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Instead of trying to find tax deductions through loans, have you considered other legitimate tax reduction strategies? Max out your 401k/IRA contributions, HSA if you qualify, look into tax-loss harvesting with investments, or charitable giving. These are all IRS-approved ways to reduce your taxable income without gimmicks.
Thanks for the suggestions! I do max out my 401k already, but I hadn't thought about an HSA. My employer offers a high-deductible health plan option - would that automatically qualify me for an HSA?
Yes, if your employer offers a qualified high-deductible health plan (HDHP), that would generally make you eligible for an HSA. For 2025, you can contribute up to $4,150 for individual coverage or $8,300 for family coverage, plus an extra $1,000 if you're 55 or older. The beauty of HSAs is the triple tax advantage - tax-deductible contributions, tax-free growth, and tax-free withdrawals for qualified medical expenses. Unlike FSAs, the money rolls over year to year, and you can even invest it for long-term growth. Many people don't realize you can use it as a stealth retirement account by saving receipts for medical expenses now and reimbursing yourself years later.
One legit way to use debt for tax advantages is through a cash-out refinance or home equity loan on your main residence *if* you use the funds for home improvements. Interest on up to $750k of qualified residence debt is deductible.
Isn't there also something about investment property loans being tax-advantaged? My cousin claims he deducts all his mortgage interest on his rental properties.
If your company is giving you ISOs, you might want to ask if they offer a "cashless exercise" program. Some startups will work with specific brokers who can front the exercise cost and immediately sell enough shares to cover your costs + taxes, then give you the remaining shares. This can be a way to exercise without needing cash on hand, though you'll end up with fewer shares overall. The tax treatment isn't as favorable as exercising and holding, but it solves the cash flow problem.
Would a cashless exercise eliminate the possibility of qualifying for long-term capital gains treatment? I'm trying to understand if there's any way to both solve the cash flow problem AND get the better tax treatment.
A standard cashless exercise would indeed eliminate the possibility of getting long-term capital gains treatment because you're selling the shares immediately upon exercise. The entire spread between your strike price and the selling price would be taxed as ordinary income. If you're looking to both solve cash flow issues and potentially get better tax treatment, some companies offer what's called a "partial cashless exercise" where you sell just enough shares to cover your costs and taxes, then hold the rest. Those remaining shares could potentially qualify for long-term capital gains treatment if you hold them long enough.
Has anyone here ever negotiated to get their options as ISOs instead of NSOs? My offer letter says NSOs but I know ISOs are way better tax-wise. Is this something companies are flexible on or is it usually a non-starter?
In my experience working at 3 different startups, the type of option is rarely negotiable. Companies typically have a standard equity plan that applies to everyone at similar levels. NSOs are often used for consultants or non-employees, while employees get ISOs. The tax advantages of ISOs are specifically designed for employees.
One thing to watch out for - make sure you're tracking your crypto purchases and sales correctly. I used to just estimate and got audited. The IRS wants to see detailed records of every transaction with dates, amounts, and cost basis. The penalties can be rough if they think you're underreporting.
Do you know if there are specific forms we need to use for reporting crypto specifically? Or is it just the normal capital gains reporting forms?
For cryptocurrency transactions, you'll use the same forms as other capital assets - primarily Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) and Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses). There's no special crypto-specific form. On Form 8949, you'll need to list each transaction separately with description, date acquired, date sold, proceeds, cost basis, and gain/loss. Then the totals carry over to Schedule D. Make sure to check the correct box at the top of Form 8949 depending on whether the exchange provided you with a 1099-B and whether the basis was reported to the IRS.
Anyone have experience with carrying forward larger crypto losses? I'm underwater by like $20k on one project and wondering how the carryforward process works in practical terms.
I had a $15k loss in 2023 and carried it forward. You'll use Schedule D and it will calculate how much you can use in the current year (up to $3k against ordinary income if you have no capital gains to offset). The remaining amount carries forward automatically and you'll need to keep track of it for future years. Your tax software should handle the calculations, but keep your previous returns handy since you'll need to know how much loss you're carrying forward each year. Mine took about 5 tax years to fully utilize.
