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Have any of you seen cases where a disregarded entity was incorrectly issued a 1099 under its own EIN rather than the parent's? We did this accidentally last year and now I'm worried about potential penalties or issues when the parent files their return.
Yes, I've seen this happen and it can create a matching issue at the IRS. Since the disregarded entity doesn't file its own tax return, the IRS computer system can't match the 1099 income to a filed return. The parent should include that income on their return and explain the discrepancy with a note that the 1099 was incorrectly issued to their disregarded entity.
This is a really common source of confusion, and you're absolutely right to question this practice. What your client is doing - mixing disregarded entity EINs with parent W-9s - creates unnecessary complications and doesn't align with IRS requirements. The key issue here is that a disregarded entity, by definition, is ignored for federal tax purposes. Even if the disregarded entity has its own EIN (which it might need for state taxes, employment taxes, or banking purposes), for federal information reporting like 1099s, you must use the parent/owner's EIN. Your client should provide clean W-9s with: - Line 1: Disregarded entity name - Line 2: Parent/owner name - Part I: Parent/owner's EIN If they need you to track payments separately by disregarded entity for their internal purposes, that's fine - but the 1099s should still be issued under the parent's EIN. You might want to explain that using the disregarded entity's EIN could create matching problems when the IRS tries to reconcile the 1099s with filed tax returns, since the disregarded entity doesn't file its own return. I'd recommend having them provide corrected W-9s that follow standard IRS guidelines to avoid any compliance issues down the road.
This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed! Thank you for breaking down the proper W-9 format so clearly. I'm going to use this structure when I go back to my client to request corrected forms. One follow-up question - if the client pushes back and insists they need to use the disregarded entity EIN for "business reasons," would it be appropriate for me to document their insistence in our files while still following the proper reporting procedures? I want to make sure we're covered from a compliance standpoint if they refuse to provide corrected W-9s.
Just want to point out something else - if he's receiving SSI (not SSDI), there's a very important distinction. SSI is not taxable and doesn't appear on tax returns at all. SSDI might be taxable depending on other income. Make sure you're entering his disability income correctly in the tax software. Also, depending on the twins' adoption situation, there might be an Adoption Tax Credit he could claim if this was a recent adoption. This credit has different rules than the Child Tax Credit.
Is there a way to tell if you're receiving SSI vs SSDI? My mom gets disability payments but I'm not sure which type it is. Does it say on the statements?
Yes, you can tell from the statements! SSI statements will say "Supplemental Security Income" and come from your local Social Security office. SSDI statements say "Social Security Disability Insurance" and the payments come directly from Social Security Administration. Also, SSI has strict income and asset limits (usually around $2,000 in assets), while SSDI is based on your work history and doesn't have asset limits. If your mom worked and paid into Social Security for at least 10 years, it's more likely SSDI. The distinction matters a lot for taxes - SSDI might be taxable income, but SSI never is. You can also check by logging into her my Social Security account online or calling Social Security directly if you're unsure.
This is such a frustrating situation that so many people face! I went through something similar with my brother who's on SSDI with two kids. One thing that really helped us was getting a clear understanding of ALL the credits he might qualify for, not just the big ones everyone talks about. Beyond what others have mentioned about the Credit for Other Dependents, there are sometimes state-level credits that have different requirements than federal ones. Also, double-check that TaxAct is calculating everything correctly. Sometimes tax software doesn't handle disability income situations well, especially when there are qualifying dependents involved. You might want to try running the same info through a different tax program (many offer free versions) to see if you get different results. The suggestion about earning just a small amount of income to cross that $2,500 threshold is really smart. Even something like selling items online occasionally or doing small odd jobs (within disability limitations) could make a huge difference in qualifying for credits. The math often works out where the tax credits far exceed any small reduction in benefits. Keep advocating for him - you're doing great by not just accepting the software's initial answer!
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm dealing with a similar FSA/HSA overlap issue and wanted to share another resource that helped me understand the timeline complexities everyone's discussing. The IRS Publication 969 has a specific section on HSA eligibility that breaks down exactly how FSA coverage affects HSA contributions, including details about grace periods and carryovers that several people mentioned. What I found particularly helpful was the example scenarios they provide - one specifically addresses the situation where someone has FSA coverage for only part of the year. One thing I learned from Pub 969 that wasn't mentioned yet: if you're married filing jointly and your spouse has family HDHP coverage through her employer, you both need to be HSA-eligible for her to make family-level contributions. So even if she has the qualifying health plan, your FSA disqualifies the entire family from HSA contributions, not just you individually. This whole experience has definitely made me realize how complex these health account rules are. For 2025 enrollment, I'm planning to ask HR for a written summary of how our FSA options interact with HSA eligibility before making any decisions!
