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19 Most tax software now has a feature where you can enter income without a 1099 form. I use TurboTax and there's literally an option that says "I didn't get a 1099-NEC." You just enter the payer's information and amount manually.
I'm dealing with something similar right now - one of my clients hasn't sent my 1099 yet and tax season is approaching fast. From what I understand, the IRS cares more about accurate income reporting than having the actual forms. I've been keeping detailed records of all my payments throughout the year, including invoices, payment confirmations, and bank deposits. If you know exactly what you were paid, you can definitely file without the 1099. Just make sure you report the full amount and keep good documentation in case there are any questions later. The company is supposed to send 1099s by January 31st, so they're already late. Don't let their poor organization delay your filing - especially if you're expecting a refund!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm in the exact same boat - still waiting on one 1099 and getting anxious about the deadline. Your point about keeping detailed records is really reassuring. I've been tracking everything in QuickBooks, so I have invoices and payment records for everything. Do you know if there's any specific way we should note on our tax return that we're filing without the actual 1099 form? Or do we just report the income normally and keep our documentation ready in case of questions?
This has been an incredibly informative thread! I've been struggling with K-1 forms for my real estate partnership and the explanations here finally made things click for me. One thing that might help other newcomers understand the inside vs outside basis concept: think of outside basis as your personal "investment account balance" in the partnership, while inside basis is your share of what the partnership actually paid for its assets. They start the same when you contribute cash directly, but can diverge over time due to things like depreciation, debt changes, or if you bought your interest from someone else rather than contributing directly. The guaranteed payments explanation above was particularly helpful since I also receive management fees from my partnership. It's reassuring to know that those payments don't complicate my basis calculations - they're just regular taxable income separate from my partnership interest. For anyone still confused, I'd recommend keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking your outside basis year by year: starting basis + allocated income - distributions - allocated losses = ending basis. This has helped me stay on top of things and catch any discrepancies early.
This spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I've been trying to track everything in my head and keep getting confused. Do you include partnership debt in your tracking? I know that my share of partnership liabilities affects my outside basis, but I'm never sure when to add or subtract those amounts. Also, for anyone else reading this thread - the real estate partnership context is really helpful since depreciation allocations can make the inside vs outside basis differences more dramatic over time. My partnership owns rental properties and the depreciation that flows through to my K-1 reduces my outside basis, but the partnership's inside basis in the properties decreases by the full depreciation amount regardless of my ownership percentage.
Great question about tracking partnership debt in your basis calculations! Yes, your share of partnership liabilities does affect your outside basis, and it can get tricky to track properly. Here's how I handle it in my spreadsheet: I add a separate column for "Share of Partnership Debt" and update it each year based on the K-1. Your share of partnership debt increases your outside basis (since you're effectively treated as having contributed that amount), while decreases in debt reduce your basis. The timing matters too - if the partnership takes on new debt during the year, your basis increases immediately by your share of that debt, even if no cash actually flows to you. Conversely, when the partnership pays down debt, your basis decreases by your share of the debt reduction. For real estate partnerships especially, this can be significant since properties are often leveraged. If your partnership refinances or pays off mortgages, those debt changes can substantially impact your outside basis even in years when there are no actual distributions. One tip: most K-1 forms show your share of partnership liabilities in the supplemental information section, which makes it easier to track year-over-year changes. I reconcile this with my basis calculation annually to make sure everything ties out properly. The depreciation point you made is spot-on - it really does create larger divergences between inside and outside basis over time in real estate partnerships compared to other types of businesses.
This debt tracking explanation is exactly what I needed! I've been making errors in my basis calculations because I was only tracking actual cash contributions and distributions, not the debt changes. Quick follow-up question - when you say the debt changes affect basis "immediately," does that mean I should adjust my basis calculations mid-year when debt changes occur, or is it okay to just do one annual adjustment based on the year-end K-1 information? My partnership refinanced our main property in July, and I'm wondering if that affects how I should handle any distributions I received later in the year. I want to make sure I'm not accidentally taking distributions in excess of basis and triggering unexpected taxable gain. Also, thank you everyone for making this thread so educational - I went from completely confused about K-1 forms to actually understanding the concepts behind the numbers!
