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Another thing to consider: If you file separately, you'll lose several other tax benefits besides just the premium tax credit situation. You won't be able to claim: - Student loan interest deduction - Tuition and fees deduction - EIC in most cases - Child and dependent care credit - Some education credits Plus the standard deduction as a couple filing jointly is exactly 2x the single amount ($29,200 vs $14,600 for 2025), so there's no penalty there, but tax brackets for MFS aren't as favorable as MFJ. The $1,950 hit is painful but it's almost certainly your best option.
Thank you, I hadn't even thought about all those other tax benefits that would be affected. We do have some student loan interest and education credits that would be impacted. Looks like filing jointly and taking the premium tax credit hit is even more clearly the right move than I initially thought.
Happy to help! Yeah, the MFS status really limits a lot of tax benefits, which is why it's rarely the optimal choice unless there are very specific circumstances. The premium tax credit "marriage penalty" is frustrating, but thankfully it's just a one-time adjustment you're dealing with. Next year you'll be able to plan your insurance coverage for the full year as a married couple and avoid this issue completely.
One more thought - have you considered if either of you could increase retirement contributions before the end of the year to lower your MAGI? If you're close to a threshold for the premium tax credit, sometimes putting an extra $1-2k into a traditional IRA or 401k can drop you into a lower income tier and reduce the amount you have to repay.
This is really smart. I did this exact thing last year. Was going to owe $2,400 in premium tax credits after getting married, but maxed out my HSA ($3,850) and put another $2,000 in my traditional IRA. Dropped our MAGI just enough to reduce the repayment to only $800. Definitely worth looking into!
I hadn't thought about this angle! We do have some room to make additional retirement contributions. I'll need to check exactly how close we are to the next MAGI threshold for the premium tax credits. Even if it just reduces the amount a bit, that's still a win since we'd be putting money into our retirement rather than just paying it to the IRS. Thanks for the suggestion!
I think everyone's missing something important here. Education expenses might be better deducted as business expenses on Schedule C rather than as work-related education deductions. If your wife's counseling practice is a legitimate business (which it sounds like it is), the doctoral program costs could be deductible as ordinary and necessary business expenses. Same goes for your accounting degree and the carwash business. The key is proper documentation showing how these educational expenses are ordinary and necessary for your CURRENT businesses. Keep detailed records of how specific courses directly relate to skills needed in your existing businesses. This approach has worked better for me than trying to use the education deductions, which have more limitations since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
Can you explain more about how to document this? Like what kind of proof would you need to show the IRS that your education is "ordinary and necessary" for your business? I'm taking some digital marketing courses and want to deduct them for my Etsy shop.
Documentation is crucial. I keep a business education folder with: course descriptions/syllabi highlighting specific skills taught, a written explanation connecting each course to specific aspects of my current business operations, evidence that these skills are industry standards (like professional association recommendations), and a log tracking how I've implemented these skills in my business. For your digital marketing courses and Etsy shop, save the course descriptions, then create a document explaining how each marketing technique directly applies to growing your existing Etsy business. Track your marketing metrics before and after implementing what you learn to show business purpose. If similar businesses commonly use these marketing techniques, note that as evidence that the education is "ordinary" in your field.
Has anyone mentioned the dollar limits here? Education expenses can add up FAST. My husband & I got hit with AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) one year because our deductions were too high. Make sure you're looking at the big picture with all your deductions combined! Also something to consider - would these education expenses qualify for any tax CREDITS instead of deductions? Credits are usually worth more. Look into Lifetime Learning Credit if you haven't already.
That's a really good point about credits vs deductions! I think business expense deductions don't have the same caps as education credits though? At least that was my understanding. Can you take BOTH the business education deduction AND education credits for the same expenses?
Another option worth exploring is a mega backdoor Roth if your employer plan allows after-tax (not Roth) contributions and in-service distributions or in-plan Roth conversions. The limits are much higher than regular backdoor Roth - you could potentially put away $40k+ extra beyond your regular 401k limit. Not all plans offer this though, so check with your HR or benefits department. The key words to ask about are "after-tax contributions" (different from Roth) and either "in-plan Roth conversions" or "in-service distributions.
