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I'm a tax preparer (not CPA) and November is absolutely not too early to book for tax season. We start booking returning clients in October and new clients in November. By January, we're usually booked through mid-March. One suggestion - ask if they offer a pre-tax season planning meeting in December. Many CPAs offer this service where they can review the situation and give advice before year-end. This is especially useful with real estate since there might be things your in-laws can do before December 31st to optimize their tax situation.
What's the difference between a tax preparer and a CPA? Would a regular tax preparer be able to handle real estate investments from another country or is that something only a CPA should handle?
A CPA has more extensive education, passed the CPA exam, and maintains specific continuing education requirements. Tax preparers like me have various levels of certification (I'm an Enrolled Agent which means I'm licensed by the IRS). For international real estate investments, I would strongly recommend a CPA with specific experience in that area. While some experienced EAs could handle it, CPAs typically have more training with complex international tax issues. Foreign real estate can involve foreign tax credits, FBAR filings, and other complex reporting requirements that go beyond basic tax preparation. This is definitely a situation where expertise matters more than price.
I would recommend calling now but expecting to book for February. January is when most people are still waiting for documents to arrive. Most W-2s and 1099s don't even come until late January or early February, so unless your in-laws have everything ready super early, a February appointment makes more sense.
This depends entirely on the complexity. For simple returns, sure. But for real estate investments, especially with foreign ownership, earlier meetings can be crucial for gathering all the required documentation. Sometimes these returns require information that takes weeks to track down.
I see everyone suggesting the identity theft angle which is definitely possible, but there could be another explanation. The IRS sometimes makes major data entry errors. Last year they attached someone else's W-2 to my account by mistake - had a similar name but completely wrong SSN. Could be worth checking your Social Security statement online to see if there's any reported income from that employer there too. If it's not showing on your SS record but is on your IRS transcript, that strengthens the case that it's just an IRS error rather than actual identity theft.
I hadn't even thought about checking my Social Security statement! Just logged in and interestingly there's no record of that employer or the $78k on my Social Security earnings record. Does that mean it's more likely just an IRS error than actual identity theft? Should I still follow all the identity theft steps everyone mentioned or is there a faster way to resolve this?
If it's not showing up on your Social Security earnings record, that's actually good news! It suggests it's more likely an IRS processing error rather than someone actually using your info to work somewhere. I'd still take precautions like monitoring your credit, but you might be able to resolve this more quickly by calling the IRS and specifically telling them it appears to be a processing error since the income doesn't appear on your Social Security record. Ask to speak with someone in the Wage and Income department rather than Identity Theft. In my case, they were able to remove the incorrect W-2 and release my refund within about 6 weeks of identifying the error. Still frustrating, but faster than the full identity theft resolution process!
Make sure you also check if the company actually exists! Google the company name, look them up on your state's business registry website, etc. I had a weird W-2 show up and spent weeks on the identity theft process only to discover the company was legitimate but had transposed some digits in the SSN they reported to the IRS. The fastest resolution came when I actually contacted the company's HR department directly. They were able to correct the error on their end and submit amended forms to the IRS.
Just to add another data point - I actually did exactly what you're describing about 2 years ago. I had approximately $215k in my Roth 401k (about $120k contributions) and rolled it to my existing Roth IRA which had about $35k (with $25k being contributions). After the rollover, my contribution basis was properly tracked as $145k total. I needed money for a medical emergency about 3 months later and was able to withdraw $52k without any tax consequences or penalties. The key is making sure your 401k plan administrator correctly reports the contribution portion of your rollover. My plan provided a statement breaking down the contributions vs. earnings portions, which I kept for my records. When I filed my taxes the following year, everything worked as expected - no issues.
That's really helpful to hear a real-world example! Did you have to do anything special on your tax return to document the rollover and subsequent withdrawal? And did your 401k plan administrator automatically provide that contribution/earnings breakdown, or did you have to specifically request it?