One thing to watch out for - make sure you're filling out Form 8332 correctly if you're the noncustodial parent claiming the child! A friend of mine got audited because they missed this step. With 50/50 custody you technically both qualify as custodial parents, but for tax purposes, whoever has the child for the most nights during the year is considered the custodial parent. If it's exactly equal, then the parent with the higher AGI is considered the custodial parent by IRS tiebreaker rules.
Wait so if they're truly 50/50 and the dad makes more ($72k vs mom's $65k), does that mean the dad is automatically the custodial parent for tax purposes? Would the mom need to fill out Form 8332 to release her claim even if they've agreed she'll claim one or both kids?
You're asking a good question about the tiebreaker rules. If custody is truly 50/50 (equal nights), then yes, the parent with the higher AGI (the dad in this case at $72k) would be considered the custodial parent for tax purposes under IRS tiebreaker rules. However, there's an important distinction here. The tiebreaker rules only come into play if BOTH parents attempt to claim the same child on their taxes. If the parents have a written agreement about who claims which child, and they follow that agreement (not both claiming the same child), then the IRS generally won't apply the tiebreakers. Form 8332 would typically be used if they decide that the mom (technically non-custodial in tiebreaker scenarios) would claim a child. The dad would "release" his claim by providing this form.
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who's been through this exact situation. My ex and I started with the alternating years approach, but switched to each claiming one child consistently after the first year. Here's why: alternating years means one of you gets a much smaller refund (or even owes money) every other year, which can mess with your budgeting. When you each claim one child every year, your tax situation stays more predictable. Also, don't forget about things like FSA contributions for medical expenses or dependent care. If you're both contributing to FSAs for the kids, you'll want to coordinate that with whoever's claiming which child. One more tip - start tracking which nights each child stays with each parent NOW, even if you think it's exactly 50/50. Life happens, kids get sick and stay extra nights with one parent, school schedules change, etc. Having actual records will save you headaches if the IRS ever questions your filing.
This is really helpful advice about tracking the nights! I never thought about how small changes in the schedule could affect the tax situation later. Quick question - when you say you switched from alternating years to each claiming one child, did you notice a big difference in your combined tax savings? I'm trying to figure out if the predictability is worth potentially leaving money on the table compared to the optimal mathematical approach.
Anyone know if the support test includes the value of the living space? Like if mother in law has her own bedroom in our house, do we count what that room would rent for as part of our support contribution?
Yes! The fair rental value of the living space definitely counts toward the support test. Calculate what a similar room would rent for in your area - that's considered part of your contribution to her support. Add that to utilities, food, etc. when calculating if you provide more than 50% of her total support.
Based on what you've described, you have a good chance of being able to claim your mother-in-law as a dependent! The key factors working in your favor are that you're providing more than half her support (housing, food, utilities, cell phone) and she's living with you for more than half the year. The main thing to watch out for is the gross income test. Her Social Security payments ($1,450/month) may not all count toward the income limit if she's not required to file a tax return, but you'll need to include the full amount of her 401K distributions ($600/month = $7,200 annually). Since the gross income limit is $4,400 for 2024, those 401K distributions alone would exceed the threshold. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional or using IRS Publication 501 to determine exactly how much of her Social Security income needs to be counted. The rules around Social Security taxation can be complex and depend on her total combined income from all sources. Also keep detailed records of all the support you provide - housing costs, food, utilities, medical expenses, etc. You'll want to be able to demonstrate that your contributions exceed 50% of her total support if the IRS ever asks for documentation.
This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my grandmother who moved in with us last year. She gets Social Security and a small pension. I've been trying to understand how to calculate the "more than half support" test - do you know if there's a specific worksheet or form the IRS provides to help figure this out? I want to make sure I'm including all the right expenses and not missing anything important when I add up what we provide versus what she pays for herself.