This is such a valuable point about Publication 969! I wish I had known about that resource when I first ran into this issue. The example scenarios you mentioned sound really helpful - I've been struggling to understand exactly how the family coverage rules work when spouses have different employers. Your point about both spouses needing to be HSA-eligible for family-level contributions is crucial and something I hadn't fully grasped. It really drives home how one person's FSA can affect the entire household's HSA strategy, not just their individual eligibility. The idea of getting written documentation from HR about FSA/HSA interactions is brilliant. I bet a lot of people would avoid these mistakes if the rules were clearly explained upfront instead of having to discover them after the fact when you're already dealing with excess contributions and potential penalties. Thanks for sharing the Publication 969 reference - I'm definitely going to review that before making any 2025 enrollment decisions!
This is such a comprehensive discussion! I'm in a very similar situation and wanted to add one more consideration that might help others. If you're planning to drop your FSA for 2025 to allow HSA contributions, make sure to time any remaining 2024 FSA reimbursements carefully. Some employers require you to submit receipts by a certain deadline even if you have funds remaining, and you don't want to lose money you've already contributed. Also, I've seen some people mention they wish they had known about these rules earlier. For anyone reading this thread who might be in a similar situation for future years: many employers now offer "HSA-compatible" health plans alongside traditional options. If HSA eligibility is important to your family's tax strategy, it's worth asking your HR department during open enrollment if they offer high-deductible health plans that would make you HSA-eligible, even if your spouse has FSA coverage through her employer. The interaction between these accounts is definitely more complex than most people realize when they're just trying to save on healthcare costs!
That's a really important point about timing FSA reimbursements! I hadn't thought about the deadline issue when planning to drop FSA coverage for next year. I'm curious about the "HSA-compatible" health plans you mentioned. Are these typically the same as high-deductible health plans (HDHPs), or is there something specific that makes them more compatible with HSA rules? My employer offers a few different health plan options, but I've never seen them specifically labeled as "HSA-compatible." Also, does anyone know if there are minimum deductible requirements that need to be met for 2025? I want to make sure I'm asking HR the right questions during our upcoming open enrollment period. This whole thread has made me realize I need to do a lot more research before making health benefit decisions! The complexity of these rules really is eye-opening. It seems like there should be some kind of benefits decision tool that automatically flags potential conflicts between different account types before you enroll.
Friendly reminder to everyone that the IRS is SEVERELY understaffed and underfunded! They're still dealing with backlogs from the pandemic and system limitations. The people answering phones are doing their best with limited resources. My sister works for the IRS and says amended returns are processed in the order received, but there are exceptions where returns get flagged for various reasons that require manual review. Sometimes these get stuck in queues waiting for available staff. Yes it's frustrating but the frontline employees aren't the ones creating these delays! They literally can't process returns any faster than the antiquated systems and staffing levels allow.
That's all fine and good but 9 MONTHS for an amended return is ridiculous no matter how you slice it. The IRS managed to process the 2020 return quickly, why is 2021 any different? And why do they keep saying "30 more days" when it's clearly not true? Being understaffed doesn't justify giving people false information.
I completely understand your frustration - 9 months is definitely excessive for an amended return, especially when your 2020 amendment was processed quickly. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like there might be a specific issue holding up your 2021 return that the phone reps aren't identifying. I'd strongly recommend trying multiple approaches simultaneously: 1. Request your account transcript online through the IRS website - this often shows processing codes and flags that phone reps don't mention 2. Contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 - they're specifically designed to help with situations like yours where normal channels aren't working 3. Reach out to your Congressional representative's office - many have constituent services that can inquire directly with the IRS on your behalf The fact that you mentioned unemployment income and a change from HOH to married filing status might be relevant - sometimes these changes trigger additional reviews that can cause delays. When you call next, specifically ask if there are any "freeze codes" or "hold codes" on your account and request to speak with someone who can actually review your file rather than just check the general status. Don't give up - 9 months with no clear explanation is not acceptable, and you have legitimate options to escalate this beyond the standard phone support.
