there. It's saved me more than once when questions came up years later.
Has anyone tried using FreeTaxUSA instead of TurboTax for filing with K-1s? TurboTax gets SO expensive once you need the "premium" or whatever version for investment income, and I'm wondering if there are cheaper alternatives that still handle extensions properly.
I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA two years ago and haven't looked back. They handle K-1s just fine in my experience (I get one from an S-Corp). Their interface for recording extension payments is actually more straightforward than TurboTax too - it's right in the "Payments" section and clearly labeled. Federal filing is free and state is only around $15. For extensions, they guide you through the same Form 4868 process.
Another option is to check with the real estate agent who helped you buy the property. When I was figuring out depreciation for my rental, my realtor had access to detailed MLS data that showed typical land-to-building ratios in my neighborhood. She pulled some comparable sales and gave me documentation showing that properties in my area typically had land values at 22% of the total purchase price. I've been using that percentage for 3 years now without any issues.
Can a real estate agent really provide documentation that would satisfy the IRS though? I'm worried about getting audited and having to justify my numbers.
What you want is documentation showing how you arrived at a reasonable allocation, not necessarily an official appraisal. The IRS recognizes that determining exact land values isn't an exact science. A realtor can provide comparative market analyses (CMAs) of similar properties showing their land-to-building ratios, which demonstrates you used a reasonable method based on actual market data. If you're particularly concerned about audit risk, you could have the realtor write a brief letter explaining the methodology used to determine the typical ratio in your area, and keep this with your tax records. The key is being able to show you made a good faith effort to determine an accurate and reasonable allocation, rather than just making up numbers.
Quick tip - don't forget to reset your depreciation basis when converting from primary residence to rental! You need to use the LOWER of your adjusted basis (purchase price plus improvements minus any depreciation already taken) OR the fair market value at the time of conversion. I made this mistake and had to amend returns.
Is this still true with the 2025 tax year changes? I thought there was something about this rule being modified.
Dominic Green
Another option worth considering is to contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service. They're designed to help when you've tried normal IRS channels without success. Since you've been waiting for quite a while and keep getting interest notifications without the actual payment, you might qualify for their assistance. You can find your local office here: https://www.taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/ I used them last year when I had issues with my stimulus payment after moving back from Canada, and they were able to help resolve it within about 2 months.
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Natalie Adams
ā¢Thanks for suggesting the Taxpayer Advocate Service! Have you heard if they're also dealing with major backlogs like the regular IRS departments? I'm wondering if it's worth contacting them now or waiting until I'm physically back in the US next month.
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Dominic Green
ā¢They definitely have backlogs too, but in my experience, they're still faster than waiting for the regular IRS channels to resolve issues. If you contact them now, they might be able to start your case so that by the time you're back in the US, they'll be ready to work with you more directly. One important tip: when you contact them, be very specific about the financial hardship the delay is causing. They prioritize cases partly based on the level of hardship, so if this money is important for your relocation or getting established back in the US, definitely mention that.
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Hannah Flores
Have you checked if you can see your refund status through the "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website? Sometimes that shows if a check was issued and returned. Also, when you filed the streamlined returns, did you include direct deposit information?
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Kayla Jacobson
ā¢'Where s My" Refund has limited historical data - it usually only shows information for the current tax year and sometimes the previous one. For older refunds, especially from streamlined filings, it probably'won t show anything helpfulnow.
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