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For what it's worth, I've been using different services for extensions vs filing for years. Usually do my extension through the free fillable forms on the IRS website since it's super basic, then use TaxAct for my actual return. Never had an issue. Just make sure wherever you file the extension gives you confirmation that it was accepted by the IRS.
Do you have to create an account with the IRS to use their free fillable forms for the extension? And is it actually free or do they try to upsell you?
You do need to create an account on the Free File Fillable Forms site, but it's pretty straightforward. It's completely free with no upsells - it's the official IRS program. It's basically just the raw forms without any guidance, so the extension form (4868) is simple enough, but some people find the complete tax forms overwhelming without software guidance. For just the extension though, it's a great free option.
Does anyone know if filing an extension affects your refund timing? Like if I'm owed money, will I get it later because I extended?
For what it's worth, I've been a homeowner for 10 years and still do my own taxes with TurboTax. Unless your situation is super complicated (like you're running a business from your new home or did some kind of unusual financing), the homeowner stuff isn't that hard. TurboTax walks you through it all with questions. The main things you'll deal with are: 1) Mortgage interest (from Form 1098 your lender sends) 2) Property taxes (also on Form 1098 usually) 3) If you paid points at closing (should be on Form 1098) If this is your only "complication" to your taxes, I personally wouldn't pay a preparer, but that's just me. I'd rather learn how it works myself.
Thanks for the perspective! Did you find that you were able to itemize deductions right away in your first partial year of homeownership? Or did it take a full year of mortgage interest before it made sense?
In my first partial year, I wasn't able to itemize because I only had about 4 months of mortgage interest which wasn't enough to exceed the standard deduction. I just took the standard deduction that first year. It wasn't until my first full calendar year of homeownership that itemizing made sense. But it's still worth running the numbers both ways in TurboTax (itemized vs standard) to see which gives you the better outcome. The software makes this comparison pretty easy.
Don't forget to check if your state has any first-time homebuyer tax benefits! The federal credits have expired but many states still have them. I bought in Maryland and they had a program that saved me over $1,000 on my state taxes. TurboTax actually missed this when I tried to DIY, so I ended up going to H&R Block and they caught it.
What states still have good homebuyer tax breaks? I'm in Pennsylvania and when I asked my lender they said there weren't any tax breaks, just loan programs for first-time buyers.
California still has some good ones! My friend just bought her first home and got a $10,000 credit through some state program. Definitely worth checking.
Has anyone run into issues with the hobby loss rule with something like D&D sessions? I'm worried the IRS might consider my similar side gig a hobby rather than a business.
The key to avoiding the hobby loss rule is showing that you're running your D&D sessions as a business with the intent to make a profit. Keep good records, have separate business accounts, track all expenses properly, create a business plan, and be professional about how you operate. The IRS generally uses a "3 out of 5" guideline - if you show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they typically consider it a legitimate business. Since OP mentioned they were "hit hard with taxes," it sounds like they're profitable, which helps their case significantly.
That makes sense, thanks! I've been profitable 2 of the last 3 years, so I think I'm on the right track. I do have separate tracking for all my game master income and expenses, but I should probably open a dedicated bank account to make it even clearer.
I went through the S-Corp route with my freelance writing business and can confirm it saved me several thousand in self-employment taxes, BUT - and this is a big but - it only made sense once I was consistently making over $70k. The accounting and filing fees cost me about $1,200/year plus the extra time dealing with payroll. Stick with Schedule C for now, maximize your legitimate deductions, and revisit the business structure question when your income grows. The tax savings need to outweigh the additional costs and complications.
One thing no one has mentioned yet is that your friend should make sure he gets a W-9 from the helper BEFORE paying them. This creates a paper trail proving he tried to do everything correctly. I learned this the hard way when one of my contractors ghosted me after payment and I couldn't complete their 1099 properly. The IRS can actually penalize you for missing or incorrect 1099s even if it wasn't your fault.
What exactly happens if you can't get someone to fill out a W-9? Like if they refuse or you just can't reach them anymore? Are you still supposed to issue the 1099 somehow?
If someone refuses to complete a W-9 or you can't reach them after payment, you're technically supposed to begin backup withholding at a rate of 24% on any future payments to that person. This means holding back that percentage and remitting it to the IRS. For the 1099-NEC, you should still issue it with whatever information you do have. If you're missing their tax ID number, the IRS may send you a B-notice requesting the missing information. The best protection is documenting your attempts to get their information (emails, certified letters, etc.). The IRS understands these situations happen, but they want to see you made a good faith effort to comply.
Be careful about the "20 Factor Test" the IRS uses! Even if someone brings their own tools, they might still be considered an employee if your friend controls WHEN and HOW they do the work. For example, if your friend says "be at this location at 9am, do the lawn this way, and leave at 5pm" - that's looking more like an employee relationship even with their own tools.
Isabella Santos
Another option - if you use a payroll service like Homepay or SurePayroll for your household employees, they can usually generate and file the W3 for you, even retroactively! I did this last year when I realized I had messed up my nanny's taxes. It costs a bit, but they handle all the forms and even deal with the SSA directly. Saved me tons of headache trying to figure out all the forms myself.
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Amina Diallo
ā¢I didn't use a payroll service last year, which is probably why I'm in this mess now! Do you know if these services can help with fixing past mistakes if I wasn't using them before? Or is it too late?
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Isabella Santos
ā¢They can definitely help with past mistakes even if you weren't using them before! Both Homepay and SurePayroll offer "catch up" services where they'll help you file the missing forms from previous years. You'll need to provide them with the payment information for your household employee from 2023, and they can generate the proper W2 and W3 forms. They usually charge a one-time fee for this service rather than making you sign up for ongoing payroll. It's totally worth considering if you want to make sure everything gets done correctly without having to learn all the details yourself.
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Ravi Gupta
One thing to watch out for - make sure you're using the CORRECT year W3 form! I made this mistake and it caused even more headaches. The 2023 W3 form is specifically for wages paid in 2023, not the year you're filing in. Also, if the SSA is asking you to submit these forms now, you might face penalties for late filing. You can request a penalty abatement by attaching a letter explaining why you filed late (reasonable cause). I did this when I messed up my housekeeper's forms and they waived most of the penalties.
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GalacticGuru
ā¢This is really important advice. I accidentally used the wrong year form once and it was a nightmare to fix. Another tip - keep copies of EVERYTHING you send to the SSA. I had to reference my copies when there was a mix-up with my household employee's Social Security earnings.
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