This is really helpful advice! I'm wondering though - when you request the account transcript online, do you need any special information beyond what you'd normally use to log into the IRS website? I've been hesitant to create an IRS online account because I've heard mixed things about their identity verification process, but if the transcript really shows more detailed codes than what the phone reps share, it might be worth the hassle. Also, has anyone had experience with how long it typically takes to hear back from a Congressional representative's office once you reach out? I'm in a similar situation (6 months waiting on an amended return) and I'm trying to figure out the best order to try these different options.
Austin Leonard
Just wanted to add another data point for anyone reading this thread - I've been filing from Singapore for 5 years now and can confirm that foreign wages definitely go on Line 1a. One thing I learned the hard way is to make sure you're using the correct exchange rates when converting SGD to USD. The IRS requires you to use the Treasury Department's yearly average exchange rates (available on their website) rather than spot rates or your bank's conversion rates. This can make a meaningful difference in your reported income amount. Also, since you mentioned you're using tax software, double-check that it's properly handling the Singapore tax year vs US tax year difference. Singapore's tax year runs from January to December, but make sure you're reporting the right period's income on your US return. I made this mistake my first year and had to file an amended return. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion should cover your full $58k income assuming you meet the physical presence test (330 days in Singapore during any 12-month period). Keep a simple spreadsheet tracking your days in/out of Singapore - it'll save you headaches later if the IRS ever asks for documentation.
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LunarLegend
ā¢This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about using Treasury Department exchange rates! I had no idea there was a specific requirement for which rates to use. I've been using whatever rate my bank showed me when I converted money, which could definitely be causing issues. Quick question about the spreadsheet tracking - do you just track the actual dates you're in/out of Singapore, or do you also note the reasons for travel? I'm planning a few trips back to the US this year to visit family and want to make sure I'm documenting everything properly for the physical presence test. Also, when you mention the Singapore vs US tax year difference, are you referring to making sure the income reported aligns with the US calendar year (Jan-Dec) even though that might span across different Singapore tax periods? Want to make sure I understand this correctly before I file.
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Evan Kalinowski
ā¢@LunarLegend For the spreadsheet tracking, I just keep it simple - date in, date out, and destination/origin. You don't need to document reasons for travel for IRS purposes, but I do include a brief note (like "family visit" or "business trip") just for my own records. The IRS only cares about the actual days you were physically present in a foreign country. Regarding the tax year alignment - yes, exactly! You need to report income that corresponds to the US tax year (January 1 to December 31) on your US return, regardless of when Singapore's tax year runs or when you received certain payments. So for your 2024 US tax return, you'd report all income earned from January 1, 2024 to December 31, 2024, even if some of that spans different Singapore tax periods. One more tip: the Treasury exchange rates are published annually, usually around March/April for the previous year. Until then, you can use the Federal Reserve's daily rates, but switch to the Treasury annual average once it's available. Makes everything much cleaner and more defensible if questioned.
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QuantumQuester
Just want to echo what everyone else has said - your Singapore wages definitely belong on Line 1a of Form 1040, not Line 1h. I went through this exact same confusion when I first moved to Hong Kong for work. One thing that might help clarify the logic: Line 1a is for ALL wages and salaries, regardless of the source country. Line 1h is specifically for miscellaneous income that doesn't fit into any of the other defined categories on the form (like gambling winnings, jury duty pay, etc.). Your regular employment income from Singapore is still wages, just foreign wages. The fact that you'll be excluding it later with Form 2555 doesn't change where you initially report it. Think of it as a two-step process: first you report ALL your worldwide income in the appropriate sections, then you apply exclusions and credits to reduce your taxable amount. Since you're earning about $58k USD equivalent and have been in Singapore for 3 years, you should easily qualify for the full Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (assuming you meet the physical presence test). Just make sure your tax software is set up to handle foreign income properly - most major programs have specific workflows for expats that will walk you through both the initial reporting and the exclusion forms.
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A Man D Mortal
ā¢This is such a helpful thread! As someone who just moved to Singapore last month for work, I'm already dreading next year's tax season. It's reassuring to see that so many people have successfully navigated this process. One question I have - since I'll only be in Singapore for part of 2025 (started in December 2024), do I need to prorate anything for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, or does it work differently when you're not abroad for the full tax year? I'm assuming I'll still report all my income on Line 1a regardless, but wondering about the exclusion calculation for a partial year abroad. Also, @QuantumQuester, when you mention making sure tax software is set up properly for foreign income - are there specific settings or flags I should look for? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess something up in the setup process.
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