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Marilyn Dixon

Filing taxes with TaxAct with crypto transactions: only bought and traded coin for coin with BTC - what do I need to report?

I'm working on my taxes using TaxAct and I'm seriously confused about my crypto situation. I've never actually sold any cryptocurrency for cash/USD. All I've done is buy Bitcoin initially, then used that Bitcoin to trade for other cryptocurrencies (like Ethereum, Solana, etc). TaxAct is telling me that I need to report something at minimum, but I'm not sure what exactly needs to be reported since I haven't cashed anything out to my bank account. I thought trading one coin for another was a taxable event, but now I'm second-guessing myself. Do I really need to pay the extra $55 for their crypto reporting feature just to get all this laid out properly? Or is there a simpler way to handle this since I haven't actually "sold" anything for USD? I'm trying to avoid unnecessary expenses but also don't want to mess up my tax filing.

Yes, trading one cryptocurrency for another is definitely a taxable event according to IRS guidelines. Even though you never converted back to USD, each time you traded Bitcoin for another coin, that's considered a "sale" of your Bitcoin in the eyes of the IRS. When you trade BTC for another coin, you need to determine what the fair market value (in USD) of your Bitcoin was at the moment of the trade. That value becomes your proceeds from the "sale" of Bitcoin. You then compare that to your cost basis (what you originally paid for that Bitcoin) to determine if you had a gain or loss on that transaction. So unfortunately, yes, you do need to report all these transactions. As for whether you need to pay for TaxAct's crypto feature, it depends on how many transactions you have and how well you've kept your records. If you have just a few transactions with good records, you could potentially calculate and report them manually. If you have many transactions, the automated tool might be worth the money to ensure accuracy and save you time.

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TommyKapitz

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Wait, so if I bought $1000 of Bitcoin and then used $500 of it to buy Ethereum when that Bitcoin had grown to be worth $600, I'd owe taxes on that $100 gain? Even though I never saw that money in my bank account? That seems weird.

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Yes, that's exactly right. In your example, you'd have a $100 capital gain that's taxable. The IRS views it as if you sold $500 worth of Bitcoin for cash (realizing the $100 gain), and then used that cash to buy Ethereum in a separate transaction. It does seem counterintuitive when you never saw actual dollars, but cryptocurrencies are treated as property for tax purposes, not as currency. Every exchange from one crypto to another is essentially a barter transaction in the IRS's view, and you're required to calculate the USD value at time of trade to determine your gain/loss.

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Payton Black

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Did it work with all the exchanges? I used both Coinbase and Binance and I'm worried about compatibility. Also, how does it handle situations where you might not have complete records for some older transactions?

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Harold Oh

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I'm kinda skeptical of these crypto tax services. What makes them better than just paying for TaxAct's crypto feature? Is there really that much difference?

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Yes, it works with all major exchanges including Coinbase and Binance. You can either connect your accounts directly or upload CSV files of your transaction history. The system is designed to handle multiple exchanges and consolidate everything into one report. For incomplete records, they have a feature that helps reconstruct missing transactions based on the data you do have. It makes reasonable assumptions about cost basis when exact records aren't available, which is way better than guessing on your own. They also have documentation explaining how they handle those edge cases if you get audited.

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Payton Black

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To answer your original question - yes, you absolutely need to report all crypto-to-crypto trades. BUT if you literally just bought Bitcoin and then immediately traded it for other coins without any significant price movement between purchase and trade, your gains/losses might be minimal or zero. The real question is: how many transactions are we talking about here? If it's just a handful, you could potentially just calculate them manually without paying for the premium feature. Figure out what you paid for the Bitcoin (cost basis) and what it was worth when you traded it for other coins.

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Marilyn Dixon

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Thanks for the response! I probably have about 15-20 transactions total. Not a ton, but enough to be annoying to calculate manually. There were definitely price movements between when I bought the BTC and when I traded it... some trades I made when BTC was way up and others when it had dropped.

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With 15-20 transactions and significant price movements, it's probably worth using either TaxAct's crypto feature or one of the specialized services others have mentioned. Trying to manually calculate 20 transactions with varying cost basis is error-prone and time-consuming. Make sure you also track the cost basis of those other coins you received in the trades, because when/if you eventually sell or trade those, you'll need to know what they were "worth" when you acquired them to calculate future gains/losses. This is where specialized crypto tax software really helps, as it maintains that chain of cost basis calculations.

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Darcy Moore

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Dumb question maybe, but do we still need to report crypto if we're at a loss overall? I'm down like 40% from what I put in lol

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Dana Doyle

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Yes, you should still report it. The silver lining is that those losses can offset other capital gains or up to $3,000 of ordinary income. So reporting your crypto losses could actually reduce your overall tax bill!

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