Would I have to pay taxes on the conversion from after-tax to Roth though? I'm confused about how this is different from just doing a backdoor Roth IRA.
You only pay taxes on the growth between the time you make the after-tax contribution and when you convert it to Roth. If you convert frequently (some plans even allow automatic conversions), this tax amount is minimal. The main difference from a backdoor Roth IRA is the amount you can contribute. A backdoor Roth IRA is limited to $7,000 per year (2025 limit for those under 50). With the mega backdoor Roth, you could potentially contribute up to around $43,500 more (the exact amount depends on your plan and the total annual 401k limit of $70,000 for 2025 minus your regular contributions and employer match).
Something nobody has mentioned - simple taxable brokerage account might actually be better in some cases? I use one alongside my 401k. The benefits: no contribution limits, complete flexibility to withdraw anytime without penalties, and long-term capital gains tax rates (which are lower than ordinary income rates for most people). Plus you can tax-loss harvest during market downturns, which isn't possible in retirement accounts. Just buy tax-efficient ETFs that don't distribute much in dividends and hold long-term.
Great point about the flexibility! But don't you lose a lot to taxes on dividends and capital gains compared to Roth growth that's completely tax-free?
Anyone try TaxAct? They have HSA forms and actually do efile for real. I've used them for years with no problems and they're cheaper than TurboTax. Just a suggestion for next year.
Thanks for the recommendation! I've heard good things about TaxAct from a coworker too. Did you find their interface easy to use? I'm not super tax-savvy and need something that explains things clearly.
Their interface is pretty straightforward and they explain tax concepts in plain English. They use a question-based approach that helps catch things like HSA contributions without you needing to know which specific forms are required. The help sections are quite clear with examples, and if you get stuck, they have decent customer support through chat. For someone who isn't tax-savvy, they offer good guidance without overwhelming you with jargon. Their review system also catches common errors before you file.
I had a simular issue with that same software!!! They also missed my student loan interest deduction completely. I ended up disputing the charge with my credit card company and got a full refund. Then I used FreeTaxUSA which was actually free for federal filing and only $15 for state. They had all the right forms including 8889 for HSA stuff.
Levi Parker
Something else to consider - Robinhood does let you download transaction history as CSV through the app or website, which isn't the same as their tax documents but can be helpful supplemental info. Go to Account ā Statements & History ā Export, and you can select date ranges to download transaction data. While this doesn't have all the tax lot information that appears on the 1099, it can help you verify things if needed. Also, if you're using Robinhood for cryptocurrency, be aware their tax reporting for crypto is still pretty basic. You might want additional tracking software specifically for crypto transactions.
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Nathan Dell
ā¢That's a good point about the transaction history. Do you know if the CSV export includes cost basis information? And regarding crypto, have you found any good solutions for tracking those transactions from Robinhood?
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Levi Parker
ā¢The CSV export does include the purchase price for stocks and options, which gives you the cost basis information. However, it doesn't automatically calculate adjusted basis for wash sales - you'd need to do that yourself or use tax software. For crypto tracking from Robinhood, I've found CoinTracker works pretty well. You can't directly connect it to Robinhood automatically, but you can import the transaction CSV from Robinhood into CoinTracker. It takes a bit of manual work upfront, but then gives you much better crypto tax reporting than what Robinhood provides. Koinly is another option some friends have used successfully with Robinhood exports.
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Libby Hassan
Also worth noting that Robinhood's tax documents are usually available pretty early in tax season (late January/early February in my experience), which is nice compared to some other brokers that make you wait until mid-March. The PDF they provide breaks down your transactions into the categories that match Form 8949 (short-term, long-term, etc.), which makes manual entry easier if you go that route. Each section is clearly labeled to correspond with the right part of Form 8949.
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Hunter Hampton
ā¢Not my experience at all. Last year, Robinhood sent corrected 1099s THREE TIMES, with the final one coming in early April. Totally messed up my filing timeline. Apparently it's pretty common with them if you have wash sales or more complex situations.
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