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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your Traditional IRA didn't generate any earnings during the few days before the conversion processed. If it did (even a small amount), that growth is taxable in 2025 when the conversion happened. For example, if your $6,500 contribution grew to $6,515 by the time the conversion processed in January, that $15 of earnings would be taxable income on your 2025 return. Usually it's minimal for such a short period, but worth checking your statements.
That's a great point I hadn't thought of! I just double checked my statements. There was a tiny bit of growth - looks like about $8.72 in earnings before the conversion went through. So I'll have a very small taxable amount for 2025, but nothing major. Thanks for pointing this out!
Exactly right! The $8.72 will be taxable income on your 2025 return. The key thing is you've got your non-deductible contribution of $6,500 properly documented on your 2024 Form 8606, establishing your basis. Then in 2025, your 1099-R will show the full conversion amount ($6,508.72), but you'll only pay tax on the $8.72 growth portion.
I had LITERALLY the exact same situation happen to me last year. Contributed to Traditional IRA on Dec 29, initiated conversion same day, but it didn't settle in my Roth until January 3. I was freaking out too! My tax guy confirmed what everybody here is saying - report the nondeductible contribution on 2024 Form 8606, then report the conversion on 2025 Form 8606. When you get the 1099-R in January 2026 (for the 2025 tax year), it'll show the distribution from your Traditional IRA. The most important thing is making sure you file Form 8606 for 2024 to establish that the money was after-tax (non-deductible) contributions. That way when you convert in 2025, you're not taxed on it again.
Don't forget about depreciation for bigger purchases! I made the mistake of incorrectly categorizing everything my first year. For items over $2,500, you might want to consider Section 179 deduction or bonus depreciation rather than just expensing them outright. For example, that desk you mentioned could potentially be depreciated over 7 years OR you could use Section 179 to deduct it all upfront. Same with expensive computers or other equipment. Also, keep track of any repairs vs. improvements to your home office space. Repairs can generally be deducted immediately (based on your home office percentage) while improvements might need to be depreciated.
Is there a dollar threshold for when something should be depreciated vs just expensed? Like if my desk was only $300, do I still need to depreciate it or can I just deduct it all at once under supplies/furniture?
There's actually a "de minimis safe harbor election" that lets you expense (rather than depreciate) items that cost less than $2,500 per item or invoice. So for your $300 desk, you could absolutely deduct it all at once instead of depreciating it over several years. Many small business owners don't know about this and end up creating unnecessary complexity by depreciating smaller items. For slightly larger purchases, Section 179 expensing is another great option that lets you deduct the full cost of qualifying equipment in the year you put it into service, rather than depreciating it. The limits are quite generous for small businesses (up to $1,160,000 for 2023).
Did your accountant explain the difference between the regular method and simplified method for home office? The simplified method lets you deduct $5 per square foot (up to 300 sq ft) without tracking actual expenses. Might be easier than tracking all those utility percentages!
Simplified method is WAY easier but usually results in a smaller deduction in my experience. I tracked both methods for two years and regular method gave me about $1,200 more in deductions. Depends on your situation though.
I'm dealing with the exact same issue! I also ignored the penalty back in 2017 (mine was $625 because I had insurance for one month). The CP71H notice just arrived last week. I called the IRS after I got the notice and was told that while they couldn't offset refunds for the health insurance penalty specifically, they can still collect the debt through other means. The agent said they recently started a new initiative to collect on these older penalties before they reach the collection statute expiration date. I ended up just paying mine online through the IRS Direct Pay system. The process was pretty simple and I got a confirmation right away. Figured it was better to just be done with it rather than risk additional interest or further collection actions.
Did they say anything about whether they're going after everyone who didn't pay those penalties? I ignored mine too but haven't received any notices yet.
The agent didn't specifically say they're targeting everyone, but she did mention they're working through batches of unpaid penalties from the ACA mandate years. She said something about starting with larger amounts and more recent years, then working backward. If you haven't gotten a notice yet, you might still receive one in the coming months. She recommended checking your online account at IRS.gov to see if there's any balance showing there, even if you haven't received a physical notice yet.
Has anyone tried calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service about these old health insurance penalties? I've heard they sometimes help with IRS issues when you're facing hardship or can't get resolution through normal channels.
I tried the Taxpayer Advocate Service for a different issue last year. They won't take your case unless you've already tried resolving it through normal IRS channels AND you're facing some kind of immediate financial hardship (like wage garnishment or bank levy). For a simple notice like CP71H, they'd probably just tell you to call the regular IRS number.
Since nobody's mentioned this yet - TRIPLE CHECK that your W-2 is correct before filing! My employer accidentally put the wrong social security number on mine (off by one digit) and it caused a massive headache when I filed. The IRS rejected my return and it took weeks to sort out. Make sure your name, SSN, address, and all the numbers in the boxes match your records. If you had multiple jobs, make sure you have a W-2 from each employer. And if you received corrected W-2s (marked as W-2c) make sure you're using those instead of the originals.
What exactly do we need to check on the W-2? Like which specific boxes should I pay attention to the most?
The most critical things to verify are your personal information (name, SSN, address) since those are used to match your return to IRS records. An error there can cause your entire return to be rejected. As for the financial information, check Box 1 (Wages, tips, other compensation) against your final paystub of the year to make sure it matches. Also verify Box 2 (Federal income tax withheld) since that directly impacts your refund or amount due. If you contributed to a 401(k), check that Box 12 has the correct code and amount for your contributions.
Anyone know if the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool actually works? I filed Jan 30th last year and that stupid tracker was stuck on "processing" for like 6 weeks even though I got my refund direct deposited after just 2 weeks.
It works but it's unreliable. Last year mine said "still processing" for 3 weeks AFTER I already received my refund. The IRS systems don't talk to each other very well. I'd just set up direct deposit and forget about it - the money will show up eventually.
Logan Chiang
Something similar happened to me in 2023. Even without the 1099-MISC, you need to report the income. Here's what I did: 1. I reported all income on Schedule C with the company name and address (found through Google) 2. I didn't have their EIN, so I just noted "business closed" in my tax records 3. I kept all my payment receipts, contracts, and email communications as backup The IRS never questioned it. Remember - THEY know you got paid because the company would have deducted those payments on THEIR taxes, even if they didn't send you the form. Don't risk underreporting!
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Isla Fischer
ā¢But what happens if the amount the company reports paying you (if they filed anything before going bankrupt) doesn't match what you report? Could that trigger an audit?
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Logan Chiang
ā¢That's a good question. If there's a discrepancy, it potentially could raise a flag in the IRS system. However, if you're reporting based on your actual income records (bank deposits, etc.), you're still doing the right thing. If the company reported incorrectly before going bankrupt, that's their mistake, not yours. Just make sure you have documentation of all the income you received - bank statements, invoices, contracts, emails confirming payments. If you're ever questioned, you can show you reported based on your actual earnings. The IRS is generally understanding when you can show you made a good-faith effort to report accurately.
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Miles Hammonds
Has anyone dealt with the state tax implications of this? I'm in California and had a similar issue last year, and the state tax board was actually more picky than the IRS about documentation.
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Ruby Blake
ā¢CA resident here too. The Franchise Tax Board definitely wants documentation, but I found they accepted my own records (invoices + bank statements) when I couldn't get a 1099 from a client who went out of business. I included a brief statement explaining the situation with my filing.
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