Hey, just want to share that I made the exact same mistake last year with my Backdoor Roth! I accidentally contributed $12,000 instead of $6,000 for 2023 (got my accounts mixed up). What I did was call Fidelity right away and asked for a "return of excess contribution." The key thing they told me was that I needed to specify which tax year the contribution was for and acknowledge that I had already done the conversion. They had to remove both the excess contribution AND the earnings on that portion from my Roth IRA. The earnings part was taxable in the year I received it back. They sent me a form to fill out, processed everything within about 2 weeks, and provided documentation for my tax return. I had to report it on my taxes but didn't end up paying any penalties since I fixed it before filing.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to file any special forms when you did your taxes to show that you'd corrected the excess contribution? And did Fidelity calculate the earnings for you or did you have to figure that out yourself?
Yes, I had to report the correction on my tax return. Fidelity calculated the earnings for me (it was only about $215 since I caught it pretty quickly). They sent me a 1099-R form showing the distribution coded as "return of excess contributions" which I reported on my taxes. I also had to file Form 8606 to report the non-deductible IRA contribution and conversion. On that form, I only reported the allowable contribution amount ($6,000), not the full amount I originally put in. My tax software (I used TaxAct) had a specific section for handling excess contribution removals, which made the process pretty straightforward once I had the documents from Fidelity.
I know everyone's suggesting to remove the excess contribution, but there's actually another option worth considering. If you have sufficient earned income, you could treat the excess as an early contribution for the 2025 tax year. The IRS allows you to make IRA contributions for a given tax year up until the tax filing deadline of the following year. So technically, part of your February 2024 contribution could count toward 2024 (up to the limit of $7,000) and the remainder could be designated as an early contribution for the 2025 tax year. You'd need to contact your custodian and have them recharacterize the contributions to the appropriate tax years. This avoids having to take money out of your retirement accounts and might be a cleaner solution if you were planning to max out your 2025 contribution anyway.
This is actually incorrect advice that could cause problems. You cannot pre-contribute to an IRA for a future tax year before January 1st of that year. While you can contribute to the previous year until the tax filing deadline, you cannot contribute to a future year early. The only option here is to remove the excess contribution (plus earnings) or face the 6% penalty that applies each year until the excess is removed.
Oscar O'Neil
One thing to consider about your situation - the fact that payments went directly to your landlord and as gift cards actually makes this more clearly compensation rather than reimbursement. Reimbursements for actual business expenses wouldn't be taxable, but these payments were clearly for your personal living expenses. Make sure you're tracking ALL income on that 1099-NEC. Some non-profits aren't great at accounting and might have missed something. Compare the total on the 1099 ($250+$250+$150 x number of months) to make sure it matches what you actually received in benefits.
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Victoria Brown
ā¢Thanks for pointing that out! I just checked the 1099-NEC amount against my records and you're right - there's a discrepancy. The 1099 shows about $650 less than what I calculated based on the monthly benefits. Should I contact them about this or just report the amount on the form?
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Oscar O'Neil
ā¢You should definitely contact the non-profit about the discrepancy. They may need to issue a corrected 1099-NEC. It's better to address this now than have mismatched information when the IRS compares your return with what the organization reported. If they insist the amount on the 1099-NEC is correct, ask them to explain the difference. Perhaps some payments were classified differently or there was a month when payments weren't made. Get it in writing if possible.
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Sara Hellquiem
I'm not seeing anyone mention this, but you might qualify for the Qualified Business Income deduction (QBI) which could reduce your taxable income by up to 20% of your net profit from this work. It's available to most self-employed people and independent contractors. Since your total compensation wasn't super high based on what you described, this might help offset some of the self-employment tax hit you're facing.
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Charlee Coleman
ā¢Do you know if there's a minimum amount you need to make for the QBI deduction? I only made about $4,000 on a 1099-NEC last year and wondering if it's worth claiming.
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