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How does Doordash income affect my tax return compared to W-2 employment?

Hey guys, I'm really confused about my taxes this year. I'm a senior in high school and this is only my 3rd time filing taxes. I'm using FreeTaxUSA and running into something weird. Last year I made around $4800 from my job at a local diner where taxes were withheld from my paychecks, and I got a $138 tax refund. This year, I made about $3500 from my main job at a pizza shop (with tax withholding) plus about $1200 from Doordash on the side. When I entered everything into FreeTaxUSA, it's showing I owe $176 federal and $8 state tax on my Doordash income. What's really confusing me is that the software is showing $0 refund from my pizza shop job. I thought I'd still get a similar refund from that job like last year, and it would just be reduced by what I owe for Doordash. Can someone explain how this works? Is this normal when you have both W-2 income and side gig income? I'm totally lost on why my refund situation changed so much.

This is actually a really common situation when you start doing gig work like Doordash! The big difference is that with your pizza shop job, they're withholding taxes from each paycheck. But with Doordash, you're considered an independent contractor (self-employed), so no taxes are being withheld. When you do self-employment work, you're responsible for paying both the employee and employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (that's called self-employment tax) plus income tax on that money. That's why you're seeing that you owe $176 federal and $8 state. As for why you're not getting a refund from your W-2 job this year - it's likely that the withholding from your pizza shop job was just enough to cover your tax liability from that income, but not enough to also cover what you owe on the Doordash income. Last year, you probably had a bit more withheld than you needed, which is why you got that $138 refund.

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QuantumQuasar

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Thanks for explaining! So does this mean I should be setting aside money from each Doordash payment for taxes since they're not taking anything out? Also, how much should I be saving? Is there a percentage that most people use?

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Yes, you should definitely be setting aside money from your Doordash earnings for taxes! A good rule of thumb is to save about 25-30% of your gig earnings for taxes. This covers both the self-employment tax (about 15.3%) and income tax on those earnings. Many gig workers open a separate savings account just for their tax money and transfer a portion of each payment right away. This makes it much easier when tax time comes around. Some more experienced independent contractors also make quarterly estimated tax payments throughout the year to avoid a big bill at tax time.

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Jamal Wilson

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Mei Lin

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Does it work with FreeTaxUSA? I'm using that too and wondering if I can import stuff between them or if I have to start over with a new system?

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Jamal Wilson

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Mei Lin

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NebulaNinja

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Amara Nnamani

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NebulaNinja

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I need to apologize for calling Claimyr a scam. After my frustrated comment here, I decided to try it myself since I was getting nowhere with the IRS on my own. I was honestly shocked when I got a call back connecting me to an actual IRS agent after about 45 minutes (had been trying for 3 days on my own). The agent confirmed exactly what others here were saying about needing to set aside money for self-employment tax with gig work. They also explained that my school job withholding was correct, but just wasn't enough to cover the additional taxes from my side gig. The peace of mind from talking to an official source was worth it.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - look into quarterly estimated tax payments for next year! I learned this the hard way. If you expect to owe more than $1000 in taxes at filing time, you're supposed to make estimated payments throughout the year (typically April, June, September, and January). If you don't, you might get hit with underpayment penalties on top of your tax bill. There's a form called 1040-ES you can use to figure out how much to pay each quarter. It's not that complicated once you get the hang of it.

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QuantumQuasar

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Thanks for mentioning this! Do you know if there's a minimum amount I need to earn from Doordash before I have to worry about quarterly payments? I might not do as much delivery work next semester when my classes get harder.

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The quarterly payment requirement is based on your total tax situation, not just how much you earn from Doordash. The general rule is if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes when you file your return, you should make estimated payments. If you think you'll make less next semester, you can adjust your estimates accordingly. The 1040-ES form helps you calculate this based on your projected income. Another option is to increase the withholding at your pizza job to cover the taxes on your Doordash income - you can do this by submitting a new W-4 form asking for additional withholding.

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Don't forget to track your miles when doing Doordash! You can deduct 65.5 cents per mile for 2023 tax year which can really add up and lower your tax bill. There are apps that will track this for you automatically. Also, you can deduct part of your phone bill since you need your phone for the app. Some people even deduct things like hot bags, car chargers, etc. All these deductions help lower your self-employment income and therefore lower your tax bill.

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Sofia Morales

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Just be careful with deductions. My brother tried to claim his entire phone bill and got audited. The IRS made him prove what percentage was actually for Doordash vs personal use. Better to be conservative and keep good records!

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