You'll receive a 1099-R from your 401k provider showing the total distribution, and you'll need to report the rollover on your tax return. For the withdrawal, you'll get a 1099-R from your IRA custodian the following year. I didn't need to file any special forms since my withdrawal was less than my total contributions, but I did keep detailed records of my basis. My plan administrator provided the contribution/earnings breakdown automatically as part of the distribution paperwork. If yours doesn't, definitely request it - you need this documentation to establish your basis. Some administrators have this readily available, while others might require you to specifically ask for a "distribution statement showing contribution and earnings portions.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - while the ordering rules do work as everyone's described (contributions come out first), be careful about one detail: the timing! If you roll over your Roth 401k to a NEW Roth IRA (rather than one you've had for 5+ years), you might still face the 5-year rule on qualified distributions of EARNINGS. Contributions can still come out anytime, but if you're trying to access earnings within 5 years of establishing your FIRST Roth IRA, those earnings would be subject to tax/penalty even if you're over 59.5. The 5-year clock for earnings starts when you open your first Roth IRA, not when you do the rollover. This trips up a lot of people who wait until retirement to open their first Roth account.
Wait I'm confused. So if I open my first ever Roth IRA today at age 55, then immediately roll over my Roth 401k that I've had for 20 years, I still have to wait until age 60 to access the earnings tax-free even though I'll be past 59.5?
That's exactly right. The 5-year rule for Roth IRA earnings requires that your first Roth IRA was established at least 5 tax years ago AND you're 59½ or meet another exception (disability, first-time home purchase, etc.). So in your example, if you open your first Roth IRA at 55 and roll over your 20-year Roth 401k, you could access all the contribution portions immediately without tax or penalty. However, for the earnings to come out tax-free, you'd need to wait until both: 1) you're 59½ (which you already are), and 2) it's been 5 tax years since you established your first Roth IRA - so that would be at age 60.
Current landlord here (5 properties). One strategy that worked well for me was creating an LLC for my rental properties and electing S-Corp taxation. This allowed me to pay myself a reasonable salary with proper withholding while also taking distributions. It's definitely more complicated than just increasing your W-4 withholding, but it can potentially save you on self-employment taxes depending on your situation. Just something to consider if your rental business grows.
Doesn't creating an LLC and doing the S-Corp election cost a lot in administrative fees? I've heard you need to run payroll and everything. Is it really worth it for just one property?
You're right that it doesn't make financial sense for just one property. The administrative costs (state filing fees, payroll service, possibly a CPA) would likely outweigh the tax benefits until you have multiple properties generating significant income. For a single property, increasing your W-4 withholding or making quarterly estimated payments is definitely more cost-effective. I'd say the S-Corp approach usually starts making sense around 3-5 properties or when rental income exceeds about $40,000 annually. Until then, the simpler approaches others have mentioned are your best bet.
dont forget about depreciation! it will offset some of ur rental income. my first year as landlord i was worried about owing but the depreciation deduction was huge and actually cancelled out most of my rental profits for tax purposes. talk to a tax person about this.
This is really important. Depreciation is actually required by the IRS even if you don't claim it. And they'll hit you with depreciation recapture taxes when you sell regardless. So definitely claim it!
Sofia Morales
Have you considered setting up a trading LLC? If your options trading is consistent enough, you might qualify for trader tax status which comes with some decent benefits like deducting expenses related to your trading activities and potentially making a Section 475 mark-to-market election to avoid wash sale headaches. But be careful, the criteria are strict and the IRS watches this area closely.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
ā¢I've heard about trading LLCs but wasn't sure if my volume would qualify. I do about 3-5 trades per week, mostly multi-leg options strategies. Would that be enough activity to potentially qualify for trader status? And what kinds of expenses could I deduct if I went this route?
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Sofia Morales
ā¢Based on 3-5 trades per week, you might be borderline for trader tax status. The IRS looks for substantial activity (often daily), seeking income from the activity's price swings rather than dividends/interest, and a significant amount of time dedicated to it. Multi-leg options strategies do show sophistication, which helps. If you qualify, you could potentially deduct home office expenses, computer equipment, trading platform subscriptions, investment research materials, education related to trading, and even a portion of your internet and phone bills. These would be business deductions rather than investment expenses, which makes a big difference tax-wise.
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Dmitry Popov
Nobody's mentioned the Qualified Opportunity Zone investments yet. If you're open to some real estate exposure, QOZ investments let you defer capital gains taxes until 2026 if you reinvest your gains within 180 days. It's not for everyone, but worth looking into for significant gains.
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Ava Garcia
ā¢I looked into QOZs for my options profits last year. The deferral is nice but remember you're locking up capital in often speculative development projects. Most require $50k+ minimums and 7-10 year commitments. The funds also have high fees. Just make sure you're not making a bad investment just to save on taxes.
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