Yara Abboud
I've been helping my elderly father with IRS issues for the past year and want to share a few additional strategies that have worked for me. First, try calling the "Tax Professional" line at 866-860-4259 around 2:30pm EST on Tuesdays - even though it's meant for enrolled agents and CPAs, if you explain you're assisting an elderly family member, they'll sometimes connect you to regular customer service with much shorter wait times. Another trick I discovered: when you do get through to an agent, immediately ask them to notate your mom's account that she's elderly and requires assistance. This creates a flag in their system that can help with future calls. The agent can add what's called an "indicator code" that prioritizes elderly taxpayers. Most importantly - and I can't stress this enough - get a copy of your mom's Account Transcript, not just the Return Transcript. The Account Transcript shows all the behind-the-scenes activity on her account and will often reveal exactly why a refund is delayed (offset for old debts, identity verification holds, etc.). You can get it online at irs.gov or by calling 800-908-9946. One last tip: if you're still getting nowhere after multiple calls, file Form 911 (Request for Taxpayer Advocate Service). This escalates the issue to a case worker who has more authority to resolve complex problems. The worst they can do is say no, but often they'll take the case if you've documented multiple unsuccessful attempts to resolve the issue through normal channels. Hang in there - I know how frustrating this process is, but persistence really does pay off! π€
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Freya Thomsen
β’This is incredibly thorough advice - thank you so much! I had no idea about the "indicator code" for elderly taxpayers or the difference between Account vs Return transcripts. That Account Transcript tip could be a game-changer since it shows the actual processing details. I'm curious about Form 911 - approximately how long does the Taxpayer Advocate Service typically take to respond once you file that form? My mom's refund situation has been going on for about 2 months now, and I'm wondering if I should try a few more of these phone strategies first or go straight to filing the 911 if I have documented evidence of multiple failed attempts. Also, when you mention the "Tax Professional" line at 2:30pm on Tuesdays, do they typically ask for credentials to verify you're actually a tax professional, or are they usually okay with the "assisting elderly family member" explanation? I really appreciate everyone in this thread sharing these insider tips - it's like having a support group for people dealing with IRS bureaucracy! π
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MoonlightSonata
I've been dealing with similar IRS issues while helping my elderly mother, and I want to add a strategy that's been incredibly effective for me. Try calling the IRS "Identity Protection Specialized Unit" at 800-908-4490 around 1:45pm EST on Wednesdays. Even if your mom's issue isn't identity theft related, these agents often have access to broader account information and can sometimes resolve refund delays that regular customer service can't touch. Here's what made the biggest difference for me: when you finally get an agent, ask them to do a "manual refund trace" on your mom's account. This is different from the standard "where's my refund" lookup and can reveal if the refund was intercepted for debt offset, sent to an incorrect bank account, or stuck in a manual review queue. Many agents won't volunteer to do this unless you specifically request it. Also, something that saved me multiple callbacks - ask the agent to email you a summary of your conversation and any case reference numbers to your mom's email address on file. Not all agents will do this, but when they do, it creates a paper trail that makes follow-up calls much smoother. One final tip: if your mom receives Social Security, there are special protections under Treasury rules that prevent certain types of refund offsets. Make sure to mention this to any agent you speak with, as they may need to escalate to a specialized unit that handles these cases. The system is absolutely broken, but these approaches have helped me cut through the red tape faster than the standard customer service routes. Stay persistent! πͺ
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Mateo Sanchez
β’This is exactly the kind of specialized information I was hoping to find! The "Identity Protection Specialized Unit" approach is brilliant - I never would have thought to try that line for a regular refund issue. Your point about requesting a "manual refund trace" is particularly helpful because I've been getting the standard "your refund is still processing" response for weeks now. The email summary tip is also great - having documentation would make such a difference for follow-up calls instead of starting from scratch each time. Quick question about the Social Security offset protections - does this apply to all Social Security recipients or only certain types of benefits? My mom receives regular retirement benefits, and her refund has been delayed for over 10 weeks now. I'm wondering if this could be why it's taking so long. Also, when you mention calling at 1:45pm EST on Wednesdays, is that timing based on lower call volume or some other pattern you've noticed? Thank you for sharing such detailed strategies - this thread has been more helpful than hours of searching IRS websites! π
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