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Yuki Yamamoto

Feeling trapped by cryptocurrency tax complexity - the 8949 form is keeping me from selling

I'm probably in a simpler situation than most crypto investors, but as someone who just casually bought crypto as a passive investment, I'm finding the tax complexity is the main thing stopping me from selling anything. I bought my crypto on Coinbase and have moved coins between Coinbase and my Ledger hardware wallet several times over the years. Because of this, Coinbase doesn't automatically calculate my cost basis anymore, and I've paid various transfer fees along the way - so it's not as simple as just adding up what I originally invested in USD. From what I understand, the IRS wants every single purchase listed as a separate line item on the 8949 form, not just the total amounts, right? Also, if the total value exceeds $15,000 USD, don't I now have to complete IRS form 8300 as well? But how would this work when transferring from my Ledger back to the exchange? Am I responsible for filling that out and submitting it, or does Coinbase handle the reporting about me? The whole thing just feels overwhelming, and it's literally keeping me from selling even though I'd like to take some profits.

Carmen Ruiz

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The cryptocurrency tax situation isn't as scary as it seems once you break it down! You're right that Form 8949 requires listing transactions, but there are tools that can help with this. For your situation with transfers between Coinbase and your Ledger, these aren't actually taxable events - just moving your own crypto between your own wallets. The taxable events are when you buy, sell, trade for other crypto, or use crypto to purchase something. Regarding Form 8300, that's actually for reporting cash transactions over $10,000, not cryptocurrency transactions. You don't need to worry about Form 8300 for crypto transfers. What you're thinking of might be reporting requirements for exchanges like Coinbase, who may issue you a 1099-K if you have a high volume of transactions. For calculating your cost basis, consider using crypto tax software like CoinTracker, Koinly, or TaxBit. These can import your Coinbase history and any wallet addresses to calculate everything for you, then generate the forms you need for your taxes.

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Thanks for the breakdown! So if I understand correctly, I don't need to report just moving crypto between my Coinbase account and my hardware wallet? What about if there were fees paid to do those transfers? Are those fees deductible or factored into cost basis somehow?

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Carmen Ruiz

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You're exactly right - moving between your own wallets isn't a taxable event, so no reporting needed for those transfers specifically. Transaction fees for transfers between your own wallets technically can be added to your cost basis when you eventually sell. For example, if you bought Bitcoin for $10,000 and paid $50 in fees to move it to your Ledger, your cost basis could be $10,050. However, tracking these can be complex, and the tax benefit may be minimal unless you're moving large amounts frequently.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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QuantumQuest

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Did it handle gas fees correctly? I'm using a different platform and it keeps counting transfers between my own wallets as taxable events and it's driving me nuts trying to fix hundreds of transactions manually.

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How accurate was it with the cost basis? I've tried some other tools and they always seem to get things wrong, especially with older transactions from 2019-2020.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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It handled gas fees really well - it added them to the cost basis of the assets. So all those ETH network fees actually reduced my taxable gains a bit when I eventually sold. For cost basis accuracy, it was spot on even with my older transactions from 2018. The nice thing is it shows you all the calculations so you can verify things. The few times something looked off (usually with some obscure tokens), I could manually adjust it. It was way more accurate than the other two platforms I tried before.

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Mei Zhang

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Liam McGuire

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Amara Eze

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This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS agents I've spoken with know absolutely nothing about crypto and give contradictory information. No way they're giving definitive guidance on wallet transfers and cost basis calculations.

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Mei Zhang

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Amara Eze

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you've been holding for over a year, you qualify for long-term capital gains rates which are MUCH lower than short-term. Depending on your income bracket, you might pay as little as 0% or 15% instead of your normal income tax rate. Also, if you sell at a loss, you can deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income per year and carry forward any additional losses to future tax years. Don't let the 8949 form complexity keep you from making sound financial decisions! Just use good software to track everything.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Thanks for pointing this out! Actually a lot of my holdings would qualify for long-term capital gains rates since I've held most for 2+ years. I didn't realize the rate could be as low as 0-15% depending on income bracket. Is there a specific income threshold for each rate?

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For 2025 tax year, long-term capital gains rates work like this: 0% rate applies if your taxable income is under $47,025 for single filers or $94,050 for married filing jointly. The 15% rate applies if your income is above that but below $518,900 for single or $583,750 for married filing jointly. Above those upper thresholds, it's 20%. These rates are much better than short-term gains, which are taxed as ordinary income and can go up to 37% depending on your tax bracket. Definitely worth considering when deciding when to sell!

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NeonNomad

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Just want to warn people that even if wallet-to-wallet transfers aren't taxable, you NEED to keep immaculate records of them. If you get audited and can't prove which transfers were between your own wallets, the IRS might treat them all as sales. I learned this the hard way. Document everything, keep screenshots of transfers, save your wallet addresses, and use a good tracking system. Better to have too much documentation than not enough.

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How do you recommend documenting wallet ownership? I have like 5 different wallets across different platforms and hardware devices.

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