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I've used both TurboTax Business and TaxAct for our 5-member LLC with rental properties. Here's my honest take: TurboTax is more hand-holdy and has better integrated guidance, but it's expensive. TaxAct Business gets the job done for much less, but you'll need to be more confident in what you're doing. One thing to consider: how complex is your depreciation situation? If you've got multiple properties with different acquisition dates and improvement projects, TurboTax handles this much more elegantly. Also, TaxAct's partnership K-1 generation was a bit clunky in my experience. But overall it saved us about $250 compared to TurboTax.
How does either handle QBI deductions from the rental properties? That's been a confusing part for me when deciding which software to use.
TurboTax handles QBI deductions pretty seamlessly. When you enter your rental information on Form 8825, it automatically determines if your rental activities qualify as a trade or business for QBI purposes. It asks specific questions about time spent, services provided, and other factors to make the determination. TaxAct also calculates QBI but the interface isn't as clear. You have to manually indicate whether the rental activity qualifies as a business under Section 199A, which requires you to understand the requirements yourself. The software doesn't guide you through that determination as thoroughly as TurboTax does.
Don't forget about Drake Tax Software! It's what many professional preparers use and costs around $650 for everything. Not the prettiest interface but super powerful for partnerships.
That price is a bit steep for me since this is my first attempt at doing it myself. I was hoping to keep software costs under $500. Is Drake significantly better than TurboTax for someone who's not a professional preparer?
Economics PhD student here. Another reason for the flat corporate rate that hasn't been mentioned is capital mobility. Corporations can shift profits between countries much more easily than individuals can relocate. A highly graduated corporate tax would incentivize even more profit-shifting to lower-tax jurisdictions. Most countries use relatively flat corporate rates with various deductions/credits rather than graduated rates precisely for this reason. It's part of why there's been a global push for minimum corporate tax rates internationally - to prevent a "race to the bottom" where countries keep cutting corporate rates to attract business.
Interesting point about international competition. Do other major economies like the EU, Japan, etc. also use flat corporate rates? Or are there any examples of major economies successfully using graduated corporate rates?
Yes, almost all major economies use flat corporate rates. The UK, Germany, France, Japan, Canada - all flat rates with various deductions and credits. China has a flat 25% standard rate with reductions for certain industries or regions. There are very few examples of graduated corporate rates in major economies. South Korea has a modestly graduated system with three brackets (10%, 20%, 22%), and the US actually had a slightly graduated system before the 2017 tax reform with brackets of 15%, 25%, 34%, and 35%, though with income phaseouts that effectively flattened it for many corporations. The trend globally has been toward flatter systems with targeted incentives rather than graduated rates.
This is a perfect example of how the system is rigged in favor of corporations! Individuals get stuck with a progressive system where we pay more as we earn more, but corporations just get a flat rate no matter how many billions they make. And then they have armies of accountants finding loopholes to pay even less! Amazon paid $0 in federal taxes some years despite billions in profits! How is that fair when I'm paying 22% of my modest income? The whole "double taxation" argument is BS too since many corporate profits never get distributed to shareholders but instead go to stock buybacks and executive bonuses.
Your facts about Amazon aren't quite accurate. While they did pay little federal income tax in some years (2017-2018 notably), that was because they used legal deductions for R&D, stock-based compensation, and carried-forward losses from earlier years when they weren't profitable. They've since paid billions in taxes. The tax code incentivizes certain behaviors like R&D and investment. That's by design, not cheating. And corporate profits that go to executive compensation get taxed as personal income at graduated rates. Stock buybacks now have an excise tax specifically to address that issue.
Former IRS employee here. Your instincts are correct. The "limited commerce" argument is very thin if: 1) They had revenue growth 2) Never suspended operations 3) Were already remote-capable The ERC was designed for businesses that were negatively impacted by COVID, not those that thrived. Many of these ERC companies use extremely aggressive interpretations that don't align with the intent of the law or IRS guidance. Your client should understand that THEY bear the risk, not the ERC company. The IRS has specifically identified questionable ERC claims as an enforcement priority.
What kind of penalties are we talking about if someone gets audited and the IRS rejects their claim? Is it just paying back the money or are there additional fines?
