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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - KEEP RECORDS OF EVERYTHING. If you've submitted your Schedule C, make copies of absolutely everything you sent. When I went through this, the IRS "lost" my first response and claimed they never received it. Luckily I had certified mail receipt and copies of everything. Also, don't forget to look into abatement of penalties. If this is your first offense and you have a good history of filing and paying taxes on time, you can request "first-time penalty abatement" which can potentially remove the failure-to-pay penalties. Won't help with the interest, but could save you a decent chunk of money.
I did keep copies of everything and sent it certified mail, so I have tracking confirmation they received it. Thank god for that tip! How exactly do I go about requesting this first-time penalty abatement? Is that something I can do now or do I need to wait for their response to my Schedule C submission?
You'll want to wait until you get their response to your Schedule C submission, as that will have the updated amount they believe you owe, including any penalties. Once you receive that, you can call the IRS (or use a service to get through) and specifically request "first-time penalty abatement" if you qualify. To qualify, you generally need to have had no penalties in the past 3 tax years and have filed all required returns and paid (or arranged to pay) any tax due. If approved, they'll remove the failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties, which can sometimes be a substantial portion of what you owe. Just be sure to specifically use the phrase "first-time penalty abatement" when requesting it, as some representatives won't offer it unless you ask.
Don't panic about the initial amount they say you owe! My CP2000 initially said I owed $23k and after submitting my Schedule C with all my expenses, it went down to $4.5k. Make sure you're claiming EVERY legitimate business expense. Some expenses people often forget: home office deduction (if applicable), portion of cell phone and internet bills, professional development/training, subscriptions related to your work, software, professional services (like accounting), bank fees for business accounts, and depreciation of equipment.
This is key advice. When I got my CP2000 for some freelance work, I initially only claimed the obvious expenses. After doing more research, I realized I could legitimately claim partial use of my vehicle, a portion of my utilities since I worked from home, and even some travel expenses for meetings with clients. Cut my tax bill by more than half.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - since you and your wife file separately, you need to be careful about how the rental loss is allocated. Since the mortgage is paid from YOUR account not a joint account, you might be able to claim more of the expenses, but the IRS could still view it as 50/50 ownership since you're married. Also, filing separately means the passive activity loss threshold is only $12,500 instead of $25,000, and it starts phasing out at $50,000 of modified AGI instead of $100,000. This could significantly limit how much of the mortgage interest you can actually deduct.
One thing to watch out for - if you don't get a tenant until March, make sure you can prove you were ACTIVELY trying to rent it starting much earlier. The IRS looks for evidence that you were making reasonable efforts to rent it at market rates. My sister got audited because she claimed rental expenses for 6 months before getting a tenant, but couldn't prove she was actually trying to rent it out during that time. Keep screenshots of rental listings, emails with potential tenants, and a rental journal showing all your activities related to renting it out.
That's a great tip, thank you! The flood damage definitely set us back, but we've been working on renovations specifically to get it ready to rent. Does documenting the renovation process count as proof of intent to rent?
Yes, documenting the renovation process is helpful, but it's not sufficient on its own. The IRS wants to see that you were actively trying to find tenants as soon as the property was habitable. Take pictures of the renovation with dates, keep all receipts and contractor communications that mention preparing for rental, but also start some rental-specific activities even before the property is 100% ready. For example, draft your rental listing, research comparable rents in your area and save those findings, contact insurance companies about landlord policies, and maybe even pre-screen a few potential tenants. Creating this paper trail of rental intent alongside your renovation documentation will give you much stronger proof if questioned.
Just as a data point, I've had a Solo 401k with Vanguard for about 5 years now with both traditional and Roth components. They automatically set both up under the same plan number but with different account numbers. From what I understand, this is standard practice and the correct way to do it. The plan number is what identifies your retirement plan as a whole to the IRS, while the account numbers are just for the financial institution's internal tracking. Definitely get them matched up before you have to file any Form 5500 paperwork.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Do you know at what point I would need to file Form 5500? I thought solo 401ks were exempt from that unless the assets exceed $250,000?
You're right that solo 401ks are exempt from Form 5500 filing requirements until your total plan assets exceed $250,000. Once you cross that threshold, you'll need to file Form 5500-EZ annually. Even if you're below that threshold now, it's still good practice to have your plan documentation consistent and organized from the beginning. Makes life much easier if/when you do eventually need to start filing, and prevents headaches if you ever get audited or need to roll the accounts over to a different provider.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this yet, but you might want to double check if your E-Trade solo 401k plan document actually allows for Roth contributions in the first place. Some off-the-shelf solo 401k plans don't include this option unless specifically elected. If your plan document doesn't include the Roth option but you've been making Roth contributions, that could be a bigger issue than just having different plan numbers.
Look into whether your Cash App account is personal or business. I accidentally set mine up as a business account years ago and didn't realize it until I got hit with a 1099-K. All my friend payments were being flagged as business income! You can check in your profile settings. If it's set as business, you might want to create a new personal account for your roommate transactions and keep them separate.
Wait how do I even check this? I literally just signed up with my email years ago and never thought about it. Is there a specific setting I need to look for?
Go to your profile icon, then "Personal" at the bottom. If you see an option that says "Switch to Business" then you're currently on a personal account which is good. If it says something like "Business Settings" or shows a business name, then you have a business account. Cash App also has colors - personal accounts are usually green while business accounts are typically black. Double check this ASAP because it makes a huge difference in how your transactions are reported!
My roommate and I started using Venmo instead of Cash App because we heard they have clearer distinctions between personal and business transactions. Anyone else switch platforms to avoid this issue?
KingKongZilla
Don't forget about prorating your expenses for the year you converted the property! If you converted your home to a rental in July, you can only deduct expenses from July-December. This includes property taxes and mortgage interest - you'd claim the first half of the year on Schedule A if you itemize, and the second half on Schedule E. Also, keep track of "startup expenses" when converting to a rental - things like advertising costs, credit check fees for tenants, etc. These have specific rules for deductibility.
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Skylar Neal
ā¢Thanks for bringing up the prorating - I converted in September, so that's really helpful. For the startup expenses, is there a limit to how much I can deduct in the first year? And what about the lawn mower and tools I bought specifically for maintaining the rental?
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KingKongZilla
ā¢You can deduct up to $5,000 in startup expenses in your first year, with amounts above that amortized over 15 years. But these are specifically business startup costs like advertising, not equipment. For the lawn mower and tools, those are considered assets used for your rental activity. You can either depreciate them over their useful life (usually 5-7 years) OR you might qualify for Section 179 expensing or bonus depreciation to deduct them immediately. It depends on your specific situation and the total amount spent. Small tools under $200 each can generally be expensed immediately regardless.
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Rebecca Johnston
Anyone know if I can deduct rental losses against my regular income? I have a similar situation with a rental property that's currently operating at a loss but I have a good W-2 job.
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Nathan Dell
ā¢You might qualify for the $25,000 special allowance for rental losses if your modified adjusted gross income is under $100,000 and you "actively participate" in rental management. This phases out entirely once your MAGI hits $150,000. If your income is higher, your losses are suspended until you either have passive income or sell the property.
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