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Former tax pro here. That quote is high but not outrageous given your situation and the Bay Area location. Here's what you can do: 1) Ask for an itemized breakdown of their services and associated costs. See if you can remove the review of past returns and consultations if you don't feel you need them. 2) Get at least 2 more quotes from other CPAs. Tax prep costs vary widely even within the same region. 3) Consider a tax pro who specializes in tech workers with RSUs - they'll be more efficient with your situation. For what it's worth, multi-state filing with RSUs at your income level is definitely complex and likely warrants professional help, but you should be able to find someone in the $2-3k range for just preparation of your current return.
Thanks for the insider perspective! If I do decide to just prep this year's return, can I still benefit from their expertise without paying for the full package? I'm worried that if I don't get the multi-year review, I might miss something important from previous years.
You absolutely can benefit from their expertise on just this year's return. A good tax professional will naturally flag any concerning items they notice while preparing your current return, even without doing a formal review of previous years. If they spot something that looks like it might have been an issue in prior years, they'll mention it to you. Then you can decide whether it's worth paying for a more thorough review of those specific past returns. This more targeted approach often saves money while still addressing the most important issues.
Have you considered a middle ground like H&R Block's premium service? They have CPAs and enrolled agents who handle complex returns with investment income and multi-state filing. Might cost around $500-800 which is way less than your quote but more thorough than basic TurboTax.
I used H&R Block's premium service for a similar situation (RSUs and multiple states) and it was a disaster. They missed several deductions and didn't properly account for the double taxation issues between states. Had to file an amended return with a real CPA later. Would not recommend for truly complex situations.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that you need to be careful about "lavish or extravagant" expenses. The IRS specifically says you can't deduct these, even at the 50% rate. They don't define exactly what counts as lavish, but serving expensive champagne or high-end liquor could potentially raise red flags. For my home-based business, I stick to mid-range wines and standard drinks to avoid any issues. Also, if you have a dedicated home office that you take a deduction for, make sure your client meetings are held in that space if you want to maximize your deductions. Otherwise it could complicate your home office deduction.
What's considered "lavish"? Is there like a specific dollar amount per person that triggers IRS attention? I sometimes serve nice scotch to clients because it's relevant to my business discussions.
There's no specific dollar amount defined by the IRS for what's considered "lavish" - it's somewhat subjective and depends on your business context. If serving premium scotch is ordinary and necessary in your industry (like if you work with high-net-worth clients or in an industry where this is standard practice), you can make a reasonable case for it. The key is whether the expense is appropriate for your business context. A $200 bottle of scotch might be perfectly reasonable for financial advisors meeting with wealthy clients, but could be questioned for a web design business meeting with small business owners. Document why the expense is appropriate for your specific business situation and client relationships.
Another important consideration - if you're having these meetings at home, be extra careful to separate your personal food/drink from the business expenses. I use a separate credit card just for client purchases to make it crystal clear. Also, alcohol gets extra scrutiny, so my accountant advised me to be very detailed about business discussions when alcohol is involved. She recommended noting start/end times of meetings and specific business outcomes achieved.
Do you think it's better to just avoid serving alcohol altogether? I'm worried about the extra scrutiny.
If your trust is really simple, I've used TurboTax Business for my family's trust for the past 3 years. It's not cheap (around $200) but still way less than an accountant. The interface is pretty easy if you have basic info like: - Trust's income sources (interest, dividends, etc) - Any expenses the trust paid - Info about distributions to beneficiaries Just make sure you have the right TurboTax version - the regular one won't do 1041s.
Thanks for the TurboTax suggestion. The $200 price tag is definitely more reasonable than $850! Is there a significant learning curve the first time you use it for trust returns? I'm trying to gauge how much time I should set aside to figure this out.
The first year took me about 3 hours to get everything set up and understand how the trust taxation works. The software walks you through everything step by step, but there are some trust-specific concepts that take a bit to wrap your head around. The second and third years were much faster - maybe 45 minutes total since all the trust's basic information was already saved in the system. If your trust has straightforward income like interest or dividends, it's pretty manageable. The only tricky parts tend to be understanding when income is taxed at the trust level versus passed through to beneficiaries.
Gonna throw out a different suggestion - check if your local library has a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program. Some locations have volunteers certified to do basic trust returns, especially if the trust income is mainly from interest, dividends, or basic investments. Totally free service and might be worth checking into!
VITA programs typically only handle basic 1040s with income under certain limits. I've never seen one that handles fiduciary returns like 1041s for trusts. Are you sure about this info?
The IRS EITC Assistant is actually pretty good if you input everything correctly. Make sure you're counting all sources of earned income (W-2 jobs plus net self-employment) but separating out any unearned income like investments or unemployment. Don't get tripped up by the investment income limit question - that's asking about interests, dividends, and capital gains, not your 401k or IRA.
Is anyone else having issues with the EITC assistant tool crashing? I tried using it on Chrome and Firefox and it keeps freezing up when I get to the income section. Not sure if it's just me or if the IRS website is having problems.
Nia Wilson
One thing to keep in mind - the deadline for providing 1099-NEC to contractors is January 31, but you have until February 28 for paper filing to the IRS (March 31 if filing electronically). So you might still have time depending on when you're reading this. Also, don't forget you need the contractor's W-9 form before filing the 1099-NEC. If you don't have their correct TIN (tax ID number), you could face penalties for incorrect information.
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Omar Zaki
ā¢Thanks for this clarification! The deadline thing was confusing me. I do have their W-9s collected already, so that part is covered at least. Do you know if there's any benefit to filing electronically versus paper, assuming I can get either done by the right deadline?
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Nia Wilson
ā¢Filing electronically has several advantages over paper filing. First, you get that extra month (until March 31) to file with the IRS. Second, electronic filing significantly reduces the chance of errors since validation checks happen automatically. Third, you get immediate confirmation that your forms were received, unlike paper filing where you have no proof of receipt. Also, if you have to file 1099s for more than 10 contractors, you're required to file electronically anyway. Even with fewer forms, electronic filing is generally faster, more secure, and gives you better records for your business.
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Mateo Sanchez
Another thing to consider - if you're using accounting software like QuickBooks, they usually have 1099 preparation built in. You can e-file directly through their system if you've been tracking your contractor payments correctly throughout the year. I've used this for the past 3 years and it's super simple - the system generates all the forms automatically based on how you've categorized payments. Worth checking if you're already using any accounting software!
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Aisha Mahmood
ā¢Is this true for the cheaper versions of QuickBooks too? I have QB Self-Employed and wasn't sure if that includes 1099 filing or if it's only in the more expensive tiers.
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