If the IRS determines an ERC claim was improper, they can require repayment of the full credit amount plus interest (which is currently at a high rate). In cases where they determine the claim was recklessly or intentionally improper, they can also assess accuracy-related penalties of 20% or even fraud penalties of 75% of the underpayment. There's also the cost of defending an audit, potential damage to banking relationships if a large repayment is suddenly required, and the business disruption of dealing with an extended examination.
My brother owns a retail shop and got suckered into one of these ERC claims by a company making big promises. They claimed his business qualified because of "supply chain disruptions" even though his revenue was up in 2020/2021. He got a huge refund check ($280k), and the ERC company took their 23% cut right away. Six months later, he got selected for audit and now has to pay it ALL back plus interest. The ERC company is nowhere to be found now that there's a problem. Just warn your client that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. These companies get their fee regardless of whether the claim holds up under audit.
Thanks for sharing this - this is exactly what I'm worried about. I keep trying to explain the risks to my client but he only sees the dollar signs and not the potential consequences. Did your brother's business have any specific government orders that restricted their operations, or was it purely the "supply chain" angle that the ERC company used?
He had to close for about 3 weeks in early 2020 like most retail, but reopened with masks/distancing requirements. The ERC company focused mainly on "supply chain disruptions" claiming his inability to get some inventory items qualified as a partial suspension. The IRS disagreed completely. Their position was that since his overall revenue increased and he found alternative products to sell, he clearly wasn't significantly impacted in a way that qualified. The business had its best year ever during COVID because people were shopping locally instead of at malls.
A factor nobody's mentioned yet: if you file separately, you're both responsible only for your own tax returns. If you file jointly, you're both liable for the entire thing. This might matter if you're concerned about audit risk or if there are any questionable deductions on your spouse's side. In my case, my ex-husband had some "creative" business deductions, and I wish I had filed separately! Not saying that's your situation, but worth considering the liability angle.
Isn't there something called "innocent spouse relief" that protects you in situations like that? I thought the IRS had procedures for when one spouse didn't know about the other's tax shenanigans?
Yes, there is innocent spouse relief, but it can be extremely difficult to qualify for and prove. You have to demonstrate that you had no reason to know about the underreporting or false deductions, which is a high bar to clear especially for married couples who live together. The process is lengthy and stressful, often requiring professional help. In my experience, it's much easier to just file separately from the start if you have ANY concerns about your spouse's tax situation. Prevention is better than trying to fix things after the fact with the IRS.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you're on income-based student loan repayment plans, filing separately can sometimes dramatically lower your monthly payments because they only count your income and not your spouse's. It saved me about $300/month on my payments even though we paid slightly more in taxes.
Wow this is really good to know! I'm on IBR for my loans and didn't even think about how filing status would affect that. Does this work for all income-based repayment plans?
Malik Thomas
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if both software programs are using the same tax year rules! This happened to me once where one program somehow wasn't fully updated with the latest tax law changes, and it caused a similar discrepancy. Also, sometimes the difference can be due to how each software rounds certain calculations or handles certain credits in different orders of operations. It's annoying but can cause hundreds in differences.
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QuantumQuasar
ā¢That's a really good point I hadn't considered. How would I check if my software is using the most current tax rules? Is there some version number or update date I should look for?
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Malik Thomas
ā¢Most tax software will show the tax year version somewhere in the settings or about section. Look for something that says "Tax Year 2025" or "Updated for 2025 tax law changes." Some will even show the specific update date. If your software offers a way to view the actual IRS instructions they're using for calculations, that can help too. The most reliable way though is to check the preview of Schedule 8812 from both software programs - they should both reference the same tax year and use identical calculation methods for the Child Tax Credit.
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Isabella Oliveira
Random thought but have you tried entering your info in the IRS's free calculator on their website? It's not as thorough as full tax software but it can give you a general idea of what your refund should be. Might help you triangulate which software is closer to correct.
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Ravi Kapoor
ā¢The IRS calculator is decent but it doesn't handle some of the more complex situations. I'd also suggest running the numbers quickly through a third software like Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) which is completely free regardless of income. Having a third calculation might help show which of your current ones is more likely correct.
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